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Pablo · 01-21-21, 11:39 PM

Hi!

I am playing with the Epic Mod 2.27 (Main Mod), and my US sub is tracking an Oscar-class SSGN at 95% solution. When I am abeam of the Oscar, it shows the Oscar has the following sensor values:

Active 10
Passive -4
Towed -2

When I move into the Oscar's baffles, it shows

Active -50
Passive -50
Towed -50

Shouldn't it be something like this when I am in the baffles of a sub with a towed array?

Active -50
Passive -50
Towed -2

Thanks!

steel shark · 01-22-21, 09:18 AM

i generally spend my time modding games ill look at the values for you

so "Pablo" if they dont get back to you message me k

Steel Shark

steel shark · 01-22-21, 09:29 AM

k so my new version of EM 2.27.b is up

Epic mod ver 2.27 Tweaked files Ver 7.b-r ( VIIB-R )

this is exactly the same but the "campaign map speed modifiers" have been reset.

"the R stands for restored"

its were i all ways place em

Downloads / Coldwaters / Gameplay section

ill make a + version when i can

Epic mod ver 2.27 Tweaked files Ver 7.b+ ( VIIB+ )

this one ill make all the missions in the Campaign Four times longer so kinda a mini free roam Campaign Version for epic mod

so if a mission is 48 hours it would now be 192 hours so 8 days for that mission

given stores & Decoy Expenditure

and maybe damage thats probably extra time enough id say

-------------------------------------------------------------------

expanded campaign ideas would be

in the later part of the war the navy dose :

1.) more land strikes

2.) dedicated hunt missions for ssn , ssbn , ssgn vessels

3.) assault missions so softening up set targets

4.) patrol missions in designated areas to limit aid getting in

5.) mine laying

Steel Shark

nitro Skirata · 01-27-21, 09:37 AM

Hey,

i tried playing with the Epic mod and tweaks VIIB-R. i am unable to go anywhere fast on the map with this combinations, making it impossible to intercept enemys on the campaign map. here is a video of a LA class on the campaign map:

greetings,

nitro Skirata

steel shark · 01-27-21, 10:29 AM

the original setting are used on Ver 7.b-r hence i made (VIIB-r) in the first place to restore em those setting are :

MapTimeCompression=3600 all

so all Campaigns are at same Time Compression

Hear are the Original Value,s for Epic Mod 2.27 Campaign,s MapSpeedModifier,s

campaign001 - NATO (1968) North Atlantic - MapSpeedModifier=2

campaign002 - NATO (1984) North Atlantic - MapSpeedModifier=2

campaign003 - NATO (2002) Global Map-MapSpeedModifier=1

campaign004 - NATO (2002) Global Map Surface Fleet - MapSpeedModifier=1

campaign005 - Soviet Union (1968) North Atlantic - MapSpeedModifier=2

campaign006 - Soviet Union (1968) Global Map - MapSpeedModifier=1

campaign007 - Soviet Union (1984) North Atlantic - MapSpeedModifier=2

campaign008 - Soviet Union (1984) Global Map - Murmansk - MapSpeedModifier=1

campaign009 - Soviet Union (1984) Global Map - Kamchatka - MapSpeedModifier=1

campaign010 - Soviet Union (1984) Surface Fleet - MapSpeedModifier=2

campaign011 - Soviet Union (1984) Global Map Surface Fleet - MapSpeedModifier=1

campaign012 - Russia (2002) Murmansk - MapSpeedModifier=1

campaign013 - Russia (2002) Kamchatka - MapSpeedModifier=1

campaign014 - NATO (2000) South China Sea - MapSpeedModifier=2

So what im saying is you are playing the mod at the map speed that was intended by the makers

Surface Ships are faster then subs so you need to predict were you want to Intercept them on the map and set your Vessels Course Accordingly

Also remember that both mouse buttons do Vessel speed so :

LEFT MOUSE Button is faster +

RIGHT MOUSE Button is slower -

but you all ready knew that ive put it in hear for other that might not know

Hope this helps

Steel Shark

nitro Skirata · 01-27-21, 10:37 AM

So, is the slowing of the player submarine a feature of your tweaks?

because those values do match up, but the sub still only crawles, when the tweaks are enbled (player sub speed with tewks is about one fouth of the one for straight Epic mod).

In the video i posted, i alternated between left and right mouse for movement.

also one can see, that merchants are able to outrun a submarine travelling at 35kts

greetings,
nitroSkirata

steel shark · 01-27-21, 10:44 AM

yer rates

your speed may affect your depth too im a bit rusty on campaign stuff

so for example :

left click = 30-35kts, 900ft
right click = 25kts, 300-400 ft
stopped = 5 kts, 50-150 ft

Steel Shark

nitro Skirata · 01-27-21, 10:49 AM

Ok, figured out what was going on

the reduction in starting bells, was not only influencing the combat entry speed, but also the campaign movement speed.

greetings,
nitroSkirata

steel shark · 01-27-21, 10:58 AM

sounds right id forgot about that id also forgot about the depth thing can be use by setting the default x3 x3 settings so

x3 telegraph

x3 starting depths

might need a re do then like i said a bit back this is why ive resisted doing campaign changes till Ver 7

so :

PlayerStartTelegraphs=1,2,6

then make sure not to be moving on intercept

cheers for bringing that back to my memory "nitro Skirata"

ive been doing coding and models so much also audio and graphics ive forgot stuff about campaigns

got a lot on atm also

p.s cheers for using the mod

Real subs dont charge around tho at flank very often kinda defeats the point of being silent hence my changes but yer with mission time limits in mind yer

also you need to be able to go flank for when you need to

Steel Shark

steel shark · 01-27-21, 11:12 AM

ill change it then re upload it after testing

ill rename it too so its different from the other version and remove the B-r version to be safe also

Steel Shark

steel shark · 01-27-21, 01:08 PM

my other main new features im still testing

so for now use this version

"5.6 - Epic mod ver 2.27 tweaks Ver 7.c VIIC"

ill release a 5.6 - Epic mod ver 2.27 tweaks Ver 7.d VIID
with new features when i can

or it can be in epic mod 2.28 or the other mod when that comes out

ANY one that used my older 5.6 - Epic mod ver 2.27 tweaks Ver 7.b-r VIIB-R

use this instead

5.6 - Epic mod ver 2.27 tweaks Ver 7.c VIIC

its were it usually is Downloads / coldwaters / gameplay

Stay safe all

Steel Shark

Hobomaniac · 02-01-21, 03:38 PM

Hello everyone,
After installing the Epic Mod 2.27, I noticed something weird :
enabling english text and voiceovers in the in-game settings modifies the "worldscale" and speedmultiplier values!

It changes from....
worldscale=0
speedmultiplier=10

to this.....
worldscale=1
speedmultiplier=11

Does it mean the russians play at 1/1 distance scale and 1.0 speed, and the english people play at 1/2 distance scale and 1.1?
English and russian versions play at different speed?

Aktungbby · 02-01-21, 04:54 PM

nitro Skirata!

& Hobomaniac!

after a long silent run!

M134 · 02-02-21, 01:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hobomaniac

Hello everyone,
After installing the Epic Mod 2.27, I noticed something weird :
enabling english text and voiceovers in the in-game settings modifies the "worldscale" and speedmultiplier values!

It changes from....
worldscale=0
speedmultiplier=10

to this.....
worldscale=1
speedmultiplier=11

Does it mean the russians play at 1/1 distance scale and 1.0 speed, and the english people play at 1/2 distance scale and 1.1?
English and russian versions play at different speed?

Hello.
With introduction of wake-homing scale and speed values were locked at 1:1 for everyone more than a year ago. Later I've used those parameters in options to make language swithchable from the game and eliminate need for separate config file.
So now these parameters influence only language and voiceover. Speed and scale are hardcoded to be 1:1 for everyone.

Hobomaniac · 02-02-21, 01:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aktungbby

nitro Skirata!

& Hobomaniac!

after a long silent run!

I've been too busy playing TWos. And still playing. The best game of all times

Quote:

Originally Posted by M134

Hello.
With introduction of wake-homing scale and speed values were locked at 1:1 for everyone more than a year ago. Later I've used those parameters in options to make language swithchable from the game and eliminate need for separate config file.
So now these parameters influence only language and voiceover. Speed and scale are hardcoded to be 1:1 for everyone.

Thank you for the intel
I played with one of the old subs ( a permit class I think) and the game seemed to go much faster than what I'm used to (I play on 1/1 scale and on 1.0 speed on vanilla)
The sub accelerates from 5knts to 10 knts in two seconds. The torpedos also seemed to go faster
But i'm surely confused. I'll try some other missions tonight, with other subs

01-21-21, 11:39 PM	#211
Pablo Commodore Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 641 Downloads: 165 Uploads: 0	Oscar-type SSGN baffles Hi! I am playing with the Epic Mod 2.27 (Main Mod), and my US sub is tracking an Oscar-class SSGN at 95% solution. When I am abeam of the Oscar, it shows the Oscar has the following sensor values: Active 10 Passive -4 Towed -2 When I move into the Oscar's baffles, it shows Active -50 Passive -50 Towed -50 Shouldn't it be something like this when I am in the baffles of a sub with a towed array? Active -50 Passive -50 Towed -2 Thanks! __________________ "...far better it is to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs even though checkered by failure, than to rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy much nor suffer much, because they live in the gray twilight that knows neither victory nor defeat." - Theodore Roosevelt, speech before the Hamilton Club, Chicago, April 10, 1899

01-22-21, 09:18 AM	#212
steel shark XO Join Date: Oct 2019 Location: Uk Posts: 414 Downloads: 48 Uploads: 5	ill look i generally spend my time modding games ill look at the values for you so "Pablo" if they dont get back to you message me k Steel Shark __________________ "History is Written by the Victors." Last edited by steel shark; 01-22-21 at 09:30 AM.

01-22-21, 09:29 AM	#213
steel shark XO Join Date: Oct 2019 Location: Uk Posts: 414 Downloads: 48 Uploads: 5	new versions k so my new version of EM 2.27.b is up Epic mod ver 2.27 Tweaked files Ver 7.b-r ( VIIB-R ) this is exactly the same but the "campaign map speed modifiers" have been reset. *"the R stands for restored"* its were i all ways place em Downloads / Coldwaters / Gameplay section ill make a + version when i can Epic mod ver 2.27 Tweaked files Ver 7.b+ ( VIIB+ ) this one ill make all the missions in the Campaign Four times longer so kinda a mini free roam Campaign Version for epic mod so if a mission is 48 hours it would now be 192 hours so 8 days for that mission given stores & Decoy Expenditure and maybe damage thats probably extra time enough id say ------------------------------------------------------------------- expanded campaign ideas would be in the later part of the war the navy dose : 1.) more land strikes 2.) dedicated hunt missions for ssn , ssbn , ssgn vessels 3.) assault missions so softening up set targets 4.) patrol missions in designated areas to limit aid getting in 5.) mine laying Steel Shark __________________ "History is Written by the Victors." Last edited by steel shark; 01-22-21 at 03:01 PM.

01-27-21, 09:37 AM	#214
nitro Skirata Nub Join Date: Sep 2020 Posts: 3 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	Slow player subs with tweaks VIIB-R Hey, i tried playing with the Epic mod and tweaks VIIB-R. i am unable to go anywhere fast on the map with this combinations, making it impossible to intercept enemys on the campaign map. here is a video of a LA class on the campaign map: greetings, nitro Skirata

01-27-21, 10:29 AM	#215
steel shark XO Join Date: Oct 2019 Location: Uk Posts: 414 Downloads: 48 Uploads: 5	default the original setting are used on Ver 7.b-r hence i made (VIIB-r) in the first place to restore em those setting are : MapTimeCompression=3600 all so all Campaigns are at same Time Compression Hear are the Original Value,s for Epic Mod 2.27 Campaign,s MapSpeedModifier,s campaign001 - NATO (1968) North Atlantic - MapSpeedModifier=2 campaign002 - NATO (1984) North Atlantic - MapSpeedModifier=2 campaign003 - NATO (2002) Global Map-MapSpeedModifier=1 campaign004 - NATO (2002) Global Map Surface Fleet - MapSpeedModifier=1 campaign005 - Soviet Union (1968) North Atlantic - MapSpeedModifier=2 campaign006 - Soviet Union (1968) Global Map - MapSpeedModifier=1 campaign007 - Soviet Union (1984) North Atlantic - MapSpeedModifier=2 campaign008 - Soviet Union (1984) Global Map - Murmansk - MapSpeedModifier=1 campaign009 - Soviet Union (1984) Global Map - Kamchatka - MapSpeedModifier=1 campaign010 - Soviet Union (1984) Surface Fleet - MapSpeedModifier=2 campaign011 - Soviet Union (1984) Global Map Surface Fleet - MapSpeedModifier=1 campaign012 - Russia (2002) Murmansk - MapSpeedModifier=1 campaign013 - Russia (2002) Kamchatka - MapSpeedModifier=1 campaign014 - NATO (2000) South China Sea - MapSpeedModifier=2 So what im saying is you are playing the mod at the map speed that was intended by the makers Surface Ships are faster then subs so you need to predict were you want to Intercept them on the map and set your Vessels Course Accordingly Also remember that both mouse buttons do Vessel speed so : LEFT MOUSE Button is faster + RIGHT MOUSE Button is slower - but you all ready knew that ive put it in hear for other that might not know Hope this helps Steel Shark __________________ "History is Written by the Victors." Last edited by steel shark; 01-27-21 at 10:39 AM.

01-27-21, 10:37 AM	#216
nitro Skirata Nub Join Date: Sep 2020 Posts: 3 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	So, is the slowing of the player submarine a feature of your tweaks? because those values do match up, but the sub still only crawles, when the tweaks are enbled (player sub speed with tewks is about one fouth of the one for straight Epic mod). In the video i posted, i alternated between left and right mouse for movement. also one can see, that merchants are able to outrun a submarine travelling at 35kts greetings, nitroSkirata

01-27-21, 10:44 AM	#217
steel shark XO Join Date: Oct 2019 Location: Uk Posts: 414 Downloads: 48 Uploads: 5	hmmm yer rates your speed may affect your depth too im a bit rusty on campaign stuff so for example : left click = 30-35kts, 900ft right click = 25kts, 300-400 ft stopped = 5 kts, 50-150 ft Steel Shark __________________ "History is Written by the Victors." Last edited by steel shark; 01-27-21 at 01:54 PM.

01-27-21, 10:49 AM	#218
nitro Skirata Nub Join Date: Sep 2020 Posts: 3 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	Startig bells influence speed Ok, figured out what was going on the reduction in starting bells, was not only influencing the combat entry speed, but also the campaign movement speed. greetings, nitroSkirata

01-27-21, 10:58 AM	#219
steel shark XO Join Date: Oct 2019 Location: Uk Posts: 414 Downloads: 48 Uploads: 5	yer your right sounds right id forgot about that id also forgot about the depth thing can be use by setting the default x3 x3 settings so x3 telegraph x3 starting depths might need a re do then like i said a bit back this is why ive resisted doing campaign changes till Ver 7 so : PlayerStartTelegraphs=1,2,6 then make sure not to be moving on intercept cheers for bringing that back to my memory "nitro Skirata" ive been doing coding and models so much also audio and graphics ive forgot stuff about campaigns got a lot on atm also p.s cheers for using the mod Real subs dont charge around tho at flank very often kinda defeats the point of being silent hence my changes but yer with mission time limits in mind yer also you need to be able to go flank for when you need to Steel Shark __________________ "History is Written by the Victors." Last edited by steel shark; 01-27-21 at 04:04 PM.

01-27-21, 11:12 AM	#220
steel shark XO Join Date: Oct 2019 Location: Uk Posts: 414 Downloads: 48 Uploads: 5	ill readjust it Again ill change it then re upload it after testing ill rename it too so its different from the other version and remove the B-r version to be safe also Steel Shark __________________ "History is Written by the Victors." Last edited by steel shark; 01-27-21 at 01:00 PM.

01-27-21, 01:08 PM	#221
steel shark XO Join Date: Oct 2019 Location: Uk Posts: 414 Downloads: 48 Uploads: 5	5.6 - Epic mod ver 2.27 tweaks Ver 7.c VIIC my other main new features im still testing so for now use this version "5.6 - Epic mod ver 2.27 tweaks Ver 7.c VIIC" ill release a 5.6 - Epic mod ver 2.27 tweaks Ver 7.d VIID with new features when i can or it can be in epic mod 2.28 or the other mod when that comes out ANY one that used my older 5.6 - Epic mod ver 2.27 tweaks Ver 7.b-r VIIB-R use this instead 5.6 - Epic mod ver 2.27 tweaks Ver 7.c VIIC its were it usually is Downloads / coldwaters / gameplay Stay safe all Steel Shark __________________ "History is Written by the Victors."

02-01-21, 03:38 PM	#222
Hobomaniac Swabbie Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 6 Downloads: 67 Uploads: 0	Hello everyone, After installing the Epic Mod 2.27, I noticed something weird : enabling english text and voiceovers in the in-game settings modifies the "worldscale" and speedmultiplier values! It changes from.... worldscale=0 speedmultiplier=10 to this..... worldscale=1 speedmultiplier=11 Does it mean the russians play at 1/1 distance scale and 1.0 speed, and the english people play at 1/2 distance scale and 1.1? English and russian versions play at different speed?

02-01-21, 04:54 PM	#223
Aktungbby Gefallen Engel U-666 Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: On a tilted, overheated, overpopulated spinning mudball on Collision course with Andromeda Galaxy Posts: 27,823 Downloads: 22 Uploads: 0	welcome aboard! & welcome back nitro Skirata! & Hobomaniac! after a long silent run! __________________ "Only two things are infinite; The Universe and human squirrelyness; and I'm not too sure about the Universe"