Here we go again-Ukraine once again

[Exocet25fr]

Catfish wrote:

War crimes happen on both sides HA !

But NO!, for the moment the only one does not speak about it is Ukrainian, NO....?

And again I'M NOT PRO PUTIN...............

And I don't drink and smoke...........!, and your insults are don't matter, and I let you with your Bla Bla now......!

Byyye !

[Jimbuna]

[Commander Wallace]

Originally Posted by Exocet25fr

No i'm not Russian much !, but I'm furious when the biden clown speaks about Russian war crims ONLY !. USA and NATO with SWEDEN and FINLAND and this Zelensky puppet continue to provocate Putin. I understand the Putin position, but I condamn his methods.

The courageous Yankees want to create a WWIII in Europe ! thanks for the Gift

For me the East lands must stay in the East and the West in the West, it's all and simple !

Be care about DEFCON 1

If you like Russia so much, why don't you just move there ?

[Jimbuna]

A Russian battalion lost almost all of its armoured vehicles in a failed attempt to cross a river near Severodonetsk in eastern Ukraine, the UK says.

Images from the scene show dozens of burnt-out tanks after Ukrainian forces shelled pontoon bridges across the Siversky Donets in Luhansk region.

The UK's Ministry of Defence says the incident reveals the pressure Russian commanders are under to make progress.

It isn't clear how many soldiers were killed in the battle, but Moscow's forces appear to be making gains elsewhere in the area.

UK Foreign Secretary Liz Truss says Vladimir Putin is "humiliating himself on the world stage" and calls for tougher sanctions on Moscow.

Speaking at a G7 meeting, she says sanctions should not be eased until all Russian troops have left Ukraine.

Meanwhile, a Russian soldier is due to stand trial today for killing an unarmed Ukrainian civilian - the first alleged war crime case since the war began.

[Jimbuna]

The failed Russian attempt to navigate the Siversky Donets river, after Ukraine successfully launched an attack to prevent the navigation.

Russia began its crossing attempt on 8 May, transporting two companies of soldiers and 30 units of equipment, including tanks, infantry fighting vehicles and armoured personnel carriers, according to Ukrainian information service InformNapalm.

As soon as they crossed, Ukrainian forces destroyed the pontoon bridge in the water, and Russian troops "fell into the trap", it said.

The Russian military suffered heavy losses and many troops tried to escape and swim to the other shore but Ukrainian military immediately opened fire on them, it added.

It said a tank that tried to drive on to the pontoon bridge in the water was fired on and "rolled over" on its side, and others were destroyed, adding that crew members drowned.

More than 70 units of Russian military equipment were lost as a result of the unsuccessful crossing and Ukraine claims more than 1,000 soldiers could have been killed.

[Jimbuna]

Putin accuse Ukraine of blocking talks
Russia's President Vladimir Putin has told the German chancellor that it is Kyiv and not Moscow which is blocking peace talks.

The Kremlin's readout of the telephone conversation with Olaf Scholz came just before Ukraine's Foreign Minister Dmitry Kuleba - who is currently in Germany - told reporters he felt Russia didn't have the appetite for either peace or security talks.

Putin's conversation with Scholz also saw him repeat his justification for the invasion - which is referred to as "a special military operation" - and claim the civilians hiding in the steelworks in Mariupol were being held by Ukrainian forces.

The civilians had taken cover in the steelworks to hide from attacks on the city by Russia.

Then the band played 'Believe it if you Like'

[Skybird]

It seems confirmed that Ukraine has at least seriously damaged a transport offshore Ssnake Island that tried to bring in air defence systems that colukld cover the Southern-West of Ukraine and the ocean region south of Odessa. Its is vital for Ukraiane to not allow Russian radars, tactical missiles and far reaching air defences on that island.



A Swedish political analysis paper that was ordered by the government concludes that it is in Sweden's best security interest to join NATO. This marks clealryx where the journey is heading to. I think its fair to say that Sweden's soon application for NATO membership is as good as a certainty now. Its "official".



That and the Finnish decision will turn the Baltic Sea into almost an exclusive NATO lake .

[Skybird]

Turkey seems to mull threatening or blackmailing NATO with rejecting Sweden's and Finland's membership.

I have also the concern that due to America, the UK and the Ukraine defining the task ahead as defending the territorial integrity of the ukraine and maximising damages on Russia while Germany has the objective to just end the war at any cost, a conflict between these two opposing objectives will emerge, outcome open but Ukraine, US, UK imo being the stronger side.

A briefing of the chancellor on his Ukraine and defence policy this noon meanwhile ended with an éclat. Several members of the coalition partner FDP ("liberals") left early and let Scholz stand alone, turning their backs on him. You cannot put the authority of the chancellor any more bluntly ionto querstion. His respectability is in the dumps. Polls show that his public reputation took a record-breaking dive.

I think its possible that the internal rifts already are much deeper than the media report and the public assumes. The already left SPD's leftier wing and the chancellor's office too obviously serve as kind of the extended arm of the Kremlin in Europe. The "Genossen" find it hard to come to terms with their destroyed life lies and muggy self-deceptions. Also, the announced goal to make a defence budget of yearly 2% of the GDP an integrated command in the constitution, seems unlikely to come currently, with more and more in the SPD declaring their strict opposition to doing this. A US policy analysts and univerity professor recently called it the "ideological jetlag of the Germans". The 1 bn special biudget for the bundeswehr also more and more gets watzered down, to become only a tool to fiannce the 2% rise ove rthe coming 3-4 years - then the money would be spend up, and that was it.

The SPD more and more becomes a problem for the alliance.

We need to get rid of the Mainzelmännchen in the chancellor's seat.

[Jimbuna]

[Ostfriese]

Originally Posted by Skybird

FDP ("liberals") l

The FDP is about as liberal as a donkey is a bird.

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Ostfriese

The FDP is about as liberal as a donkey is a bird.

Thats why I used "". I remarked it only for non-Germans not knowing the party landscape in Germany that well. Liberal, in "" or not , is meant to mean libertarian here, not socialist as the term liberal now means in anglosaxon countries.

In plain language for all foreigners: the FDP is a German party that claims to be libertarian, but is not really.

[Spoon 11th]

Originally Posted by Catfish

Not so much french speakers here i guess.

Yeah, France should win a bunch of wars first.

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Spoon 11th

Yeah, France should win a bunch of wars first.

USA:
Korea.
Vietnam.
Gulf 91.
Afghanistan 01.
Iraq 03.

One draw, four majory strategic defeats. Better done? Hardly.

[Skybird]

Russia will stop delivering electric power to Finland from Saturday on.


Pyama party in Finland!
Putin has announced a boycott of all former Gazprom daughters in Germany, og which the Russian Ktraken ahs estabolished a huge complex network, these operated and operate gas storage sites, and pipeline networks. The germans have many of these more or less expropriated, by effect at least: they put quite some of them under state supervision and trusteeship to make sure they fill the resewrves upw ith non-Ruzssian gas and accept refining non-Ruzssian oil - beign part of Gazproim the dnetwork is designed to oeprate only by terms and conditions set by Gazprom Russia. The Germans blocked that influence and hoped to get still gas and oil. Now Putin has stopped these supplies.

Well, we should expropriate all these Gazprom affiliates. As an - all Western - compensation for 350 leased airliners that Russia has not given b ack and has practically stolen.

The wheat they steal in Ukraine and now sell as "Russian wheat" on the global market not counted.


There are still German comaponies doing business in Russia and try to hide behind a strawman argument of that they want to make sure their Russian workers can keep their jobs. This nonsense should end. either by companies pulling out voluntarily, like many already have, or by Putin retaliating against them and expropriating them for our side disposessing Russian companies in the West.

[Commander Wallace]