[REL] Fall of the Rising Sun Ultimate, full release

[Mad Mardigan]

Originally Posted by Moonlight

I can give you some feedback on night attack planes before you even implement them Mr beanie, I would hold off on them for another couple of versions until you've fixed any issues that are still pending and any others you might have inadvertently caused by your incessant desire to fiddle while Rome burns. (just some funny brit sarcasm Mr beanie)

That's just my two penneth Mr beanie, not that anyone takes any bleeding notice of anything I have to say around here, so go on then and bring them in, just don't expect a bleeding round of applause when unexpected CTD's are still occurring when players are expecting you to have finally fixed those issues. It takes long enough to get to these mission co-ordinates as it is without having to navigate an ocean of "Oh bloody hell not again" scenarios like some players have been experiencing.

Thankfully I never had a CTD in my last 1.39 campaign so I don't know how prevalent they are.

Thus far, Mr. Moonlight, can state that I, for 1, have only experienced 2 CTD's.

1 when I went to start a patrol, out of Surabaya, as I recall.. & now, what with a plane, just as I was headed back to base there at Brisbane.. & I am in mid '43 middle of the month of June, to be precise...

Not bad, thus far.. to be frank about it...

M. M.

[Mad Mardigan]

Originally Posted by propbeanie

Well, the night attack has always been there. It's just that the airplanes that were supposed to be carrying radar had a configuration issue, which was also a contributor to some of the CTDs. Usually, the CTDs while playing are from an overload of the game system and its "throughput" as it tries to resolve not finding an "asset" or parts of an asset, such as the radar. Same with the ships. This is why, when you encounter a ship that was not moving when it was supposed to, that you would see "stuttering" in the game, like something was trying to spawn - which it was, but the game couldn't find the part(s). Airplanes are more resource intensive, so it takes less of them to overload the system. This is NOT the computer system, because you can have "muscle" beyond the horizon with all of the latest/greatest in 'modern' computer gear, and this game will still mange to crash from this. Rather, it is the game's 32-bit engine that overloads. Sometimes, it is rather amazing that it runs when it does, with some of the abuse we give it...

We did manage to find a(nother) possible link to CTDs as a mission goes to load when you click on the wall map in the Captain's Office, but we are not 100% certain of that yet, and finding all of the possible permutations among 519 mission sets, 273 DynamicMiss calls, 475 PatrolObjectives calls, as well as the 1068 Flotillas calls is a bit daunting to say the least for part-time "employees" (two, count 'em = T-U-E) working for the love of fiddling. Some of the issues are in the stock game, as well as other mods, and we are fortunate to have people such as yourself helping us find them all. Sometimes it's one step forward, and two back, but we do strive for 3 steps forward...

Always strive for 3 steps forward & preferably no steps back...

A worthwhile goal, in My opinion....

M. M.

[Moonlight]

Originally Posted by propbeanie

Sometimes it's one step forward, and two back, but we do strive for 3 steps forward...

All your fiddling with the files are much appreciated Mr beanie, if I knew anything about this game I'd get stuck in and give you a hand but I don't so I'll continue being a PITA from the side lines.

[Jeff-Groves]

propbeanie does a lot for everyone.
So I'm sending him a VERY special gift.

[propbeanie]

Originally Posted by Mad Mardigan

Corrected... got in sort of a hurry & forgot to double check, before I posted... been.. a bit under the weather, of late.. feeling, ugh..

I have since reported Myself for dereliction of duty...

M. M.

Prior to reporting yourself DoD, report yourself to the boat's "surgeon" (Pharmacist's Mate). Just don't tell him you have a belly ache. He is still fond of his earlier patrol where he got to do an appendectomy and was successful. Definitely went to his head.

Originally Posted by Moonlight

All your fiddling with the files are much appreciated Mr beanie, if I knew anything about this game I'd get stuck in and give you a hand but I don't so I'll continue being a PITA from the side lines.

- We definitely want / desire all opinion and criticism. Scary thing is, I actually like wrenching on it almost as much as playing it - almost. One of these days, I have to take some time out from the fun stuff though, and make me a custom database that holds all these text files' values for much easier cross-referencing. "Build it, and they will come." but man... Programming is ~nothing~ like it was in the good old 8-bit Assembler, Borland C and Pascal days before that shtinking Windows krutt came along...

Originally Posted by Jeff-Groves

propbeanie does a lot for everyone.
So I'm sending him a VERY special gift.

Wow. I really appreciate it Jeff - I think... I have heard stories about you though, and there is that video thingie on the dark webs... - we don't have a "nail-biting" smilie, do we?... - but seriously, thank you very much, good sir.

[propbeanie]

I keep forgetting to ask this of all of you:

Has anyone been driving an S-Boat, either an S-18 or S-42 Class around the end of July and beginning of August 1942? Anytime after August 1, 1942 when you dock at your home port, your boat should automatically (eventually) go from the original 4" 50 cal deck gun to the 3" 50 cal deck gun? Any issues at that time with it, or maybe later in the career? We have only had one report of that, and several tests have not confirmed. Thanks.

[phooey]

Hey folks, FORTSU destroyers sometimes not only just randomly drop their depth charges without pinging me first, but also when they're still about 700 yards away or more from me. Is this the intended behaviour? In GWX3, the destroyers at least always try to pass over me first. I'm confused . I was below thermal layer when it happened though.

[propbeanie]

DD of all nations would just randomly drop depth charges. Often, it was because they were afraid of the submarine, but other times, they did it to scare the submarine into making noise by going to Ahead Flank. Also, they don't need to ping to drop. If you make enough noise, the hydrophone will work just fine, thank you very much. But being below the thermal layer would have a tendency to confuse the sonar / hydrophone operators, since the layer will at the least "bend" the sound of your submarine, making it to where it sounded like you were where you weren't... and other times, the layer would "reflect" the sonar signal, and make it bounce off into nothingness. So they can probably hear you, but can't locate you. Come back up to PD though, and let them see your scope, and they'll find you quick enough...

[propbeanie]

I just tried it again, and there is nothing wrong with the link. At the top of the download page, by this symbol and text:
If you are experiencing trouble downloading, it could be due to an ad-blocker or extension in your Chrome browser.

Try whitelisting www.subsim.com in your ad-blocker extension, or switching to Microsoft Edge browser or Firefox to complete the download. Thanks.

Make certain that your browser is letting you do the download. Also, be certain that you have not run afoul of Downloads and daily allowed download amount, which is the main reason for the "Slow Down, cowboy!..." messages.

Edit: Alright dex, where did your post go?... lol

[KaleunMarco]

Originally Posted by propbeanie

DD of all nations would just randomly drop depth charges. Often, it was because they were afraid of the submarine, but other times, they did it to scare the submarine into making noise by going to Ahead Flank. Also, they don't need to ping to drop. If you make enough noise, the hydrophone will work just fine, thank you very much. But being below the thermal layer would have a tendency to confuse the sonar / hydrophone operators, since the layer will at the least "bend" the sound of your submarine, making it to where it sounded like you were where you weren't... and other times, the layer would "reflect" the sonar signal, and make it bounce off into nothingness. So they can probably hear you, but can't locate you. Come back up to PD though, and let them see your scope, and they'll find you quick enough...

this technique is very true and sometimes evident in SH4 play although i have seen it more prevalent in TMO than FOTRSU.

in TMO, three and sometimes four escorts will circle the area where they detect you. then one escort will dash in for a DC attack while the other two or three sit back, positioned at various angles, listening for you to dash off in a reaction to the DC attack. then a different escort picks up your sound pattern and then executes the maneuver again, and again, and again, until you are sunk or you have managed to out-smart them and sneak away. i refer to it as the Circle of Death, because if you get caught in it, well, you are probably dead-sub-sailing.

[Mad Mardigan]

Originally Posted by KaleunMarco

this technique is very true and sometimes evident in SH4 play although i have seen it more prevalent in TMO than FOTRSU.

in TMO, three and sometimes four escorts will circle the area where they detect you. then one escort will dash in for a DC attack while the other two or three sit back, positioned at various angles, listening for you to dash off in a reaction to the DC attack. then a different escort picks up your sound pattern and then executes the maneuver again, and again, and again, until you are sunk or you have managed to out-smart them and sneak away. i refer to it as the Circle of Death, because if you get caught in it, well, you are probably dead-sub-sailing.

True... if you are 1 to panic.

Was a task force I reported on not long ago, that I had the DD/DE's... milling about, with a couple of them nearby to where I was.. (while the big boys, froze up on the spot... whilst the merchie's, beat feet from the area... ) took a bit of doing, but.. was able to get out of the area, while only incurring some minor slap & tickle damages... & there was like.. 6 to 8 of them pesky suckers, a-huntin' for lil' ol' Me... I did manage to sink 1 of them pesky suckers (using a cutie no less... ) Those are worth grabbing a couple of, by the way... don't even have to be @ peri depth to launch 'em...

All I can say is, it pays to keep a cool head & NOT go into full blown panic mode.

M. M.

[Mad Mardigan]

Ok, something I noticed that seems... a bit off, with the orders I received from HQ...

On the map, it shows the area marked by a Star, as being off to the NE of Saigon... YET... the orders in the letter, state to do the insertion, off Penang.

So... which is it..? Saigon or Penang... Inquiring minds, wanna know...

[KaleunMarco]

Originally Posted by Mad Mardigan

Ok, something I noticed that seems... a bit off, with the orders I received from HQ...

On the map, it shows the area marked by a Star, as being off to the NE of Saigon... YET... the orders in the letter, state to do the insertion, off Penang.

So... which is it..? Saigon or Penang... Inquiring minds, wanna know...

you drew a really odd mission, herr kaleun.
it is neither Penang nor Saigon. the graphic is more correct than the text.
the mission is definitely into Viet Nam and closer to Can Ranh Bay than anything else. Definitely neither Penang nor Saigon.
once you begin your mission, head for the icon. your drop-off zone is within 5 km of the marker.
The boys editing FOTRSU need to tidy up that mission.

[dex]

I want the shoot down american planes,I have good flack guns instaled but nothing,just passed above submarine droped bombs and not even a scratch

[dex]

Originally Posted by propbeanie

I just tried it again, and there is nothing wrong with the link. At the top of the download page, by this symbol and text:
If you are experiencing trouble downloading, it could be due to an ad-blocker or extension in your Chrome browser.

Try whitelisting www.subsim.com in your ad-blocker extension, or switching to Microsoft Edge browser or Firefox to complete the download. Thanks.

Make certain that your browser is letting you do the download. Also, be certain that you have not run afoul of Downloads and daily allowed download amount, which is the main reason for the "Slow Down, cowboy!..." messages.

Edit: Alright dex, where did your post go?... lol

Sorry I deleted post about downloading Fotrs... I managed to download simple 1.3 Fotrs version ,it s not ultimate version.
I found that link on https://www.mediafire.com/folder/163...#kwu6leadq2mh6