US Politics Thread 2021-24

[Buddahaid]

Originally Posted by MaDef

Really?? What kind of "leader" pulls the last 1500 troops out of a war zone while leaving 6000 of his civilian citizens there to fend for themselves, and then 6 weeks later has to send 6000 troops back in to rescue the people he left behind?

Because of BIDENS BUNGLEING, there are 13 American service members and 170 Afghan civilians who are now dead.

Thirteen servicemen out of 6000 (5800) comes to a mortality rate of about 0.03% which far far below the 1.6% from Covid you so casually dismiss as acceptable for people who aren't placed in harms way.

[August]

Originally Posted by Buddahaid

Thirteen servicemen out of 6000 (5800) comes to a mortality rate of about 0.03% which far far below the 1.6% from Covid you so casually dismiss as acceptable for people who aren't placed in harms way.

It's thirteen people that didn't have to die and you ignore the thousands of Afghan casualties and the thousands more, including Americans, who will die in horrible manners because Biden and the people managing him messed this up so badly.

Anyone who helped those idiots into get office bears responsibility for this debacle.

[Buddahaid]

Originally Posted by August

It's thirteen people that didn't have to die and you ignore the thousands of Afghan casualties and the thousands more, including Americans, who will die in horrible manners because Biden and the people managing him messed this up so badly.

Anyone who helped those idiots into get office bears responsibility for this debacle.

Again you base that on nothing but speculation and wishful thinking.

[August]

Originally Posted by Buddahaid

Again you base that on nothing but speculation and wishful thinking.

Are the 90 some odd Afghanis that died alongside those thirteen Americans also nothing but speculation? How about the dozen or so that dropped off our Aircraft as it took off. They just speculation too?


BTW what do you say to these scenes from Sundays service?

[Buddahaid]

Originally Posted by August

Are the 90 some odd Afghanis that died alongside those thirteen Americans also nothing but speculation? How about the dozen or so that dropped off our Aircraft as it took off. They just speculation too?


BTW what do you say to these scenes from Sundays service?

No I'm not saying that. I was reading into your comment that if people voted Trump these things wouldn't have happenned.


About the photo game. That means nothing to me as anybody can find photos to make a point.

[3catcircus]

Originally Posted by Buddahaid

No I'm not saying that. I was reading into your comment that if people voted Trump these things wouldn't have happenned.


About the photo game. That means nothing to me as anybody can find photos to make a point.

Stop making excuses for the Biden administration. They're all complete f&ck-ups who botched the withdrawal, doubled-down by drone striking children and families who supported the US, and just abandoned over 250 Americans and every military working dog in Kabul. And then declared victory.

They're all scumbags and they and everyone who support them need to go. I don't care if it's by impeachment, firing, resignation, or cancer.

[Buddahaid]

Originally Posted by 3catcircus

Stop making excuses for the Biden administration. They're all complete f&ck-ups who botched the withdrawal, doubled-down by drone striking children and families who supported the US, and just abandoned over 250 Americans and every military working dog in Kabul. And then declared victory.

They're all scumbags and they and everyone who support them need to go. I don't care if it's by impeachment, firing, resignation, or cancer.

Get over yourself.

[MaDef]

Originally Posted by Buddahaid

Thirteen servicemen out of 6000 (5800) comes to a mortality rate of about 0.03% which far far below the 1.6% from Covid you so casually dismiss as acceptable for people who aren't placed in harms way.

Wow, don't strain yourself.

You're really reaching to try and equate a virus pandemic to a military operation.

This operation is over, Biden & crew can't salvage anything out of this. They can try and spin it, but that won't help, this played out in real time across the globe.

The Important thing is the next step going forward. Do we keep Biden for the next 41 months (hoping he doesn't screw things up beyond repair)? Or do we put Kalamity Harris in charge ( the VP who has been AWOL for 5 months after being put in charge of the border crisis)?

[Buddahaid]

Originally Posted by MaDef

Wow, don't strain yourself.

You're really reaching to try and equate a virus pandemic to a military operation.

This operation is over, Biden & crew can't salvage anything out of this. They can try and spin it, but that won't help, this played out in real time across the globe.

The Important thing is the next step going forward. Do we keep Biden for the next 41 months (hoping he doesn't screw things up beyond repair)? Or do we put Kalamity Harris in charge ( the VP who has been AWOL for 5 months after being put in charge of the border crisis)?

I didn't need to.

[August]

Originally Posted by Buddahaid

No I'm not saying that. I was reading into your comment that if people voted Trump these things wouldn't have happenned.

Well I think a pretty strong case can be made for it given the months of inaction followed by this frantic last minute dash for the door. From what I understand Trumps plan for withdrawal included retaining control of military bases and keeping the Taliban pinned in place.

Their big spring offensive may never even have gotten started had Trump still been applying pressure to them. Now that IS speculation! But the fact is that only once he was out of power did the Taliban begin their offensive and then Biden administration let it happen for months until here we are.

[Buddahaid]

Fair enough and that's the first comment that goes beyond just crapping on Biden and waving the Withdrawal for Dummies book.

I will temper that with Trump stalling the process by refusing Biden intelligence briefs after the election and during the transistion period. That certainly couldn't have helped matters.

[August]

Originally Posted by Buddahaid

Fair enough and that's the first comment that goes beyond just crapping on Biden and waving the Withdrawal for Dummies book.

I will temper that with Trump stalling the process by refusing Biden intelligence briefs after the election and during the transistion period. That certainly couldn't have helped matters.

I'll agree with you somewhat, although Biden was hardly kept in the dark about very much given his status a former Veep and half a century in government, but that impediment was eliminated on January 20th. Didn't you and I exchange some posts around that time about this very subject? What did he do from then until summer?

Anyways yeah I will agree that the acrimony on both sides has gotten to the point that it is now hurting the country.

[3catcircus]

Originally Posted by Buddahaid

Get over yourself.

Get over myself?

I've got several colleagues and their families who are currently trapped in Afghanistan. Don't tell me to get over myself.

[Buddahaid]

Originally Posted by 3catcircus

Get over myself?

I've got several colleagues and their families who are currently trapped in Afghanistan. Don't tell me to get over myself.

Thank you for explaining why you carry so much anger because it all just appears as anti Biden spite and Trump worship otherwise. I hope your friends can find that safe passage the Taliban are promising.

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