Steve's Models - Page 61

Sailor Steve · 07-25-15, 03:39 PM

After more than a month away from it I might finally get to finish the BE.12. I finally managed to order an engine, but when it arrived it was the wrong one. It wasn't his fault. It seems that thirty years ago when they made these someone mislabeled the package, and that was the one he sent me. He said he'd check again, but it's been weeks and I haven't heard back. I finally ordered an old Airfix RE.8 kit for cheap. The kit is pretty bad, but all I need are the cylinders. I can fix the rest.

Here is the BE.12 nose before the work starts.

Sailor Steve · 07-25-15, 04:16 PM

First step is to cut away some of the nose to accommodate the two extra rows of cylinders. I couldn't use the nose of the RE.8 because it's a completely different shape. The whole thing is going to have to be built up from scratch.

One of the cylinder banks just sitting there to gauge the proper length.

Sailor Steve · 07-26-15, 04:31 PM

Yesterday I cut a new firewall out of very thin plastic and glued it in place, after which I glued four pieces of thick plastic together to make the new engine block. I had to stop there since I used a regular plastic cement, which takes a long time to dry.

Here is the basic start point. Next to it is the V8 engine block from the vacuform BE.2c kit.

Sailor Steve · 07-26-15, 07:04 PM

Engine block sanded to shape and installed.

MGR1 · 07-26-15, 08:08 PM

Not sure if you know about this, Steve, but Airfix have announced a new tool Eindecker and a completely new Be.2c in 1/72:

http://www.airfix.com/uk-en/news/wor...nes-at-airfix/

Both are due out in the UK at the beginning of 2016, so maybe a month or two later for the US.

Mike.

Sailor Steve · 07-26-15, 08:32 PM

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No, I did not know. The descriptions sound good, the 3D models look great, and I am very excited! Especially the digitally sculpted pilots. Given todays modelers' penchant for display without pilots, I'm glad they included them at all. There are some very nice vac models of the BE.2, mostly the earlier A and B models, but no injection-molded BE.2c, ever.

Thanks for the update.

Sailor Steve · 07-30-15, 11:22 AM

I took one day off, and have spent the last three days doing five minutes' work once every hour. I puttied up all the holes around the engine. Let it dry for an hour. Sanded it down. Looked at all the dings and dents. Applied more putty. Let it dry for an hour. Sanded it down. Applied a coat of primer. Let that dry for an hour. Looked at the imperfections. Applied more putty. Let it dry. Sanded it down. Applied primer. Lather, rinse, repeat.

After three days of this it's finally where I want it.

Sailor Steve · 07-30-15, 01:45 PM

Cylinder banks and intake installed.

Sailor Steve · 08-01-15, 07:56 PM

Exhaust stacks mounted, engine painted. The BE.2 and RE.8 had the stacks run to the rear, so that's the way the kit items are. Only the BE.12 had them run to the middle. I had to make these out of brass wire. It took a couple of days.

Sailor Steve · 08-05-15, 07:02 PM

Three days of rigging, detailing and painting, and the BE.12 is done.

Starboard close-up showing V-12 engine and hand-made exhaust stacks, plus the Vickers gun mounted where the pilot can't reach it.

Propeller by Lang. It's the old Airfix RE.8 kit propeller, and I didn't try to fix it at all.

em2nought · 08-06-15, 04:28 PM

The scratch built engine came out pretty sweet!

Sailor Steve · 08-06-15, 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by em2nought

The scratch built engine came out pretty sweet!

I would have been happier if I could have got the Aero Club cylinders and exhaust, but overall I'm satisfied.

Sailor Steve · 08-06-15, 05:26 PM

My next project is going to be a major kitbash/scratchbuild. It's the Siemens-Schuckert E.I, a very late and very rare eindecker.

The body was wider and of a different shape than any other German monoplane, and will be modified from an old and very poor vac kit of the Pfalz E.I. The wings were close enough to the Fokker's that I'll be able to make those do with just a little reshaping. The tail planes were completely different from any others and will have to be built from scratch. The landing gear are also unique and will also have to be scratch-built.

The engine and propeller are something completely different. The Siemens-Halske SH.I was an attempt to negate the torque and centrifugal force inherent in a rotary by having the engine and propeller turn in opposite directions. I'm not sure I can manage to do it in 1/72 scale, and if I fail I'm good with that. My inspiration is from someone else who made it work.
http://www.dishmodels.ru/gshow.htm?p=9420

Unfortunately even with an online translator he doesn't actually explain how he did it. I hope to consult some local model railroad experts about the ins and outs of making tiny gearboxes.

This is where it starts.

Buddahaid · 08-10-15, 09:18 AM

That came out nicely Steve. That link to the Siemens model build is pretty amazingly fine detail for such small detail. I have only a vague idea how he made the counter-rotation gearbox from the blurry photos though. Ah I see it was a link to a good photo.

Sailor Steve · 08-12-15, 01:42 AM

I have no idea at all how he did it. One poster pointed out that on the SH.III the crankshaft rotated in the opposite direction but the propeller itself was fixed to the engine. It seems that for all his skill he actually got it wrong.

07-25-15, 03:39 PM	#901
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	After more than a month away from it I might finally get to finish the BE.12. I finally managed to order an engine, but when it arrived it was the wrong one. It wasn't his fault. It seems that thirty years ago when they made these someone mislabeled the package, and that was the one he sent me. He said he'd check again, but it's been weeks and I haven't heard back. I finally ordered an old Airfix RE.8 kit for cheap. The kit is pretty bad, but all I need are the cylinders. I can fix the rest. Here is the BE.12 nose before the work starts. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

07-25-15, 04:16 PM	#902
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	First step is to cut away some of the nose to accommodate the two extra rows of cylinders. I couldn't use the nose of the RE.8 because it's a completely different shape. The whole thing is going to have to be built up from scratch. One of the cylinder banks just sitting there to gauge the proper length. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

07-26-15, 04:31 PM	#903
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	Yesterday I cut a new firewall out of very thin plastic and glued it in place, after which I glued four pieces of thick plastic together to make the new engine block. I had to stop there since I used a regular plastic cement, which takes a long time to dry. Here is the basic start point. Next to it is the V8 engine block from the vacuform BE.2c kit. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

07-26-15, 07:04 PM	#904
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	Engine block sanded to shape and installed. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

07-26-15, 08:08 PM	#905
MGR1 Grey Wolf Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Aberdeen, Scotland, United Kingdom Posts: 957 Downloads: 252 Uploads: 0	Not sure if you know about this, Steve, but Airfix have announced a new tool Eindecker and a completely new Be.2c in 1/72: http://www.airfix.com/uk-en/news/wor...nes-at-airfix/ Both are due out in the UK at the beginning of 2016, so maybe a month or two later for the US. Mike. __________________ "I am the battleship Jean Bart. This name originates from a certain 'respected' privateer... Yes? You want to know what privateers are? Hmph, they are pirates that rob openly under the banner of their country." Jean Bart from the mobile game Azur Lane.

07-26-15, 08:32 PM	#906
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	.................... No, I did not know. The descriptions sound good, the 3D models look great, and I am very excited! Especially the digitally sculpted pilots. Given todays modelers' penchant for display without pilots, I'm glad they included them at all. There are some very nice vac models of the BE.2, mostly the earlier A and B models, but no injection-molded BE.2c, ever. Thanks for the update. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo Last edited by Sailor Steve; 07-26-15 at 08:41 PM.

07-30-15, 11:22 AM	#907
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	I took one day off, and have spent the last three days doing five minutes' work once every hour. I puttied up all the holes around the engine. Let it dry for an hour. Sanded it down. Looked at all the dings and dents. Applied more putty. Let it dry for an hour. Sanded it down. Applied a coat of primer. Let that dry for an hour. Looked at the imperfections. Applied more putty. Let it dry. Sanded it down. Applied primer. Lather, rinse, repeat. After three days of this it's finally where I want it. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

07-30-15, 01:45 PM	#908
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	Cylinder banks and intake installed. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

08-01-15, 07:56 PM	#909
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	Exhaust stacks mounted, engine painted. The BE.2 and RE.8 had the stacks run to the rear, so that's the way the kit items are. Only the BE.12 had them run to the middle. I had to make these out of brass wire. It took a couple of days. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

08-05-15, 07:02 PM	#910
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	Three days of rigging, detailing and painting, and the BE.12 is done. Starboard close-up showing V-12 engine and hand-made exhaust stacks, plus the Vickers gun mounted where the pilot can't reach it. Propeller by Lang. It's the old Airfix RE.8 kit propeller, and I didn't try to fix it at all. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

08-06-15, 04:28 PM	#911
em2nought Ocean Warrior Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 3,287 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	The scratch built engine came out pretty sweet! __________________ ISRAEL: Essentially "The Alamo" 24/7, 365 since 1947

08-06-15, 05:26 PM	#913
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	My next project is going to be a major kitbash/scratchbuild. It's the Siemens-Schuckert E.I, a very late and very rare eindecker. The body was wider and of a different shape than any other German monoplane, and will be modified from an old and very poor vac kit of the Pfalz E.I. The wings were close enough to the Fokker's that I'll be able to make those do with just a little reshaping. The tail planes were completely different from any others and will have to be built from scratch. The landing gear are also unique and will also have to be scratch-built. The engine and propeller are something completely different. The Siemens-Halske SH.I was an attempt to negate the torque and centrifugal force inherent in a rotary by having the engine and propeller turn in opposite directions. I'm not sure I can manage to do it in 1/72 scale, and if I fail I'm good with that. My inspiration is from someone else who made it work. http://www.dishmodels.ru/gshow.htm?p=9420 Unfortunately even with an online translator he doesn't actually explain how he did it. I hope to consult some local model railroad experts about the ins and outs of making tiny gearboxes. This is where it starts. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

08-10-15, 09:18 AM	#914
Buddahaid Shark above Space Chicken Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 8,566 Downloads: 160 Uploads: 0	That came out nicely Steve. That link to the Siemens model build is pretty amazingly fine detail for such small detail. I have only a vague idea how he made the counter-rotation gearbox from the blurry photos though. Ah I see it was a link to a good photo. __________________ "However vast the darkness, we must provide our own light." Stanley Kubrick "Tomorrow belongs to those who can hear it coming." David Bowie

08-12-15, 01:42 AM	#915
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	I have no idea at all how he did it. One poster pointed out that on the SH.III the crankshaft rotated in the opposite direction but the propeller itself was fixed to the engine. It seems that for all his skill he actually got it wrong. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo