Time compression bug!

Triggerfish · 06-29-11, 05:31 PM

Got SH4 (+ uboat missions download from ubisoft homepage) some weeks ago, worked fine for some time. I started a career this week but midway trough the 3rd patrol everything slowed down and froze to the point of being unplayable. And no, Im not near shore, not near any action, no airplanes. And one mission before I could do 2000-4000x no problem.
Reboot / reload save game doesnt help.

Seems like my adventure with SH4 will end here, too bad cause it was fun as long as it worked normally. Ubisoft really should have a look into this.

Sailor Steve · 06-29-11, 06:33 PM

Welcome aboard, both of you one-timers!

I have no idea what the problem is. I have some lag, usually near land, but I've never let it put me off the game.

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Originally Posted by Triggerfish

Ubisoft really should have a look into this.

Ubisoft is never going to have a look into SH5, which was released last year, much less a game they finished with four years ago. We're on our own.

Triggerfish · 06-30-11, 06:08 AM

Hi, and thanks. I guess youre right, this game is too old to get much support. I will check out SH3 and Dangerous waters instead, then keep SH4 on the shelf for single missions which usually works fine.

Grooveclubhouse · 01-23-12, 11:33 AM

I have been having the same issue... (sh4 1.5)

Things were going great till about the end of my third or fourth patrol. Never had a problem with TC. Now even at very low TC (256) SH4 just freezez up. Not sure but I think it might be a particular date (I'll have to test it).

Anyways its been such a love/hate relationship with SH4..

. Personally I have never played a game THIS flawed and I really think UBI owes support on something so bugged.

Sailor Steve · 01-23-12, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Grooveclubhouse

Anyways its been such a love/hate relationship with SH4..

. Personally I have never played a game THIS flawed and I really think UBI owes support on something so bugged.

The same is true of SH3, though it suffers the least, and even more with SH5, though modders are finding ways around those flaws.

Unfortunately UBIsoft care a whit what you or I think they owe us. There is no more support for these games, and almost certainly never will be.

Grooveclubhouse · 01-23-12, 11:35 PM

Its just frustrating.

This is my 3rd career lost to some kind of bug.

This one though is strange there is something that happens at may 23 at 17:00 hours where even if I am at no time compression it still locks up and crashes. I've Tried loading a previous save and I get the same results at almost the exact time.

I'd really like to save this career as I just took down 2 CV's at the battle of the Coral Sea. Rearmed the went out and sank a few tankers west of Rabaul.

I'm wondering if there are any mods I can load while at sea that might resolve the issue? (New at all this and really don't know much about all the mods) Then I can sail home and be a hero!

I'll put in a good word for you back a Pearl!!

Farside · 03-08-15, 06:35 PM

I hate to go dragging this up from the depths but I appear to have found a bit of an anomaly.

While operating a particularly successful patrol I noticed that my time complression would stutter every so often and become very laggy. Now, I have a powerful PC capable of running all kinds of game on Ultra and High settings so this game should be nothing.

This is were the anomaly kicks in, I had a shout from the Hydrophone operator who heard a warship at my 276deg, weather was not too bad, in the dead of night. I thought stick us under, run at 1/3rd, silent. Then the bug starts. I'm now hearing a lot of sound contacts coming from that direction.

So I F11 (I know, realistic) and scoot over there only to find somewhere in the region of 100 destroyers all sitting, not in a formation but in a blockade style, not a uniformed space between but all over the place, but not one of them is moving, I think this may be the reason for the time compression lag. The detection distance was upped to 40km or something? Could this be the bug causing the lag?

The kicker was, that as I started to move away they seemed to follow me. Can't be certain about that as the game crashed soon after.

Was the Japanese navy after because I sank two Shokaku Class Aircraft Carriers on one patrol? Maybe. Would they send 100 odd destroyers to essentially follow me? Doubtful.

Currently running:
SH4
SH4: Uboat
Op Monsoon

ns1j · 08-12-21, 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Triggerfish

Got SH4 (+ uboat missions download from ubisoft homepage) some weeks ago, worked fine for some time. I started a career this week but midway trough the 3rd patrol everything slowed down and froze to the point of being unplayable. And no, Im not near shore, not near any action, no airplanes. And one mission before I could do 2000-4000x no problem.
Reboot / reload save game doesnt help.

Seems like my adventure with SH4 will end here, too bad cause it was fun as long as it worked normally. Ubisoft really should have a look into this.

And, here we are all the way out in 2021 and the problem is still there. It is so random, I can't identify any suspects. Whatever the problem is, it gets saved as code in a Save Game so saving, quitting, and restarting doesn't help. It is a lot more than just a "stutter". The system is unable to monitor the keyboard or mouse, so if you want to do something via the keyboard, such as surface, you must hold the key down for as much as a second.

propbeanie · 08-12-21, 12:20 PM

There are all sorts of reasons for that to happen. Number one used to be computer resources, but most modern computers can handle SH4 with two hands tied behind their backs. The use of Time Compression can also cause issues, and if you are shelling out to the Windows desktop to do email or other chores while playing, that can introduce troubles. Also, doing your "Saves" on top of each other, that can also contribute to the issue. Make each Save unique with a new name, and delete old, unneeded Saves - using the game interface...

The Stock game doesn't gain too much advantage by their use, but any modded game will generally benefit from applying either LAA or the 4Gig Patch - LAA is pointing at a CapnScurvy write-up on its use on his new install of Windows 10, and the links for the download are in his thread. The 4Gig Patch is from NTCore, and has a bit of a write-up also. You do need to have a 64-bit Windows to use those little applets. Another way the issue you describe can happen is by a bunch of traffic in your vicinity, which might be an area of roughly 30-100 square kilometers, or 20-60 square miles. The traffic doesn't have to be seen yet, for it to slow you down. But if you have a minimal computer system, no LAA, and encounter a 24 or more ship convoy or Task Force, that can really impact your computer - especially if there are errors involved.

I mention this, because some older mods have improperly terminated ships, that just keep circling the globe, while others keep spawning, and the "group" of ships near you might be 100 or more DD. This was bad in some older FOTRS versions, but it was not alone in this. If that's what you have (FOTRS - not FotRSU), let us know, and we have a small "patch" somewhere on one of my hard drives in the basement we can post somewhere for you...

hughesjr · 08-31-21, 05:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ns1j

And, here we are all the way out in 2021 and the problem is still there. It is so random, I can't identify any suspects. Whatever the problem is, it gets saved as code in a Save Game so saving, quitting, and restarting doesn't help. It is a lot more than just a "stutter". The system is unable to monitor the keyboard or mouse, so if you want to do something via the keyboard, such as surface, you must hold the key down for as much as a second.

There have not been any updates to the game or many of the mods in more than 10 years .. any issues around back then are still in the code.

One of the biggest problems is the 2GB memory limit. You need version 1.5.0.0 of the game to be able to apply the 4GB memory patch. Have you applied that?

01-23-12, 11:35 PM	#6
Grooveclubhouse Swabbie Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 8 Downloads: 37 Uploads: 0	Can loading a Mod help? Its just frustrating. This is my 3rd career lost to some kind of bug. This one though is strange there is something that happens at may 23 at 17:00 hours where even if I am at no time compression it still locks up and crashes. I've Tried loading a previous save and I get the same results at almost the exact time. I'd really like to save this career as I just took down 2 CV's at the battle of the Coral Sea. Rearmed the went out and sank a few tankers west of Rabaul. I'm wondering if there are any mods I can load while at sea that might resolve the issue? (New at all this and really don't know much about all the mods) Then I can sail home and be a hero! I'll put in a good word for you back a Pearl!!

03-08-15, 06:35 PM	#7
Farside Sparky Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Glasgow, Scotland Posts: 155 Downloads: 65 Uploads: 0	I hate to go dragging this up from the depths but I appear to have found a bit of an anomaly. While operating a particularly successful patrol I noticed that my time complression would stutter every so often and become very laggy. Now, I have a powerful PC capable of running all kinds of game on Ultra and High settings so this game should be nothing. This is were the anomaly kicks in, I had a shout from the Hydrophone operator who heard a warship at my 276deg, weather was not too bad, in the dead of night. I thought stick us under, run at 1/3rd, silent. Then the bug starts. I'm now hearing a lot of sound contacts coming from that direction. So I F11 (I know, realistic) and scoot over there only to find somewhere in the region of 100 destroyers all sitting, not in a formation but in a blockade style, not a uniformed space between but all over the place, but not one of them is moving, I think this may be the reason for the time compression lag. The detection distance was upped to 40km or something? Could this be the bug causing the lag? The kicker was, that as I started to move away they seemed to follow me. Can't be certain about that as the game crashed soon after. Was the Japanese navy after because I sank two Shokaku Class Aircraft Carriers on one patrol? Maybe. Would they send 100 odd destroyers to essentially follow me? Doubtful. Currently running: SH4 SH4: Uboat Op Monsoon __________________ Good Hunting! Torpedo Problems? Check out my thread for FAQ\'s and running depths!

08-12-21, 12:20 PM	#9
propbeanie CTD - it's not just a job Join Date: May 2016 Location: One hour from Music City USA! Posts: 9,760 Downloads: 440 Uploads: 2	There are all sorts of reasons for that to happen. Number one used to be computer resources, but most modern computers can handle SH4 with two hands tied behind their backs. The use of Time Compression can also cause issues, and if you are shelling out to the Windows desktop to do email or other chores while playing, that can introduce troubles. Also, doing your "Saves" on top of each other, that can also contribute to the issue. Make each Save unique with a new name, and delete old, unneeded Saves - using the game interface... The Stock game doesn't gain too much advantage by their use, but any modded game will generally benefit from applying either LAA or the 4Gig Patch - LAA is pointing at a CapnScurvy write-up on its use on his new install of Windows 10, and the links for the download are in his thread. The 4Gig Patch is from NTCore, and has a bit of a write-up also. You do need to have a 64-bit Windows to use those little applets. Another way the issue you describe can happen is by a bunch of traffic in your vicinity, which might be an area of roughly 30-100 square kilometers, or 20-60 square miles. The traffic doesn't have to be seen yet, for it to slow you down. But if you have a minimal computer system, no LAA, and encounter a 24 or more ship convoy or Task Force, that can really impact your computer - especially if there are errors involved. I mention this, because some older mods have improperly terminated ships, that just keep circling the globe, while others keep spawning, and the "group" of ships near you might be 100 or more DD. This was bad in some older FOTRS versions, but it was not alone in this. If that's what you have (FOTRS - not FotRSU), let us know, and we have a small "patch" somewhere on one of my hard drives in the basement we can post somewhere for you... __________________ "...and bollocks to the naysayer/s" - Jimbuna

06-29-11, 05:31 PM	#1
Triggerfish Nub Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 2 Downloads: 51 Uploads: 0	Got SH4 (+ uboat missions download from ubisoft homepage) some weeks ago, worked fine for some time. I started a career this week but midway trough the 3rd patrol everything slowed down and froze to the point of being unplayable. And no, Im not near shore, not near any action, no airplanes. And one mission before I could do 2000-4000x no problem. Reboot / reload save game doesnt help. Seems like my adventure with SH4 will end here, too bad cause it was fun as long as it worked normally. Ubisoft really should have a look into this.

06-30-11, 06:08 AM	#3
Triggerfish Nub Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 2 Downloads: 51 Uploads: 0	Hi, and thanks. I guess youre right, this game is too old to get much support. I will check out SH3 and Dangerous waters instead, then keep SH4 on the shelf for single missions which usually works fine.

01-23-12, 11:33 AM	#4
Grooveclubhouse Swabbie Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 8 Downloads: 37 Uploads: 0	I have been having the same issue... (sh4 1.5) Things were going great till about the end of my third or fourth patrol. Never had a problem with TC. Now even at very low TC (256) SH4 just freezez up. Not sure but I think it might be a particular date (I'll have to test it). Anyways its been such a love/hate relationship with SH4.. . Personally I have never played a game THIS flawed and I really think UBI owes support on something so bugged.