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12-24-20, 09:05 AM | #1 |
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Life Aboard US Navy Ballistic Missile Submarine USS Wyoming – In Stunning 4K
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12-24-20, 09:35 AM | #2 |
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I'm wondering how many women (percentage wise) are in these crews
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12-24-20, 10:06 AM | #3 | |
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I'm assuming the Navy still doesn't believe in unisex or co-ed berthing. Also, it depends on whether we're talking officers and/or enlisted. |
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12-25-20, 07:32 PM | #4 |
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Hi!
The US Navy's been slowly integrating more women since about 2011: officers first, then senior enlisted, then junior enlisted - largely due to the bad experiences of many female enlisted sailors when the Navy integrated the surface force. US Navy is not giving out specific numbers of sailors, but they're planning to integrate at least 21 boats over time. One SSBN skipper was cashiered a couple of years ago for failing to foster discipline & professionalism in his crew. The SSBNs & SSGNs (ex-SSBNs) are large enough that they have enough room to arrange for separate berthing areas for female personnel, but the current attack boats do not, so the Navy's incorporating separate berthing areas into the remaining unbuilt Virginia-class SSNs and designs of the next-generation Columbia-class SSNs and New Jersey-class SSBNs. Here's the URL to a recent (well, last year) Navy Times article on the subject: https://www.navytimes.com/news/your-...e-submariners/
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12-26-20, 12:06 AM | #5 |
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My grandpa knows a dude who was a Green Beret and his opinion was that women shouldn't be in Spec Ops or the military for that matter. His reasons were:
1. They get pregnant half the time and then the pregnant woman has to go back to the states and a replacement comes in. 2. They cannot pull their own weight and they are worthless in battle as you cannot rely upon them to have your back when need be. They're always whining and complaining too. I can't voice my real opinion without getting into trouble so I'm gonna keep quiet.
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12-26-20, 07:59 AM | #6 | |
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I think it makes sense to let women into the military if they’re held to the same physical and disciplinary standards as men. If they can do it, let them.
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On another note, wasn't it the Wyoming that had the shower cams installed in the officers head?
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12-26-20, 10:36 AM | #8 |
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What the #### does that have to do with anything?
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12-26-20, 11:33 AM | #9 |
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12-28-20, 09:13 AM | #10 | |
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It was Wyoming - the camera was installed to view the showers. The case was resolved five years ago: twelve sailors were charged, seven of which were court-martialed, with ten convictions overall. Penalties consisted of varying amounts of brig time, demotions, and reductions in pay. The sailor who placed the camera received 10 months in the brig and a bad conduct discharge. Read all about it here: https://www.navytimes.com/news/your-...er-video-case/
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12-28-20, 10:34 PM | #11 | |
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Yes, Ohio backrooms allow easier intergration, but it's still a significant alternation. It's not just a matter of the bunkrooms also, as heads and CPO quarters are also impacted, with some quite significant work on the crew heads to make the forward one female only (with reduced size) and enlarge the aft head to compensate. |
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12-28-20, 10:51 PM | #12 |
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12-29-20, 08:17 AM | #13 | |
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