Wuhan virus 2020

[mapuc]

These two Danes who have been infected with Monkey Pox are both men who are homosexual.

Markus

[Jimbuna]

Lots of folk who contracted AIDS were homosexual but a great many others weren't.

[Gorpet]

Central Florida, Our 1st case showed up a couple days ago. How do i know ? A tired hospital worker alerted the local news media.And quit their job.

[Skybird]

Lets keep monkey pox and covid two threads. They are not the same. And covid likely will be back in winter.

[Xerxes]

Originally Posted by Skybird

Lets keep monkey pox and covid two threads. They are not the same. And covid likely will be back in winter.

Covid is like the flu at this point: Yearly shots, comes back every year.

[Jimbuna]

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How did Corona enter the world? A hitherto little-noticed research report strengthens the thesis that a laboratory accident could have triggered the Sars-CoV-2 pandemic

Christian Drosten, not unusually for a scientist, kept changing his mind about the pandemic coronavirus. After all, there were constantly new findings to process. Among the Berlin chief virologist's most surprising turns of phrase were a few sentences in interviews in early February. Drosten doubts the assumption, which he had vehemently held until then, that researchers and authorities in the Chinese city of Wuhan could not be proven to have made mistakes or covered up the path of the pathogen from bats to humans.

To be sure, Drosten still seems certain that the virus passed from a species sold at the Huanan Seafood Market to humans toward the end of 2019. But he acknowledged being "surprised" that Chinese researchers had previously conducted "gain of function" experiments with U.S. experts. Those experiments, he said, involved inserting new proteins into bat viruses that caused the viruses to replicate more effectively.

Some of the experiments took place at the Virological Institute in Wuhan (WIV). On the question of safety precautions, Drosten said the project reports "do not contain all the details." The Charité scientist indicated he regretted that he had once "put his hand in the fire" for colleagues and called for "China's will" to provide more detailed data.

But that is seen as increasingly unlikely. Beijing has repeatedly harangued the world public, most clearly during a fact-finding mission by the World Health Organization (WHO) to Wuhan in February 2021. The WHO delegates were not even allowed to visit the "correct" laboratories at that time. On the other hand, the chain of circumstantial evidence in favor of a non-natural origin does not let go of anyone who takes a closer look at it.

The US researcher Alina Chan and the science author Matt Ridley expose this chain most convincingly so far in their book "Viral" (published by Harper Collins). The research report, which has so far only been published in English, was already available at the time of Drosten's change of heart. In it, Chan and Ridley do not spin a conspiracy theory of a bioweapon deliberately put into the world or something similar. If one follows them, the thesis of the laboratory accident presents itself however as a quite logical variant.

Pathogens have often escaped. In 1967, seven people died from Ebola-like viruses with which experimental monkeys were infected in Marburg. In the small Sars-1 pandemic of 2003, researchers who were already carrying the virus traveled by air or long-distance trains.

In the current Sars-CoV-2, investigations are focusing on caves and mines in southern China. Myriads of bats, natural carriers of coronaviruses, live there. Dozens of times since about 2005, scientists from Wuhan have traveled the distance of more than 1,000 kilometers to collect viruses from animals and humans in densely forested areas. Sars-1 had alarmed them. In 2012, three workers died after handling bat droppings in a mine.
Researchers wanted to modify viruses in the lab

The samples were analyzed and also processed at WIV, a leading institute in China. One of the virus types found, called RaTG13, has a 96 percent match with today's tormentor.

The WIV database of around 15,000 virus samples has been inaccessible to outsiders since September 2019. Traceable, however, because partly published in high-ranking scientific journals, are many experiments with the coronaviruses from southern China that took place over the years. Often the name of the WIV star scientist Zheng-Li Shi was among them, often also that of her US-American cooperation partner Peter Daszak. On some occasions, U.S. taxpayers funded the experiments.

Around the world at the time, researchers were trying to modify viruses in the lab. They wanted to find out under which circumstances pathogens could become more dangerous. Some colleagues criticized this as irresponsible playing with fire. So Shi and Daszak were far from the only ones pursuing this direction. In addition to scientific ambition, which is always a legitimate guiding principle, Daszak may have had a private-sector side. A British-born zoologist, Daszak does not belong to any university, but heads an organization called Eco Health Alliance, which relies on sponsors and research funds.

Chan and Ridley are very suspicious of the fact that the pandemic Sars-CoV-2 has a protein structure that all of the more closely related coronaviruses do not have. This so-called furin cleft makes it easier for Sars-CoV-2 to infect respiratory cells. Could it be a result of the lab experiments? "Viral" provides no evidence. But the authors note that Shi was involved in a lab manipulation of the furin cleft in another coronavirus.

Shi has not appeared in public for a long time. In one of her rare interviews, she claimed to have checked to see if the virus could have escaped from her lab. That was not the case, she said. Daszak has initiated or signed statements by several scientists that portray the possibility of a laboratory accident as the cause of the pandemic as a pipe dream. He is not known to have seriously addressed the pros and cons.

On the other hand, new speculations continue to emerge. The "Wall Street Journal", for example, claims to have learned that three WIV employees were suddenly hospitalized in November 2019. The reason is unknown. No one has yet refuted the report. From the point of view of the proponents of the prevailing assumption that Sars-CoV-2 migrated naturally from the virus-infested south to the metropolis of Wuhan, there are three possibilities. The pathogen could have traveled in frozen meat. An "index patient," such as a hunter, may have brought it to Wuhan. Or another species of animal offered at the Seafood Market served as a natural "intermediate host."

While the first two theories are considered difficult to prove, the third enjoys the status of a worldwide, official main thesis. Its shortcoming is merely that to date, despite extensive analysis, no animal offered at the Wuhan market has been found to carry Sars-CoV-2 - neither pangolins nor civets nor tanuki. Drosten is particularly suspicious of the latter.

Recently, three studies in the journal Nature reported sections of the market site where the virus was said to have been detected more frequently than at other stalls. Some reports interpreted this as evidence that the pandemic was triggered via animal intermediate hosts. Scientists interviewed by Nature are not so sure. None of the studies suggest that the infamous market was just one stop on the path of the pathogen. In any case, there are indications that the virus was already circulating in Wuhan before the outbreak at the turn of 2019/2020.

The WHO and the USA, among others, continue to investigate the origin. They would like to take a look at original Chinese sources and interview the relevant people. But secrecy reigns supreme. Journalists have tried several times, for example, to inspect the caves and mines in the south of the country. Security forces put a stop to the research.

Translated with www.DeepL.com/Translator (free version)

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Coronavirus infections in the UK continue to fall, with one in 60 people now affected, according to the latest estimates from the Office for National Statistics (ONS).

In the week to 21 May, infections fell in England, Wales and Northern Ireland, but changed little in Scotland.

That means around one million people have the virus, which is similar to Covid levels at the start of December.

one in 60 in England - down from one in 55 the week before
one in 55 in Wales - down from one in 40 the week before
one in 80 in Northern Ireland - down from one in 60 the week before
one in 40 in Scotland - up from one in 45 the week before
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-61606295

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[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Jimbuna

And not just that^!

BTW, the link between number of genes getting regulated and the dosis of Vitamine D taken is not linear, but exponential. If you increase your Vit-D level in the blood in lets say 10 nanograms/millilitre intervals, push it beyind the shy medicla reocmmendaiton of 30 and 40 to 50, tzhen 60, 70, 80 and so on, you do not get a raised linear reaction in gene regulation every time increase, but with every 10 nanograms more you get a very huge and drastically climbing exponential rise in number of genes getting "regulated". So here is an example for something where "more" indeed means "more": greater investement leads to exponentially more gain. At some point the reaction curve for the gained benefits become shallow again, but until then you can see raises from intervalled Vitamine D level rises by severla factors. Especially the raises in the range from 40 to 70 ngr/ml seem to bve very impressive.

What does gene "genes regulation" mean? A good analogy would be this: every cell oin tje body potn etilaly can do evertyhign that somewhere, soemtimes needs to get done in a healthy body, but with the cell ceated ion the local context of organs, glands and tissues where it acuaully is located, it must focus on just a very small fraction of possible functions from the canon of all possible functions so that this siongle cell can contirbute its dshare to the overall heaolthy funcitoning of h body. in other words, cells specialise in duties and work they do. So they do not need all the workign rules and recipes and manuals that are part of the general canon of possible functions and cellular working instructions. It slike a chef havign a cooking book with all rcipes of the world,l but in his restruatn thats eöcilaises on a local ktiche n tadtiioon he only needs a ver yfew of them to run his business. What does he do, therefore? He puts booksmarks in his hiugem ehavy, thick almanac with ricipes, to find the things he needs regularly faster and quicker and easier. And her eis wher eVitamne D is ofering one oif its many benefits: it helps the clel to ptimise its workload and efficiency by bookmarking thoise genes' functions that this cell needs in its daily duties. The cell works more efficient this way, and adapts faster to changing demands and situations (like the chef has the recipe that was ordered faster at ahnd and starts cooking earlier and the guest gets his meal earlier).

That does not sound like a big thing. But it is!

So, it makes an awesome lot of sense to not leave it to the shy recommendations by "mainstream doctors" to have your Vitamine D level at 30 or 40 ngr/ml, or between 40 and 60 as the more progressive already recommend. Nothing wrong in aiming at values between 70 and 90. I assume from all what I red about this topic that from 90-100 on you do not see much more benefits and thus you start wasting your money. But the scare-mongering many doctors spread regarding kidney stones and broken bones and a toxicity level, almost completely simply is bollocks. Probably even 150 ngr/ml would still be okay for most people, if not all without previous health conditions, however here we are at levels where you most likely and by all we know so far have no additional health benefit, nothing I red and heard indicates there is any sense in going this high (as long as you have no specific health problems where the hospital would hang you on a drip and give you several hundred thousand IUs per day...). Everything can be exaggerated, and I think the exaggeration starts beyond 90-100 ngr/ml. Dont waste your money. Simple.

As always: if you take Vitamine D, take it with a lil' fat/oil, and absolutely also supplement Magnesium, and K2 is very recommended.


Alternatively to a Calcidiol test which in German costs around 28 to 30 Euros: have the Doc checking your blood calcium level. That costs around 50 cents over here. If your Calcium in blood is fine (very very low), your Vitamine D consummation maybe still is not be optimal, but at least what you currently take means no troubles for you in reagdr to "overdosing".
If there are no specific health problems but you have a doctor telling you you should not have more than 30 or 40 ngr/ml of Vit-D in your blood, and that there is no additional benefit - , stop talking but run and find another doctor.


I suspect most adult people are fine with 5000 or 10000 IU.


The pharma industry does not want you to be healthy. The industry wants customers, and customers are not healthy peope, but ill people.

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https://journals.plos.org/plosone/ar...l.pone.0268382


Or in other woards: dogs are it!