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Old 12-17-21, 12:43 AM   #9586
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Data is still coming in and studies vary about effectiveness rates but, the consistent agreement is that the MRNA type vaccines (Pfizer and Moderna) are the best, most effective shot as a booster, regardless of what your first and second doses were. Most panels (FDA/CDC, etc.) if given a choice prefer Pfizer but agree that the MRNA produces more antibodies to prevent infection.


IMO, Omicron will develop into something worse (next mutation). They are watching if it combines with Delta, FLU (H5N series) or the common cold virus and that could really spell trouble as typically cold & flu season peaks over the Christmas period. More people die from flu than any other disease.


Of note, back in 2019 when "Coronavirus" was off all the news channel's radar (too fixated on Trump), the CDC was watching a Flu spread in China that gave indications it could become a global pandemic. It didn't, as everyone went into lockdown but...China is starting to experience another avian flu (H5N6) this year and its spreading across that country. Let's hope we don't get another xmas present! Hello Sigma!
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Old 12-17-21, 07:21 AM   #9587
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After the Pass the microchip ! et voilà......

You said conspirator, poor idiot people, No thanks for me !

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Old 12-17-21, 08:07 AM   #9588
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German media quote The Lancet with that the vaccine Valneva is practically a dud when being used as a booster/third jab.

This results must be seen separately form using Valneva for the first two jabs. In this case it seems to do well - for the standards of two vaccinations.

If the first two jabs were Astrazenca, Moderna seems to work best as a booster.

If the first two jabs were BioNTech, then AZ, J&J and Moderna all are suited well as a booster. German results from earlier this month indicated that in this scenario the Moderna booster may have the edge over the other two boosters.

Mixing two vaccines for main vaccination and boostering seems to be the parole in any case.
So far all results indicate that in any case the mRNA vaccines perform best, and better than vector-based and protein-based vaccines.
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Wales must introduce further restrictions because “the storm of Omicron is coming our way”, First Minister Mark Drakeford says.

In a press conference at the same time, Nicola Sturgeon warns the "tsunami is starting to hit" Scotland.

From 27 December, nightclubs in Wales must close in response to the Omicron variant.

Social distancing will also be required in shops and workplaces.

In Scotland, people have already been advised to limit socialising to three households in the run-up to Christmas.

The UK reported a record 88,375 daily Covid cases on Thursday.

The Archbishop of Canterbury says he was "disappointed" to see a photo of a Tory staff party during lockdown last Christmas.

And President Biden warns unvaccinated Americans faces a winter of severe illness and death because of Omicron.
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Another sad record.

Today's number infected here in Denmark is 11194 or 5.04 % of those who was tested. Yesterday it was 9999.

In hospital 518, whereof 64 in ICU and 35 in Respirator.

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The pill developed for use after being infected needs to go on the market asap.
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I don't know what to make of this comment made on Danish tv in the news at 18
Following was said by
Allan Randrup Thomsen who's a Danish professor of experimental virology at the Faculty of Health Sciences at the University of Copenhagen.

"Lastly, I would like to keep the corona pass for restaurants and bars. Maybe not so much for the infection-suppressing effect, but to get those who want access to these benefits pressured into the fact that it is probably easier to get vaccinated, because we have an age group that needs a little push in that direction."

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He is right.


And there are so many other restrictions and enforced duties that everybody accepts without making a big tamtam about it. Seatbelts when driving a car. Several vaccinations at school. No alcohol below a certain age. Taxes.



Religious wars like about vaccination we have seen over seatbelts when they were introduced as mandatory in the 80s, btw. "They can take my life but not my freedom to drive." Seatbelts force the neck and boy into a body psoition that does damage to the backbone and could give you a round back at higher age. You could not escape from a burnign car in case of an accident. Hell, not one stupid joke that was too stupid to not use it as a serious argument against mandatory seatbelts in cars.



Yawn.


There are much more serious and damaging things the state enforces citizens to do, than to get vaccinated against Covid-19. Much more serious things. And not one word of protest.



Hilarious.
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Are you ready for the microchip too....!?
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Under my skin? No..


On the other hand, we do embrace heart pace makers if we need them, or not...
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are heart pace makers oppressive ?
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Are vaccines?


Heart pacemakers do not even serve the common good, do not improve protection of the other. Vaccines do.


I am all for certification of vaccination that cannot be forged. Just not via chips under the skin that in principle pave the way for abuse of the technology. Its not needed this way.
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He is right.


And there are so many other restrictions and enforced duties that everybody accepts without making a big tamtam about it. Seatbelts when driving a car. Several vaccinations at school. No alcohol below a certain age. Taxes.



Religious wars like about vaccination we have seen over seatbelts when they were introduced as mandatory in the 80s, btw. "They can take my life but not my freedom to drive." Seatbelts force the neck and boy into a body psoition that does damage to the backbone and could give you a round back at higher age. You could not escape from a burnign car in case of an accident. Hell, not one stupid joke that was too stupid to not use it as a serious argument against mandatory seatbelts in cars.



Yawn.


There are much more serious and damaging things the state enforces citizens to do, than to get vaccinated against Covid-19. Much more serious things. And not one word of protest.



Hilarious.
Here’s a news flash for all of the good Germans. There is absolutely no risk in involved by wearing seat belts or being refused alcohol. Whereas there IS RISK in taking unapproved still experimental vaccines it even says so on every single bottle of the stuff and in my opinion anyone who demands or mandates the use of experimental drugs is a bunch of unethical jackboot thugs who don’t dont know their arise from a hole the ground.

And dont even start lecturing to us how “rare” it is. In bio medicine there is no such thing as ‘rare” they say its only “the tip of the iceberg”.

The voluntary consent of the human subject is absolutely essential. This means that the person involved should have legal capacity to give consent; should be so situated as to be able to exercise free power of choice, without the intervention of any element of force, fraud, deceit, duress, overreaching, or other ulterior form of constraint or coercion; and should have sufficient knowledge and comprehension of the elements of the subject matter involved as to enable him to make an understanding and enlightened decision. - Nuremberg Code 1947

When the State begins AGAIN to view one group of people as undesirable and kicking them in the chest, denying the services, segregating them, belittling them and whatnot. But then help the loyal party members carry Christmas trees you got problems far worse than COVID. Amazing how fast some revert back to the old ways.

Btw, I’m travelling again stopped and got some waffles this morning. Crowded restaurant, good food, happy, commutative crowd and pretty waitresses but not one mention of COVID or anyone wearing masks or mandates.
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