Here we go again-Ukraine once again - Page 771

Jimbuna · 06-25-23, 12:44 PM

Dargo · 06-25-23, 12:48 PM

After Wagner shot down 8 aircraft and killed at least 13 Russian pilots Andrey Kartapolov, Chairman of the State Duma Committee on Defense said “They didn’t offend anyone, they didn’t break anything,” No one has the slightest claim to them - neither the Rostov resudents nor the military personnel of the Southern Military District and the law enforcement. So what are their questions? There are no complaints against them." When asked if the Wagner PMC could be banned, Kartapolov said: “Why should it be banned? Here, after all, all questions are for the PMC's head. As Stalin said children are not responsible for their parents' actions. The one who raised the rebellion must answer." Kartapolov added that the Defense Ministry and the General Staff need to think about how to make sure that the potential of the "Wagnerites" is used "to the maximum, but for peaceful purposes." https://twitter.com/revishvilig/stat...93177437913089

Jimbuna · 06-25-23, 12:52 PM

Vladimir Putin is increasing airline charges to use Russian airspace by a fifth as he scrambles to raise hundreds of millions of dollars more for the war against Ukraine.

Dargo · 06-25-23, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Jimbuna

Vladimir Putin is increasing airline charges to use Russian airspace by a fifth as he scrambles to raise hundreds of millions of dollars more for the war against Ukraine.

So he tries to fill his pocket with people that want to get out under draft to win a war?

Jimbuna · 06-25-23, 01:11 PM

No, as far as I'm aware the charge is against non Russian airlines.

Skybird · 06-25-23, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Catfish

I don't quite get why Prigosomewhatzhin should stay away from windows.
I have no sympathy for any of them.

What...? Is there not even a single window in big wide Russia you could live with - not even the colourful artful ones in their basilikas?

em2nought · 06-25-23, 01:19 PM

If Brandon gets into too much more trouble I'm guessing they're going to have to turn this into WW3 to keep us distracted.

Dargo · 06-25-23, 01:34 PM

On 29 April 2023, Prigozhin gave an interview saying they haven't thought about marching towards Moscow, although "it's an interesting thought." From what we know now, their march was already being planned. https://twitter.com/Gerashchenko_en/...18840811274240

Blunder of the FSB they did not pick this up.

Skybird · 06-25-23, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Dargo

Blunder of the FSB they did not pick this up.

Or they did.

Wagner marched on Moscow and I think it was expected there would be military resistance and these units then changing sides. They expected to grow in strength while aprpoahcign Moscow. But this was not the case. No regular army units joined them, no high military ranks left their hiding and changed sides.

This does not mean they are loyal. It means only they are opportunistic. So for the FSB as well, possibly. Not warning the Gremlin in the Kreml and then seeing what happens.

Prigozhin miscalculated. He stumbled not about loyal cadres, but cowardly, opportunistic cadres.

Not that we must regret it. He is not one bit better than Putin.

MaDef · 06-25-23, 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Skybird

What...? Is there not even a single window in big wide Russia you could live with - not even the colourful artful ones in their basilikas?

Don't you mean basilica's? A basilika is a collection of laws from the Byzantine empire. Just sayin.

Skybird · 06-26-23, 12:35 AM

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Originally Posted by MaDef

Don't you mean basilica's? A basilika is a collection of laws from the Byzantine empire. Just sayin.

I was pulling his leg. But is it lost in translation.? A "Basilika" is German for a certain kind of church buildings.

Catfish · 06-26-23, 02:54 AM

^ oh i instantly got it, the leg still hurts

In german a Basilika (english basilica i guess) is the successor of big roman market halls, court houses and meeting halls that were called basilicas; their design would later be used for the architecture of the first churches with their central and side aisles. So the name stuck..

Had not heard of the byzantine law code with the same (and greek!) name before, thanks

Skybird · 06-26-23, 03:48 AM

Good analysis of the what and why of the 24th.

https://www-focus-de.translate.goog/..._x_tr_pto=wapp

Jimbuna · 06-26-23, 03:55 AM

Jimbuna · 06-26-23, 04:22 AM

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Catfish Dipped Squirrel Operative Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: ..where the ocean meets the sky Posts: 16,897 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	^ oh i instantly got it, the leg still hurts In german a Basilika (english basilica i guess) is the successor of big roman market halls, court houses and meeting halls that were called basilicas; their design would later be used for the architecture of the first churches with their central and side aisles. So the name stuck.. Had not heard of the byzantine law code with the same (and greek!) name before, thanks __________________ >^..^<*)))>{ All generalizations are wrong.

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Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 40,500 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	Good analysis of the what and why of the 24th. https://www-focus-de.translate.goog/..._x_tr_pto=wapp __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

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