Here we go again-Ukraine once again

[Jimbuna]

We will do everything so that "conflict" in Ukraine ends as soon as possible - Putin. VIDEO

Dictator Putin said that Russia is ready to do everything to end the war on the territory of Ukraine as soon as possible.

He said this during a meeting with Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi, Censor.NET reports with reference to RIA Novosti.

Dictator Putin said that Russia is ready to do everything to end the war on the territory of Ukraine as soon as possible.

He said this during a meeting with Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi, Censor.NET reports with reference to RIA Novosti.

"I know your position regarding the conflict in Ukraine, your concerns, which you constantly express. We will do everything to ensure that this all ends as soon as possible. Unfortunately, the other side, the leadership of Ukraine, has announced its refusal of the negotiation process. It has stated that it wants to achieve their goals by military means, on the battlefield, as they say," said the president of the occupying country. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3367634

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Jimbuna

Short answer to the question "will the world help to deliver a swift blow" - No. Not in the forseeable future.

Biden does not want images of handed-over Abrams tanks firing on Russian tanks, it seems, not before the Novembre elections at least. - Bubble-Olaf still is scared to death by Russian threats and will to deliver tanks either, although German tanks possibly would signal other European nations maybe to then also deliver tanks. The self-claimed military lead role by the Germans? Dont make me laugh again. "Who wants leadership from me, will get leadership" (original quote Scholz)...? Im still gasping for air from my last laughing attack.

Germany instead delivers 50 armored mini-trucks, and two more MARS-II systems.

And has now given green light to allow Ukraine to buy 18 new artillery systems (RCH-155), claimed to be superior than the PZH-2000 and having greater range of 55km with according ammunition. You ask what the foulplay in that is? Well, those systems will not be available before 2025, and production of them has not even started. The first live fire demonstration is less than a year ago. The system does so far not exist in numbers.

Three years.

"German will give Ukraine all support ever needed." (original quote German government.)

"Germany is the most signficant weapon distributor to Ukraine , second only to the US." (original quote Scholz). - Truth is it ranks place 16.

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Media report today experts' expectations that the gas prices will never fall to former levels again, but after any future "normalization" - that sooner or later will set in - still will stay at - at least - twice as high levels than before the crisis, for all time to come. Possibly more.

German government refuses to react to that by changing its suicidal energy transformation policy - although that stupid ideology-driven project is the main reason behind our dependency from Russian gas, and for our current energy worries. As always, the Germans say: ideology trumps reality.

Long before climate and warmth would have maybe taken us out, Germany will have already quit the table for its economic self-destruction and ideological anti-industrial fanatism. We deserve no pity - only loud laughter.

[Jimbuna]

^ Ridiculous isn't it.

[Catfish]

Analysis from today:

[mapuc]

A comment to post #6422

For me it means they will withdraw from parts of Ukraine-Not from Crimea and Donbas though.

Markus

[Jimbuna]

In occupied Berdiansk, "deputy mayor" Boyko and his wife, who organized "referendum", were eliminated - Russian media. PHOTOS

In Berdiansk, the traitor and helper of the occupiers Oleh Boyko and his wife were eliminated.

As Censor.NET informs, this was reported by Russian media.

It is noted that today, September 16, Oleh Boyko, the so-called "deputy head of the Berdyansk Regional Council for Housing and Communal Affairs" was killed in the Koloniya microdistrict in Berdyansk near his own garage. It is reported that his wife Ludmila Boyko, who headed the "city territorial election commission" for the pseudo-referendum, was liquidated along with him. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3367579

[mapuc]

The three logical explanations for what is happening in Kherson centre.
Staged videos for propaganda
UA Partisans or SOF engaging Russian forces
Infighting between Russian soldiers

https://twitter.com/WarMonitor3/stat...18554753523718

Markus

[Dargo]

Originally Posted by mapuc

https://twitter.com/WarMonitor3/stat...18554753523718

Markus

Or drunk and shooting into...

This would not be the first time this has happened in Kherson; myself and @MichaelDWeiss broke the story of a deadly firefight between members of the FSB and the 8th Artillery Regiment of the Black Sea Fleet that left 3 soldiers dead...
https://twitter.com/JimmySecUK/statu...21380829515776

And you must consider all those ethnic difference in this army real Russians consider themselves Übermensch over the other republics.

[mapuc]

I truly hope it is my imagination that are running wild.

Throughout the days I get information here and there.

Like

"Dictator Putin said that Russia is ready to do everything to end the war on the territory of Ukraine as soon as possible."

" Biden has warned Putin"

"Russia is dismissive when question about nukes comes up"

Are we closer to the use of Russian nuke(s) in Ukraine ?

Please tell me that I'm wrong.

Markus

[Dargo]

Originally Posted by mapuc

I truly hope it is my imagination that are running wild.

Throughout the days I get information here and there.

Like

"Dictator Putin said that Russia is ready to do everything to end the war on the territory of Ukraine as soon as possible."

" Biden has warned Putin"

"Russia is dismissive when question about nukes comes up"

Are we closer to the use of Russian nuke(s) in Ukraine ?

Please tell me that I'm wrong.

Markus

I think they are more likely to go for total mobilization and officially transform the "special military operation" into a war.

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Jimbuna

^ Ridiculous isn't it.

Repulsive. Annoying. Disgusting. Infuriating. They make me wanting to vomit.

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Dargo

I think they are more likely to go for total mobilization and officially transform the "special military operation" into a war.

That hopefully will tense inner conflicts of civil society and its relation to the poltical "elite" beyond explosion point. Lets hope they do. But Russian society has a centuries-long history of being submissive and servile and obedient, sooo.. certain it is not.

[mapuc]

Originally Posted by Dargo

I think they are more likely to go for total mobilization and officially transform the "special military operation" into a war.

Within a week or two we will know. if Russia has

1. Declared war on Ukraine and started general mobilisation
2. Have instead withdrawn from some part of Ukraine and only securing Donbas and Crimea
3. Used nukes.

Markus

[Dargo]

Originally Posted by Skybird

That hopefully will tense inner conflicts of civil society and its relation to the poltical "elite" beyond explosion point. Lets hope they do. But Russian society has a centuries-long history of being submissive and servile and obedient, sooo.. certain it is not.

There is no gigantic shift in the social debate, no call to lay down arms, or anything like that. On the contrary, when the 'ordinary Russian' on the street is asked about the situation in Ukraine. The tenor there is: 'It may be that there are losses, but that may also be part of a strategy we don't know about.' Of course, you have to take into account that those people do not dare to criticize openly. There are many Russians who no longer talk about politics, even with their own friends and family. The fruits of Putin's politics of fear.

[Dargo]

Originally Posted by mapuc

Within a week or two we will know. if Russia has

1. Declared war on Ukraine and started general mobilisation
2. Have instead withdrawn from some part of Ukraine and only securing Donbas and Crimea
3. Used nukes.

Markus

I see signs of option 2. but it could also be rotation of units, whoever knows that has a crystal ball. The only danger lies in submitting to the fear of the use of nuclear weapons that is the only power of nuclear weapons.