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Old 03-21-15, 01:24 PM   #1
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Does anyone know what actually triggers the game to offer new sub for a player? Cant remember now, when was type VIIB offfered in Total Germany campaign? Is it date or mission objectives/tonnage related?
What about VIIC , has anyone played OHII enough to recive VIIC offer?

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Old 03-21-15, 02:53 PM   #2
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Hi vdr

Looking at the data below I think you will offered the change from VIIA to VIIb when you do your first end of patrol in Wilhelmshaven whatever date that is.

Cannot help regarding VIIC as I have never got that far in to the game yet.

Unless someone tells you I will get back to you as soon as I get one.

Peter

Save Games > Career Track.UPC file

[CareerTrack 1.CareerStatusSave 224]
ID=ID
Reason=CSS_PatrolEnd < Ended Patrol for re-supply
NameDisplayable=U-28
CurrentDate=1939-10-15 07:58:48
UniqueID=-7508757780346387427
Title=
Text=
EntryStatus=1
RenownGained=1060.000000
RatingGained=1.000000
TotalTonnageSunk=182197.000000
MaximumTonnageOnUnitSunk=16965.000000
EndBaseIDLink=F2Wilhelmshaven
EndFlotillaIDLink=2ndFlotilla

[CareerTrack 1.CareerStatusSave 225]
ID=ID
Reason=CSS_Award
NameDisplayable=MT_UboatIronCross2ndClass
CurrentDate=1939-10-15 07:58:48
UniqueID=0
Title=
Text=
EntryStatus=0
AwardReceived=MT_UboatIronCross2ndClass

[CareerTrack 1.CareerStatusSave 226]
ID=ID
Reason=CSS_OfferNewCommand < option offered to you in the bunker
NameDisplayable=
CurrentDate=1939-10-15 07:58:48
UniqueID=0
Title=
Text=
EntryStatus=0
OfferedUserPlayerUnitIDLink=VIIA < Ended patrol with VIIA

[CareerTrack 1.CareerStatusSave 227]
ID=ID
Reason=CSS_NewCommand
NameDisplayable=U-46
CurrentDate=1939-10-15 07:58:48
UniqueID=0
Title=
Text=
EntryStatus=0
UserPlayerInstanceDisplayableName=U-46
UserPlayerUnitIDLink=VIIB < Offered a new boat
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Hi vdr

Looking at the data below I think you will offered the change from VIIA to VIIb when you do your first end of patrol in Wilhelmshaven whatever date that is.

Cannot help regarding VIIC as I have never got that far in to the game yet.

Unless someone tells you I will get back to you as soon as I get one.

Peter

Save Games > Career Track.UPC file

[CareerTrack 1.CareerStatusSave 224]
ID=ID
Reason=CSS_PatrolEnd < Ended Patrol for re-supply
NameDisplayable=U-28
CurrentDate=1939-10-15 07:58:48
UniqueID=-7508757780346387427
Title=
Text=
EntryStatus=1
RenownGained=1060.000000
RatingGained=1.000000
TotalTonnageSunk=182197.000000
MaximumTonnageOnUnitSunk=16965.000000
EndBaseIDLink=F2Wilhelmshaven
EndFlotillaIDLink=2ndFlotilla

[CareerTrack 1.CareerStatusSave 225]
ID=ID
Reason=CSS_Award
NameDisplayable=MT_UboatIronCross2ndClass
CurrentDate=1939-10-15 07:58:48
UniqueID=0
Title=
Text=
EntryStatus=0
AwardReceived=MT_UboatIronCross2ndClass

[CareerTrack 1.CareerStatusSave 226]
ID=ID
Reason=CSS_OfferNewCommand < option offered to you in the bunker
NameDisplayable=
CurrentDate=1939-10-15 07:58:48
UniqueID=0
Title=
Text=
EntryStatus=0
OfferedUserPlayerUnitIDLink=VIIA < Ended patrol with VIIA

[CareerTrack 1.CareerStatusSave 227]
ID=ID
Reason=CSS_NewCommand
NameDisplayable=U-46
CurrentDate=1939-10-15 07:58:48
UniqueID=0
Title=
Text=
EntryStatus=0
UserPlayerInstanceDisplayableName=U-46
UserPlayerUnitIDLink=VIIB < Offered a new boat
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Old 03-21-15, 09:33 PM   #4
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Does anyone know what actually triggers the game to offer new sub for a player? Cant remember now, when was type VIIB offfered in Total Germany campaign? Is it date or mission objectives/tonnage related?
What about VIIC , has anyone played OHII enough to recive VIIC offer?
I got the offer of a new boat (type VIIB) after completing the first Eastern British Coastal Waters/ Scapa raid patrol even despite receiving a radio message from Bdu that stated Gunther Prien was claiming the credit and fame for sinking "Royal Oak", when it was really our boat that had just killed it!

From a previous career if I remember correctly, you get offered the VIIC at the start of "Happy Times" after you are transferred to Lorient.
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Does anyone know what actually triggers the game to offer new sub for a player? Cant remember now, when was type VIIB offfered in Total Germany campaign? Is it date or mission objectives/tonnage related?
What about VIIC , has anyone played OHII enough to recive VIIC offer?
The campaigns trigger the new sub. It is date and mission objective completed related.
Post #2 of the Open Horizons thread tells you when you get a new sub, etc. I can not find the word "total germany".
Yes, I have received a VIIC.
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Old 04-08-15, 01:29 PM   #6
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I'll reactivate this thread and reformulate may question a bit...
Does anyone know which file (including gamesave) should be edited in order to artificially trigger new sub offer?
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Got it ...New sub offer is dependable of player's rating showed in CareerTrack.upc file and it hasn't anything to do with mission tonnage objectives. I'm not really sure how rating is actually earned except by sinking capital ships(1 point)...Patrol without tonnage will give you -1 point.

In one patrol the game actually gave me -3 rating points for 3 neutral ships?!

Code:
[CareerTrack 1]
ID=IDCareerTrack1

[CareerTrack 1.CareerStatusHeader]
ID=ID
UserPlayerNameDisplayable=Cpt.Shurz
CareerOptionsDate=1939-08-31 13:00:00

[CareerTrack 1.CareerStatusLast]
ID=ID
Reason=CSS_LastStatus
NameDisplayable=NULL
CurrentDate=1939-12-28 17:33:25
UniqueID=3957285610582654
Title=NULL
Text=NULL
EntryStatus=0
PlayerRankAchieved=Captain-Rank-10
PlayerCurrentLastPromotionDateTime=1939-08-31 13:00:00
CurrentFlotilla=2ndFlotilla
CurrentFlotillaBase=F2Wilhelmshaven
CurrentSDepartureDescription=979352,6.42534e+006,180.777
CurrentUPCFlotillaUserPlayerUnitType=F2VIIA
CurrentDifficulty=Realistic
PlayerCurrentRenown=960.000000
PlayerCurrentRating=1.000000
PlayerHighestRating=0.000000
PlayerPatrolsCompleted=0.000000
PlayerTonnageSunk=219407.000000
PlayerWarshipsTonnageSunk=42204.000000
PlayerMerchantsTonnageSunk=24214.000000
PlayerShipsSunk=0.000000
PlayerCurrentMedals=NULL
CrewMembersCurrentMedalsRepository=NULL
CrewMembersCurrentPromotionsRepository=1
PlayerCurrentObjectiveCode=South-Indian-Ocean
PlayerDefaultObjectives=ID1
PlayerCurrentObjectives=ID1
PatrolStartDateTime=1939-12-28 17:33:25
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Hi Vecko

I tested this for a long time and could not edit the career rating to force a new boat.
I really wanted to do this for some campaigns in OHII, but could not.

the best I could do was to preset which boats are available for each campaign (stock issue boat). If the players ratings are too low, they will not get the boat.
If the player started the campaign as the start of their career (silentotto) they did get the boat as it was the only one available
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Hi Vecko

I tested this for a long time and could not edit the career rating to force a new boat.
I really wanted to do this for some campaigns in OHII, but could not.

the best I could do was to preset which boats are available for each campaign (stock issue boat). If the players ratings are too low, they will not get the boat.
If the player started the campaign as the start of their career (silentotto) they did get the boat as it was the only one available
Yes , I realized that too when I passed from HT to WA campaign withT type VIIB. When I checked my rating it was -16 because I was skipping patrols... Luckily, we now know how to artificially trigger new sub offer, it's ace rating (4 rating points and more)...
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Hi vdr

Looking at the data below I think you will offered the change from VIIA to VIIb when you do your first end of patrol in Wilhelmshaven whatever date that is.

Cannot help regarding VIIC as I have never got that far in to the game yet.

Unless someone tells you I will get back to you as soon as I get one.

Peter

Save Games > Career Track.UPC file

[CareerTrack 1.CareerStatusSave 224]
ID=ID
Reason=CSS_PatrolEnd < Ended Patrol for re-supply
NameDisplayable=U-28
CurrentDate=1939-10-15 07:58:48
UniqueID=-7508757780346387427
Title=
Text=
EntryStatus=1
RenownGained=1060.000000
RatingGained=1.000000
TotalTonnageSunk=182197.000000
MaximumTonnageOnUnitSunk=16965.000000
EndBaseIDLink=F2Wilhelmshaven
EndFlotillaIDLink=2ndFlotilla

[CareerTrack 1.CareerStatusSave 225]
ID=ID
Reason=CSS_Award
NameDisplayable=MT_UboatIronCross2ndClass
CurrentDate=1939-10-15 07:58:48
UniqueID=0
Title=
Text=
EntryStatus=0
AwardReceived=MT_UboatIronCross2ndClass

[CareerTrack 1.CareerStatusSave 226]
ID=ID
Reason=CSS_OfferNewCommand < option offered to you in the bunker
NameDisplayable=
CurrentDate=1939-10-15 07:58:48
UniqueID=0
Title=
Text=
EntryStatus=0
OfferedUserPlayerUnitIDLink=VIIA < Ended patrol with VIIA

[CareerTrack 1.CareerStatusSave 227]
ID=ID
Reason=CSS_NewCommand
NameDisplayable=U-46
CurrentDate=1939-10-15 07:58:48
UniqueID=0
Title=
Text=
EntryStatus=0
UserPlayerInstanceDisplayableName=U-46
UserPlayerUnitIDLink=VIIB < Offered a new boat
Do you remember by any chance which ship did you sank in that particular patrol?

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