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Old 05-26-22, 10:58 AM   #4231
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Supply route to Severodonetsk restored: Ukrainian troops have successfully counterattacked and removed the Russian forces on the Bakhmut - Lysychansk road and have started moving supplies on the road again. This "Road of Life" is not the only route, but it is the best one and shortest supply route the Ukraine army has right now.

This is important because Russia has activated its reserves to make several BTG's for this offensive this failure means they gone have much higher losses to take Lysychansk that they now hardy can replace in short time. This road is a must capture for Russia and a must hold for the #Ukraine. If #Russia is able to re-capture & build strong defenses, Ukraine will likely be unable to take it back anytime soon. This leaves 1 well-built supply route on the Siversk to Lysychans'k road. Russia still has excellent observation and can fire artillery at vehicles passing along the Siversk to Lysychans'k road & Bakhmut - Lysychansk road. This means that all Ukrainian resupplies will be under fire by #RUAF for miles as they pass in front of the front lines.
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Ukraine denies any agreement where they have to give a way part of their land for peace.

So far it's only France who has come up with this idea which Macron have given to Zelenskyj who of course rejected this idea-land for peace.

Now since we have this problem with Russia is blocking the port in the Black sea and nor EU or NATO is interested in a conflict with Russia to get the hand of the million of ton wheat.

I can't get the feeling out of my head that EU and NATO will press Ukraine and Zelenskyj to give up land for peace. Or get no more weapon.

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Old 05-26-22, 11:25 AM   #4233
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Ukraine denies any agreement where they have to give a way part of their land for peace.

So far it's only France who has come up with this idea which Macron have given to Zelenskyj who of course rejected this idea-land for peace.

Now since we have this problem with Russia is blocking the port in the Black sea and nor EU or NATO is interested in a conflict with Russia to get the hand of the million of ton wheat.

I can't get the feeling out of my head that EU and NATO will press Ukraine and Zelenskyj to give up land for peace. Or get no more weapon.

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Nato with this US administration will not demand this and EU is not only Germany/France who decides, see also no majority for it in the present. Blocking the Black Sea is to be solved if there is a stop to the bombing of rail/roads other countries at the Black Sea can ship that grain and can also be transported via Europe there are already countries to offer this.

We’re living in the of age of the weakest and petty-minded decision-makers in the West. “Yeah, let’s have an informal agreement not to donate tanks and jets to Ukraine, we don’t want to provoke Putin.” To provoke into frelling what? Attacking NATO as he struggles to take Liman?
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Old 05-26-22, 11:51 AM   #4234
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New details are coming to light about incredibly daring resupply missions that were flown by Ukrainian helicopter crews right into the heart of the fighting in the occupied seaport city of Mariupol. Flying two at a time and once four at a time, Ukrainian Mi-8 Hip helicopter crews braved dense Russian air defense and enemy aircraft concentrated in and around Mariupol to deliver desperately needed supplies and fresh troops to the defenders of the besieged Azovstal steel plant.

Of the 16 total helicopters involved, two were destroyed, Ukraine Brig. Gen. Kyrylo Budanov, the head of Defense Intelligence of Ukraine, told The War Zone in an exclusive series of interviews. Another helicopter was destroyed coming to the rescue of one of the downed Hips.

“The special operation was planned and performed by Defense Intelligence of the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine,” said Budanov, offering previously unreported details of those dangerous missions... https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zon...upied-mariupol
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Nato with this US administration will not demand this and EU is not only Germany/France who decides, see also no majority for it in the present. Blocking the Black Sea is to be solved if there is a stop to the bombing of rail/roads other countries at the Black Sea can ship that grain and can also be transported via Europe there are already countries to offer this.

We’re living in the of age of the weakest and petty-minded decision-makers in the West. “Yeah, let’s have an informal agreement not to donate tanks and jets to Ukraine, we don’t want to provoke Putin.” To provoke into frelling what? Attacking NATO as he struggles to take Liman?
Some days ago they said in the news that we(Europe/West) had enough wheat and some other farm related stuff for about 8 weeks. Then we will be without wheat..until our own farmer have harvest their wheat. And this will first be in the middle of aug.

With this in mind I thought-Will EU and/or Nato put pressure on Zelenskyj when we approach this deadline in around 8 weeks from now.

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Old 05-26-22, 01:27 PM   #4236
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Some days ago they said in the news that we(Europe/West) had enough wheat and some other farm related stuff for about 8 weeks. Then we will be without wheat..until our own farmer have harvest their wheat. And this will first be in the middle of aug.

With this in mind I thought-Will EU and/or Nato put pressure on Zelenskyj when we approach this deadline in around 8 weeks from now.

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Europe does not import grain, it grows enough itself
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European countries import and export certain, varying grains. There are many different grains. 2019 and 2020 Europe alltogether even turned into net importers of grain, due to droughs. I have no info on 2021, however. Next year's harvests will become... interesting. Lack of fertilizers and seeds is the stumbling block.

We should immediately stop farming crops and plants for fuel production. It sounds like a stupid idea because it IS a stupid idea when the ratio between population size and available farming soil is like it is in Europe and the effectively usable size of famrign soil is beign drmataically reduced due to turning to ecological farming, which almost halves the avaialble areas. And they say they even want and must compensate for the losses of exports from Ukraine and Russia to Africa...


They want way too much, and at the totally wrong time. I wonder whether they learn their mistake before or just after they have collapsed evertyhing. Oh that precious tempting sweet ideology, the great persuader...
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Any bets that once Russia stabilizes and reinforces the borders of the Donbas region they will again turn their attention to Kyiv via Belarus?
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Any bets that once Russia stabilizes and reinforces the borders of the Donbas region they will again turn their attention to Kyiv via Belarus?

I wouldn't bet against that happening.
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Europe does not, since 2019 the EU has been a net importer of grain, and before that it has only been a net exporter of grain in eleven years of it's existence.
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Russian losses in Donbass may be high, but that of Ukraine are high as well, and their reserves are limited. Two days ago I red that they - the Ukrainians - sometimes send in a unit, say a company or batallion, and have 50% casualties within 24 hours. The battles there are described as repeating the combat seen in WW2.

What the Russians lack in other things, they more than compensate with artillery, of which they have aplenty. For them, artillery is the Queen of the Battlefield, whereas in the West agility and mobility is being prioritized. What Russia lacks in subtlety and agility, it makes up for by sheer firepower and artillery's brute force. Add to this missiles and air popwer, of which they now seem to make better use. To me it currently looks like as if in the Donbass and Luhansk the Ukraine is loosing by attrition.

And Germany and some others play wordgames about what the difference is between heavy weapons and armoured vehciles and tanks, and when a vehicle is an armoured vehicles or already more a tank, while the US delivers more APCs and howitzers and Germany says NATO agrees to deliver none of these. Bubble-Olaf at his best, spreading nothing but confusion amongst enemies and "friends" alike. He is so pathetic.

Germany and France do not want the ukraine to "win", but they want it to accept a land for "peace" deal that allows Russia to save its face, thjat obviously isthe German priority, no matter what Scholz claims differently - I do not believe him one word. From his delegation at Davbos it was voiced that German industr yis so happy that lgovbalizaiton will continue afetr the war and that we need to talk with Russia again. Business as before, that means. It makes me sick. And as some newspaper wrote today: "der Sentimental-Pazifismus der SPD". Gisgusting.

News from the German defence ministry. In absence of the defence "ministress", her state secretary revealed to a stunned public two or three days ago that in the German defence policy currently "diversity policies and their implementation" are at the very focus, and that one is working hard on them.


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Thank God there are no important things to work hard on currently. Timetables for weapon deliveries, for example, and re-arming the Bundeswehr. Here we have a defence minster who is really in control of her house! I sleep better since I know that she is guarding our peaceful sleep at night.
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Stabilizes and reinforces with what? 60-year-old soldiers?
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America’s Ukraine Hypocrisy (2017)
"But the historical record shows that Washington has meddled in the political affairs of dozens of countries— including many democracies. An egregious example occurred in Ukraine during the Euromaidan Revolution of 2014."
https://www.cato.org/commentary/amer...aine-hypocrisy


The reason for US 2014 coup in Ukraine,


Yanukovich kills Ukraine's bid to join NATO (2010)
"Russia-leaning president Viktor Yanukovich has scrapped Ukraine's plans to join the Western military alliance, dissolving the commissions on European and NATO integration."
https://www.csmonitor.com/World/Euro...d-to-join-NATO

Ukraine Says ’No’ to NATO
However, Yanukovych’s move to ban Ukraine from joining NATO is not without a base of public support. A September 2009 survey by the Pew Research Center’s Global Attitudes Project, found that half of Ukrainians (51%) opposed their country’s admission to NATO, while only 28% favored such a step. Moreover, given the opposition to membership, it is not surprising that about half of Ukrainians (51%) gave NATO an unfavorable rating.
https://www.pewresearch.org/global/2...ys-no-to-nato/


The 2014 American Coup in Ukraine (2020)



The NATO Conquest of Eastern Europe (2020)

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What a drivel.



Btw, voluntarily choosen free membership is not the same like getting conquered. Nato conquered nobody in the East. The states there voluntarily fled from a dangerous oppressor.
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