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Old 01-16-09, 08:26 PM   #16
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Just saw this and had my son help me correct the program. Try it now.

Sh4ToStellarium.

Thanks for the info on Stellarium, Pisces. The date is raw input so it will actually take whatever date separator you use. I saw the update to version 0.10 but haven't tried it yet.

If there are any other problems let me know and I'll see what I can do.

Stay safe over there, panzerschutze12ss.
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Old 06-14-09, 10:35 PM   #17
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6SJ17GT, are your files still available somewhere?

Is anyone having trouble using the latest version of Stellarium (0.10.2) for navigating with SH3/4? I notice in the Stellarium\scripts\ folder the startup.sts is now startup.ssc and I'm wondering if this is why Stellarium refuses to start when I launch my SH4toStellarium.py.
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Old 06-15-09, 11:22 AM   #18
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Probably, Stellarium got a different scripting engine with version 0.10.something, iirc. Or the old one was ripped out but the new one isn't ready yet. I did read in the latest manual of Stellarium that it can be started with the required commandline options directly:

See table, PDF page 27:
http://ovh.dl.sourceforge.net/source...e-0.10.2-1.pdf

Perhaps someone can make a small program similar to SH4toStellarium.exe that retrieves the neccesary data from the savegame files and runs Stellarium with those --longitude --latitude --sky-date --sky-time parameters. Prefferably for both Sh3 and Sh4. Next month I should have more time to give it a shot
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Old 06-16-09, 05:56 PM   #19
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I see this got resurrected.

Just checked Filefront and I see my files disappeared, I'll get them up soon and post an update. It pays to keep backups on the hard drive.

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Old 06-16-09, 06:05 PM   #20
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Files are up.
http://hosted.filefront.com/6sj7gt/

I'll work on getting something working with Stellarium10.

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Old 09-28-09, 12:25 PM   #21
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Does this all work with SH3 too ? I'm looking to again attempt manual navigation with SH3.

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Old 09-28-09, 03:15 PM   #22
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Yes, it does.
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Old 09-28-09, 03:47 PM   #23
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Originally Posted by Doolan View Post
Glad to see I'm not alone!

Guess who just purchased a cheap plastic training sextant...
Hey dont knock them, I used one to win a few sailboat races That was back in the day before reliable GPS. They were short races only a day or two and the plastic was good enough and pretty damn accurate. I did some shots and noon sights with each and they were within a few arc minutes/seconds of one another. I did miss the optics of the real thing though.

I was scared to death to take a 'real' sextant on board if it was lost or broken I would never forgive myself.

Besides if we got really lost just head west youll hit florida sooner or later

On the original topic this looks like fascinating work and Im a gonna look into it. I'm a bit afraid of having some predispositions as to 'how it should be' but Ill keep an open mind.

Very nice work guys !

ps; Stellarium is awsome
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Old 10-28-09, 01:03 PM   #24
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Hi all,

Just to inform you that the links are not working...

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Old 10-28-09, 01:26 PM   #25
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There are worksheets in in the back of the almanacs which you can find at the link he gave in a few posts back. But yeah, without a readme or tutorial it's pretty hard to grasp the technique.

Did you pm 6SJ7GT about reuploading?
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Old 10-28-09, 07:42 PM   #26
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So....are all the thing needed for implementing this mod in the 2 files called SH4tocellestial and the almanacs or do I need more? I seem to recall that there were more needed when this was made for SHIII
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Old 10-28-09, 08:45 PM   #27
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Does this also delete the use of "ctrl+left click" to center the sub position on the mouse in the nav map?

Edit: I would know if the links were up. :P
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Old 10-29-09, 03:18 PM   #28
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You still need to download the most important thing, the Stellarium planetarium program. The small sh4tostellarium program (on the filefront page) takes your location from a savegame, and sets up a config file for Stellarium for the right observation location. In Stellarium you measure the celestial object heights (altitudes) above the local horizon. Then with those numbers you must do some numbercrunching with the tables and worksheets in the back of the almanac. Then you can plot the results on the map. There is nothing that needs to be changed to Sh3/4 files. Except if you do want to hide the sub icon. But that is not required. Also no camera tweaks or interface modifications. Ctrl-click also works if you need it.
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Old 10-30-09, 03:27 AM   #29
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@picses

Okay, thank you very much for your reply
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Old 11-23-09, 01:03 PM   #30
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thanks you all for developing this method! but two questions remain:

1) mike's tutorial is no longer available and although I'm a navigation fan, I'm rather a bloody beginner and no chance for me to do star sights without a tutorial

2) when using SH3, what time to I enter (when using don1reed's python script)? SH3 shows two times, "base/GMT" and "local time".

Thanks!

btw: Stellarium 0.9.0 is the version which works for me for 0.10.x doesn't support sts scripts and v0.9.1 crashes at start.
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