Watch out Neal, first Brexit now Texit!?!

Jeff-Groves · 03-29-24, 03:25 PM

IF it happened. Think of how many Forces would be coming in BEHIND the Feds!
All coming from other states. No way I can see that not happening.
And forces working to stop Federales heading to Texas. Blowing up railways, bridges, and anything else to hinder said forces.
If anyone thinks the IED's in Afganistan were wicked? Imagine them here in the States! Not to mention the trained War Fighters still living here that have a thing against the Military. Yeah. Joe could be the "Lincoln" of our age.

August · 03-29-24, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeff-Groves

IF it happened. Think of how many Forces would be coming in BEHIND the Feds!
All coming from other states. No way I can see that not happening.
And forces working to stop Federales heading to Texas. Blowing up railways, bridges, and anything else to hinder said forces.

Just remember that the "Federales" have a lot more military assets too. What's in Texas right now, while considerable, represents only a fraction of the military might they can bring to bear.

Worst case scenario for them is not a "Get the hell out of Afghanistan" scenario. I would expect to to be more like Xenophon's March of the Ten Thousand, if the ancient Greeks had complete Air Supremacy over the route.

Jeff-Groves · 03-29-24, 04:20 PM

Air Supremacy didn't help much in Vietnam. Didn't win Afganistan either.
And a Government move of force on Texas is gonna make 47 other States sit up and notice.
If they do that toTexas? We may be next. Not to mention not ALL in the Military are gonna just comply.

mapuc · 03-29-24, 05:07 PM

If and when Texas and it's habitants decide to leave USA I'm convinced it will be a peaceful divorce

Can Texas survive on its own ?

Markus

Sean C · 03-29-24, 08:50 PM

I hate moving. I mean, I really hate it. And I like Virginia ... and the United States. But ...

If Texas seceded, I'd seriously consider moving there.

Buddahaid · 03-29-24, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by mapuc

If and when Texas and it's habitants decide to leave USA I'm convinced it will be a peaceful divorce

Can Texas survive on its own ?

Markus

Doesn't seem like it can right now even with Federal help....

August · 03-29-24, 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeff-Groves

Air Supremacy didn't help much in Vietnam. Didn't win Afganistan either.
And a Government move of force on Texas is gonna make 47 other States sit up and notice.
If they do that to Texas? We may be next. Not to mention not ALL in the Military are gonna just comply.

Was not the scenario here that Texas had seceded from the US? The Federal government is not moving force at random here. It has an entire Army Corps and who knows how many Naval and Air Force assets stuck 100's of miles inside of now enemy territory, but not tens of thousands away in the case of Vietnam and Afghanistan. The Feds certainly have the power to defeat anything the Texans could throw at them. Would there be an insurgency? Of course but flat and open Texas will be the toughest kind of ground to fight one in if the Feds can see every move.

And i'm curious, what about the other two states you didn't mention? Why wouldn't they follow the other 47s lead? I'd think by that point concern would be unanimous!

Onkel Neal · 03-30-24, 09:37 AM

No insurgency needed, we just need to push politically, constantly, employ MLK and Gandhi's victim-whining tactics, have referendums and protests, make life hell for immigrants and visitors until the liberal elite in Washington/California/NY give up and say "to hell with you, Texas". We can sort out the federal properties and cut ties with the US.

The United States of America is a dying dynasty. If Texas can break free and return to its conservative, no-nonsense roots, I'm all in.

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Originally Posted by mapuc

If and when Texas and it's habitants decide to leave USA I'm convinced it will be a peaceful divorce

Can Texas survive on its own ?

Markus

Sure it could, why not? We could trade with the US and Mexico in areas where mutual interests exist.

Yes, it would have to be a peaceful divorce, for sure.

After the split, the US would take a few million liberal refugees, all the illegal aliens, the homeless and drug addled, then Texas would be set. Low crime, no nonsense, a place where decent, level-headed people would work diligently for a good life.

Skybird · 03-30-24, 10:32 AM

They wont let you go peacefully, they expect you to do "your part" for "investing" into the growing state budget. Maybe you can secede by force - but you will have to fight and suffer for it.

There are a very few historians who argue that this was the real reason for the civil war. The North had pushed industrialization at the cost of letting its debts explode, now wanted the South to pay "its fair share" for it. They could not command this to independent states, so concluded they needed to enforce a one-state nation with a centralised government, and so the ball got rolling, rallying people for this cause by hiding it and instead pretending that one was about freeing the slaves.

A believable scenario in my eyes. Its always about the money.

August · 04-19-24, 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Onkel Neal

No insurgency needed, we just need to push politically, constantly, employ MLK and Gandhi's victim-whining tactics, have referendums and protests, make life hell for immigrants and visitors until the liberal elite in Washington/California/NY give up and say "to hell with you, Texas". We can sort out the federal properties and cut ties with the US.

The United States of America is a dying dynasty. If Texas can break free and return to its conservative, no-nonsense roots, I'm all in.

Sure it could, why not? We could trade with the US and Mexico in areas where mutual interests exist.

Yes, it would have to be a peaceful divorce, for sure.

After the split, the US would take a few million liberal refugees, all the illegal aliens, the homeless and drug addled, then Texas would be set. Low crime, no nonsense, a place where decent, level-headed people would work diligently for a good life.

So you guys are not only going to leave but you are going to do some ethnic cleansing when you do. I wonder though, how are you going to determine who is a liberal or not? Will there be some sort of Mischling test to prove suitability? Those subhumans are quite sneaky you know.

Then there is all those Mexicans and their descendants. What will you Pure Texans do with them?

em2nought · 04-19-24, 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by August

I wonder though, how are you going to determine who is a liberal or not?

Just round up anybody who walks into a Starbucks or Panera. Follow all the Grab drivers to wherever their orders were placed from. Setup a camera in the vegan isle at the grocery store.

03-29-24, 03:25 PM	#1
Jeff-Groves Village Idiot Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 5,321 Downloads: 130 Uploads: 0	IF it happened. Think of how many Forces would be coming in BEHIND the Feds! All coming from other states. No way I can see that not happening. And forces working to stop Federales heading to Texas. Blowing up railways, bridges, and anything else to hinder said forces. If anyone thinks the IED's in Afganistan were wicked? Imagine them here in the States! Not to mention the trained War Fighters still living here that have a thing against the Military. Yeah. Joe could be the "Lincoln" of our age. __________________ I don't do Stupid. So don't ask. Last edited by Jeff-Groves; 03-29-24 at 03:41 PM.

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Jeff-Groves Village Idiot Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 5,321 Downloads: 130 Uploads: 0	Air Supremacy didn't help much in Vietnam. Didn't win Afganistan either. And a Government move of force on Texas is gonna make 47 other States sit up and notice. If they do that toTexas? We may be next. Not to mention not ALL in the Military are gonna just comply. __________________ I don't do Stupid. So don't ask.

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mapuc Fleet Admiral Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Denmark Posts: 17,968 Downloads: 37 Uploads: 0	If and when Texas and it's habitants decide to leave USA I'm convinced it will be a peaceful divorce Can Texas survive on its own ? Markus __________________ My little lovely female cat

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Sean C Grey Wolf Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: Norfolk, VA Posts: 910 Downloads: 12 Uploads: 2	I hate moving. I mean, I really hate it. And I like Virginia ... and the United States. But ... If Texas seceded, I'd seriously consider moving there. __________________ If you have a question about celestial navigation ... ask me! Celestial Navigation Spreadsheet

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Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 40,570 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	They wont let you go peacefully, they expect you to do "your part" for "investing" into the growing state budget. Maybe you can secede by force - but you will have to fight and suffer for it. There are a very few historians who argue that this was the real reason for the civil war. The North had pushed industrialization at the cost of letting its debts explode, now wanted the South to pay "its fair share" for it. They could not command this to independent states, so concluded they needed to enforce a one-state nation with a centralised government, and so the ball got rolling, rallying people for this cause by hiding it and instead pretending that one was about freeing the slaves. A believable scenario in my eyes. Its always about the money. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.