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Old 03-05-22, 04:10 PM   #331
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when you bury a container? You brace the inside walls then pour concrete on the outside walls. Reinforce with rebar if your smart.
Once the outside walls are cured, brace the roof and do a pour.
I'd suggest water proofing around the container also.
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Old 03-06-22, 06:14 AM   #332
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Image change of preppers. In German.

https://www.achgut.com/artikel/vom_i...el_der_prepper

You could try Google translator but it does not work too well with this text, due to its witty-crotchety style.

I am ahead of this winter with my planning cycle, and have ordered both for myself and my parents more petroleum, and "activated" part of my additional sweet water reserve holding, an additional 150 liters. Without power: neither heating nor sweet water, thats why. And Russia's cyberwar is hot since years, but now may turn even more aggressive to disrupt Western societies.

Power-independent petroleum ovens are incredibly tough to get now. Interesting. There seem to be quite some heads out there where inside them this certain coin if dropping. A market where I was last Monday: the employee told me their electricity-dependent petroleum ovens lay like lead in the shelves. Odour-free good petroleum also is impossible to get inside Germany wihtoiut severla weeks dleivery time, I order it from the Netherland, Belgium and Italy. And cheaper it is, too.

Trust in the German energy revolution seems to be very high, and growing.

I have stored now almost the legal limit of petroleum, which is at 200l in Germany, like for Diesel. (Gasoline just 10l or 20l in garages), and then all combined.

This plus now over 300l sweet water at any time and enough food for 2 months plus, and then plenty of batteries and other needed ressources.

Its not Russian bombers overhead, its blackouts due to cyberattacks that keep me hoarding. Raised alert, so to speak.


I wish I would live in a rural place and on own land. I then would have a squirrel rescue station and aviary (serious) - and also would start digging a cave. :LOL: Would also have learned to farm some vegetable and such myself, have one or two apple trees, and so forth. Maybe even soime animals, but not sure. Hens, why not, and geese take care of themselves...


I also would have two or three robo-sentry-guns from "Aliens", to keep what is mine.
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Old 03-06-22, 09:05 PM   #333
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when you bury a container? You brace the inside walls then pour concrete on the outside walls. Reinforce with rebar if your smart.
Once the outside walls are cured, brace the roof and do a pour.
I'd suggest water proofing around the container also.



That's a darn good idea. Use the container as part of the concrete form.
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Old 03-07-22, 12:21 PM   #334
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Always wanted to do the underground shelter idea. Especially since I became a Mine Engineer and have blasted out tunnels IRL.



Getting a degree in how to do it just gives me more expensive and dangerous ideas unfortunately......but I've got a rock face on the family farm going into the side of the mountain. Would be a ton of fun to get an old jackleg drill, a couple friends, and a skid steer to knock out a little cave shelter there. Maybe I'll even build a bar for it.



Why? No particular reason other than I want to tell people I own a cave.
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Meanwhile, not quite Doomsday but more like Pain-In-The-Neck Day.



The basic idea, cover your back in case the WWW goes FUBAR.

- Keep some (not a LOT of) cash stashed/handy. Again, not a lot of cash. Just enough to get by while things reset. We're talking some $10's and $20 in your wallet, don't be the guy who tries to buy a pack of gum with a $100 bill. A couple of hundred bucks in 10's and 20's is fine.

- Keep any prescriptions on hand that you need.

- Think about how to communicate and travel if needed.

-Buy one or two shipping containers of toilet paper and LYSOL because OH MY GOD, YOU'RE GOING TO NEED IT!!!!
Kidding, don't panic. Just be ready in case certain world powers decide to act like angry three year old's.

EDIT- I almost skipped the important part.

-Spread the word. If you're the only guy in town who got their #### in one sock before the mayhem happened, how is that helping you??

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Old 03-11-22, 03:04 PM   #336
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Read an article in a Danish newspaper about Danish preppers

One of them a woman had bought things so she and her family could survive for 3 days......3 DAY's !!?.

This is not a real prepper. Secondly if our leaders chose to act like 3 years old then it somehow doesn't really matter how much food and water you have gathered.

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Old 03-12-22, 12:46 AM   #337
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-Buy one or two shipping containers of toilet paper and LYSOL because OH MY GOD, YOU'RE GOING TO NEED IT!!!!
Walmart had a nice Bidet on clearance for $9.00, and it works pretty well. Just the one valve that's included would cost more than that at Ace Hardware.
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Walmart had a nice Bidet on clearance for $9.00, and it works pretty well. Just the one valve that's included would cost more than that at Ace Hardware.

No power - no tap water.


Same for heating and many ovens.
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Old 03-12-22, 11:12 AM   #339
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No power - no tap water.


Same for heating and many ovens.
Only if you live in a city.



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Or somewhere where the water table is deep. I'd be better off with a portable desalination unit of some type.
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Only if you live in a city.

Nord Stream 3 ?
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Save some money with a Safe Shed.
You dig a hole and bury it!
https://www.safesheds.com/
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Reason for optimism



After 1 week the Hot Zone will be the size of the max extent of the DFZ (10-20 miles).
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As I see it, the problem is not that the enemy drop one 10kt nuke-No they will drop hundred if not thousand of nukes with a variety of strength from 10 kt to 5 or higher megaton nukes.

Try to make same calculation as shown in your picture, but here you have 6 Mirv-2 Megaton nukes overlapping each other hitting Washington.

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Can’t remember who it was but somebody here at Subim posted this “Nuke Map” many years ago.


https://nuclearsecrecy.com/nukemap/
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