[REL] Fall of the Rising Sun Ultimate, full release

[propbeanie]

Originally Posted by KaleunMarco

After being deployed in the Pacific for over two years, we get orders for Hunters Point.

Christmas in San Francisco.
The beer will sure taste fine once we cross under the Golden Gate Bridge.

[pik]

They most likely won't keep you long enough to unwrap anything... back out you go!

Originally Posted by Macgregor the Hammer

That's a great Patrol Report! Did you use some kind of filter on the screen shot? It looks like it has an 'oil painting' effect. Hopefully I can get project put to bed and finish my patrol and file a report.

MacGregor sends Bravo Zulu.......

No filter. Just a periscope screen shot using a GTX 560Ti... def bizzy trying to hash out this next release. We're trying to get things set-up for a future mod, and NOT break Nippon Maru in the interim...

Originally Posted by KaleunMarco

While on patrol in the Convoy College area north of Luzon, we encountered a small convoy with one escort.

the escort was dip-s#itting around and was run-over by one of the larger merchies, who sailed on. Too bad for them. And this is what happens....


nailed all four. Surfaced and took some photos. This is the best of the lot.

Sink 'em all.

So the little bugger detected you, and went to come get you, but decided to cut in front of one of the big boys, but didn't make it, eh? I had a DD do that with a CV a while ago (3 years??) while doing one of cdrsubron7's Kido Butai missions... looking looking... lol - difference on mine was that the DD did get out from under the CV's bow, apparently not affected enough to slow it down or reduce its effectiveness against me... sigh... to top it off, the CV was undamaged and managed to sail on home anyway... I had shot 6 torps, 2 preemies, 3 duds and one hit, to only be sunk roughly 30 minutes later...

Found It!:

That looks like something off the old single-core 2gig WinXP machine with it's AGP ATI AIW 9600 card from more than three years ago... - Notice my depth there though. From what I remember, there were already two other DD hunting me, and when that fellow got away, that did me in... psychological warfare, ~AND~ ASW...

[torpedobait]

I withdraw my minor complaint to Propbeanie regarding the apparent inaccuracy of explosion spouts. After reviewing a number of online examples and close ups in the game, I am now convinced that there is good representation of both "clean" and "dirty" water spouts upon torpedo detonation. I have seen some that were almost all blackish-gray on film, but all in all the mixture in FOTRSU is quite satisfactory. Thanks!

[KaleunMarco]

Originally Posted by propbeanie

Notice my depth there though. From what I remember, there were already two other DD hunting me, and when that fellow got away, that did me in... psychological warfare, ~AND~ ASW...

it is a damn shame that you could not have returned to PD to take advantage of the situation.

i have had similar experiences and have learned that you need to shoot the higher value target because when one explodes, the explosion will sink the other, but you will get credit for just the one target that you hit and not both.

[Mad Mardigan]

Ahoy, team....

Ok, so... I got a question...

Here's the dealio.. Before this question, I have My RTB saved, so if needs be, I can back track & just turn down the Gato...

That said, Started patrol 6, based out of Freemantle... tooling about in a Tambor class sub (USS Triton, which I got after an exemplary patrol with patrol 3 or 4... 1 of them 2 at any rate... ), managed to complete 4 objectives over all for patrol 6.

Ended patrol & based on My record of managing to sink 96k+ tonnage, got a shiny brand new Gato offered up to Me. Of course, I didn't know that it would be the Gato... though, considering I had the Tambor, it was a fairly forgone conclusion... doubt I would get offered up a Sargo or Porpoise...

Any who..

Is it normal to get a Gato & get jacked from being based out of Freemantle & shoved into porting out of Pearl.?

Date after I got the Gato is... 22/12/42 & haven't gotten too divested in patrol 7 yet.. which the orders I got, was to proceed to area F8 & await further orders... which could be anything I reckon...

If Pearl is normal after getting a Gato, while on patrol, is it possible that I may get orders to go to another base or would I have to apply for a trans to another base.? If the latter of those 2 there, what base is considered 'sanitized' as to be safe to do a trans to?

(Trans = Transfer)

This is the furthest that I have progressed to, thus far... and am kinda sailing uncharted waters, as it were...

So... forgive Me the uncertainty here...

M. M., Standing by...

M. M.




p.s.

Side note.. Seem to remember someone saying they ran into a Soyo Maru, I believe it was.. & it not looking right... I ran into 1 and everything on My end, looked as it should for it.. both with the Rec manual & the ship... so... not sure what the issue was with it & or how it occurred... for them... *shrugs*

I am running with both FotRS v1.39+Nippon Maru add in... as well....

[KaleunMarco]

Originally Posted by Mad Mardigan

Is it normal to get a Gato & get jacked from being based out of Freemantle & shoved into porting out of Pearl.? Date after I got the Gato is... 22/12/42

when a Kaleun accepts a Sub upgrade (award) you are transferred to whichever port that sub is assigned. i believe today, for the Gato in 1942, Pearl Harbor is the port of choice. That home base assignment may change in future releases.

If Pearl is normal after getting a Gato, while on patrol, is it possible that I may get orders to go to another base or would I have to apply for a trans to another base.? If the latter of those 2 there, what base is considered 'sanitized' as to be safe to do a trans to?

You may get orders to another base IF your boat-type is being transferred to another base.
Normally, that type of transfer is reserved for the boats that are being replaced by the Gato-Balao class.

you can always request a transfer by using the Telephone icon and if your boat is being based at a different base than where it is today, then you can request a transfer to that base.

i don't know what you mean by "sanitize" so i will leave that alone.

i hope my bi-furcated response answered your questions. if not, please sanitize them and re-submit.

[Mad Mardigan]

Originally Posted by KaleunMarco

when a Kaleun accepts a Sub upgrade (award) you are transferred to whichever port that sub is assigned. i believe today, for the Gato in 1942, Pearl Harbor is the port of choice. That home base assignment may change in future releases.



You may get orders to another base IF your boat-type is being transferred to another base.
Normally, that type of transfer is reserved for the boats that are being replaced by the Gato-Balao class.

you can always request a transfer by using the Telephone icon and if your boat is being based at a different base than where it is today, then you can request a transfer to that base.

i don't know what you mean by "sanitize" so i will leave that alone.

i hope my bi-furcated response answered your questions. if not, please sanitize them and re-submit.

Sanitized = being made sure that they are without issues... clean.. many other adjectives to chose from, so take your pick..

As for the rest, had thought of those, but just wasn't sure about if Pearl was the default base for getting a Gato off the rip, as it were...

On that note, have... noticed something that is extremely odd.. am getting notifications of 'radio messages received' yet when I check the clipboard, nothing is there.. nada.. zip.. zilch... 6 notifications of messages received & not 1 of them are there in the log clipboard, at all..

[KaleunMarco]

Originally Posted by Mad Mardigan

am getting notifications of 'radio messages received' yet when I check the clipboard, nothing is there.. nada.. zip.. zilch... 6 notifications of messages received & not 1 of them are there in the log clipboard, at all..

are these audio notifications: "Radio Message Received, Sir"?

when you hear them, are you coming out of Time Compression?

[Mad Mardigan]

Originally Posted by KaleunMarco

are these audio notifications: "Radio Message Received, Sir"?

when you hear them, are you coming out of Time Compression?

Not sure about audio, as I was using some tc think it was x64 tc, at the most... as I have to go from Pearl to area F8... as I mentioned... I know of getting them as they are shown in the light grey box just above the commands hud (this is the part where the engine telegraph, compass & depth gauge controls are, the grey box is the 1 where you see reports of messages received, confirm of orders given & info on when torps either dud, go off & when ships sink & such... located just above the hud...) stretched across the bottom of the screen.

When I check the log clipboard, where current orders/messages/ships sunk info can be seen after clicking or tapping on the F8 key, will pull that clipboard up to be interacted with... & I go to the messages section... nothing is there... despite having gotten reports of getting them in the grey box...

Hopefully, I haven't confused you, by this time..

Have snap shot the pertaining areas & attach them below...

Messages reported as having been sent to Me:


YET... where are they..??? :


D'oh... ne'er mind.. just realized something...

Somewhere along the passage of time.. forgot to put it back to showing 'all' messages... ( head bangs My desk.... )

[propbeanie]

Originally Posted by KaleunMarco

it is a damn shame that you could not have returned to PD to take advantage of the situation.

i have had similar experiences and have learned that you need to shoot the higher value target because when one explodes, the explosion will sink the other, but you will get credit for just the one target that you hit and not both.

That is kind of what ended up getting me sunk... lol - I "heard" the noise of the collision of the two, it being practically on top of me. So, since I was "testing" cdrsubron7's mission pack, I had the external camera available. So me being the brilliant strategist, decided that tactically, it would be prudent to come back up, and bring the rear tubes to bear as I did. Several problems with that... 1. I was at like 275 foot down... ahead one third, they were doing like 18 knots - after the collisions - like 21 prior to it. 2. Long about 180 feet is when the other two DD caught up with me, and both had throwers. They laid out a rather dense volley right on top of me. Their first run actually went below me... wow. As I was still climbing, that's when that one stuck on the Shokaku slunk loose, and he was right there, with the three of them taking turns doing the Mexican Hat Dance on top of me at about 150, trying to get down below them, and now be quite... leaking water and crew shouting gave them a pretty good trail to follow as I ended up passing the 600 foot mark a little later and just kept going... lol

Originally Posted by Mad Mardigan

... Ended patrol & based on My record of managing to sink 96k+ tonnage, got a shiny brand new Gato offered up to Me. Of course, I didn't know that it would be the Gato... though, considering I had the Tambor, it was a fairly forgone conclusion... doubt I would get offered up a Sargo or Porpoise...

Any who..

Is it normal to get a Gato & get jacked from being based out of Freemantle & shoved into porting out of Pearl.?

Date after I got the Gato is... 22/12/42 & haven't gotten too divested in patrol 7 yet.. which the orders I got, was to proceed to area F8 & await further orders... which could be anything I reckon...

If Pearl is normal after getting a Gato, while on patrol, is it possible that I may get orders to go to another base or would I have to apply for a trans to another base.? If the latter of those 2 there, what base is considered 'sanitized' as to be safe to do a trans to?...

The Gato is "alive" on 1942-03-04, aka 3rd March, 1942. Taking it before that date is chancey (chancie??). OK sprellenChekker - "Risky"... The earliest place to get one "legal" near that date is Mare Island in the v1.39 two days later. The boat goes active at Pearl on tax day 15th April, 1942. You'll be able to use Fremantle after 1st July, 1942, Brisbane 1st of December, 1942. Not available at Dutch Harbor, and goes active at Midway 20th April, 1942. You do have to allow travel time from Fremantle, so I would be curious to know what date you came in and docked at Fremantle? The Tambor isn't available at Fremantle until May of 1942, so did you maybe get it early also? Are you sure maybe you weren't at Brisbane somehow? You really should have stayed at Fremantle for the Gato... There are missions for the Gato at all of the home ports, from just after the start of the war, just in case you do get one early though, so the Gato is relatively safe to take early, but probably better if you don't. Your case though... I'll so some digging into this though. As KaleunMarco says, you should be able to transfer just about anywhere... But I'd only go with Brisbane, Fremantle, Midway or Pearl for now... too many "gotchas" hiding in the Advance Bases just yet...

Originally Posted by Mad Mardigan

Not sure about audio, as I was using some tc think it was x64 tc, at the most... as I have to go from Pearl to area F8... as I mentioned... I know of getting them as they are shown in the light grey box just above the commands hud (this is the part where the engine telegraph, compass & depth gauge controls are, the grey box is the 1 where you see reports of messages received, confirm of orders given & info on when torps either dud, go off & when ships sink & such... located just above the hud...) stretched across the bottom of the screen.

When I check the log clipboard, where current orders/messages/ships sunk info can be seen after clicking or tapping on the F8 key, will pull that clipboard up to be interacted with... & I go to the messages section... nothing is there... despite having gotten reports of getting them in the grey box...
[pic]
... Somewhere along the passage of time.. forgot to put it back to showing 'all' messages... ( head bangs My desk.... )

That little drop-down "Messages Received" "Messages Sent" "All Messages" box on that clipboard has fooled more than one skipper, let me tell ya... Did you notice that "Radio Report Received: Friendly small group..."? Those are from the groups reporting from their configurations, that come across as radio reports.

[KaleunMarco]

Originally Posted by Mad Mardigan

Somewhere along the passage of time.. forgot to put it back to showing 'all' messages... ( head bangs My desk.... )

well, don't cause too much damage to the desk or it will file a suit against you for material damage.

and then....there is the Concussion Protocol for you.

[Mios 4Me]

A probable SSF spawned into the warehouses at Takanabe on 2/19/45 @ 1630.

Balao, ex-Saipan, area 6.


Maybe these are more general questions than FotRSU specific but...

- does having the scope up on the surface increase spotting range?
- are there any noise or other penalties for having the torpedo doors open prior to engagement?
- is the GQ alarm or doors opening detectable at normal combat ranges?

[propbeanie]

Originally Posted by Mios 4Me

A probable SSF spawned into the warehouses at Takanabe on 2/19/45 @ 1630.

Balao, ex-Saipan, area 6.


Maybe these are more general questions than FotRSU specific but...

- does having the scope up on the surface increase spotting range?
- are there any noise or other penalties for having the torpedo doors open prior to engagement?
- is the GQ alarm or doors opening detectable at normal combat ranges?

We'll check those docks also... thanks

1 - It should, but no... The sub's "visual" seems to always have the scope up, even when you are submerged.
2 - no, but there should be... they should also close after being open for so long...
3 - not that I am aware of. There should be an algorithm for those though, A person should also be able to call their crew to GQ silently though, it just taking longer to get everyone to their stations... I don't know of any way to hook stuff like that though.

[Mios 4Me]

Thanks, PB.

I posted too quickly: there are a sunken gunboat and an inland MMSF at Miyazaki too.

[Mad Mardigan]

Originally Posted by propbeanie

The Gato is "alive" on 1942-03-04, aka 3rd March, 1942. Taking it before that date is chancey (chancie??). OK sprellenChekker - "Risky"... The earliest place to get one "legal" near that date is Mare Island in the v1.39 two days later. The boat goes active at Pearl on tax day 15th April, 1942. You'll be able to use Fremantle after 1st July, 1942, Brisbane 1st of December, 1942. Not available at Dutch Harbor, and goes active at Midway 20th April, 1942. You do have to allow travel time from Fremantle, so I would be curious to know what date you came in and docked at Fremantle? The Tambor isn't available at Fremantle until May of 1942, so did you maybe get it early also? Are you sure maybe you weren't at Brisbane somehow? You really should have stayed at Fremantle for the Gato... There are missions for the Gato at all of the home ports, from just after the start of the war, just in case you do get one early though, so the Gato is relatively safe to take early, but probably better if you don't. Your case though... I'll so some digging into this though. As KaleunMarco says, you should be able to transfer just about anywhere... But I'd only go with Brisbane, Fremantle, Midway or Pearl for now... too many "gotchas" hiding in the Advance Bases just yet...

Ok, can tell you, that with patrol 6, that I pulled in near the end of 11/42. The date of My being in the office, after docking, accepting the new boat, was Nov. 27th, of '42... before I went to start patrol 7... so My getting the 'Gato', was not a case of getting it too early. Can rest your nerves on that aspect, propbeanie, ol' chap...

On the aspect of the Tambor... can see of looking more into that & see what the date for it was... & report back on that... Think that was like.. sometime around May-July of '42... as I started off in the Sargo with 12/41 start as per normal. Normal being like the 8th or 9th of Dec. right after the attack on Pearl. I know of doing at least 2 if not 3 patrols in the Sargo, then got the message of getting a new boat offer... but no later than the 3rd patrol... as best as I can recollect right off hand.

Really miss being able to start the week before (roughly) with fred8615's Pre Pearl mod... but.. *sighs* it is what it is... unless y'all would like to investigate it's inclusion into FotRS.. no pressure or rush.. just something to consider, as to give the option to start right before the attack at Pearl.

post edit...

Ok, checked & was right after patrol 3, end date of 04/30/42 new command 05/01/42... Tambor class boat...

Originally Posted by propbeanie

That little drop-down "Messages Received" "Messages Sent" "All Messages" box on that clipboard has fooled more than one skipper, let me tell ya... Did you notice that "Radio Report Received: Friendly small group..."? Those are from the groups reporting from their configurations, that come across as radio reports.

Yeah, as well as noticing numerous reports of 'neutral groups' (either task forces or convoys... as the case would be, as well.. but... come to think of it... have yet to really see any convoy's to speak of.. unless ya count 4 merchies as a convoy...

Do remember seeing when I tried running in an S class, of a sort of convoy near Manilla, that I ran into.. 1/2 warships & 1/2 merchie's... 1st run in with them... got orders to sink the merchie's.. only... the 2nd time I attempted a career in a 'sugar' boat.. when I ran into that self same group.. the orders came in attack & sink whatever... as I recall...

Long/short of it.. both times I ended up fish food, along with the crew... (S class, is not easy.. & I tip Me hat to the guys who did so, back then... mucho respecto... )

I sorta... had it slip My ol' beat up, dusty, cob web ridden rusty hd of a brain pan, to remember to manually change the setting to all messages...

chalk it up to.. a brain fart moment...

M. M.

[Mad Mardigan]

Originally Posted by KaleunMarco

well, don't cause too much damage to the desk or it will file a suit against you for material damage.

and then....there is the Concussion Protocol for you.

Let it sue Me.. can't get blood from a turnip...

M. M.



p.s.

What.. this ol' oak noggin... naww..