Enigma: Hotel Da Volta

EAST · 12-07-07, 01:26 PM

Update posting:
http://www.deepsix-online.com/forums...php?f=14&t=144

Monterey · 12-07-07, 08:17 PM

Bump.

Sonarman · 12-08-07, 09:47 AM

Perhaps it would be a good idea to ask the Neal/the moderators to create a seperate Enigma forum as it is now an on going project again. This may help the visibility/sales of the addon and to develop more interest in "Sink the Hood".

Monterey · 12-08-07, 10:25 PM

If anyone doesn't have Enigma, you can still find it here...
http://www.subsim.com/store.html#enigma

EAST · 12-09-07, 12:44 AM

We've also added some additional options (Gold box, Limited German Box, Runtime Only) http://hoteldavolta.warfleet.net

The Enigma · 01-01-08, 06:50 AM

[EDIT]
I've removed some of my lines here, since I was wrong.
I got from East background info that helped taking away my concerns about
my order and the companies involved.[/EDIT]

I've did an online order for both the classical game as for the 'Hotel Da Volta' Add-on
for Enigma: Rising Tide.

I received an e-mail stating that they are checking my credit card and when all is OK
they will send me a link to download the software.

Since then, I've haven't heared anything of them.

I've send them 2 more emails asking for an update on the status of my order,
but nada - nothing - no replies.

Does anybody else in here have the same experience with the contact address
<<chuckbush at hotmail dot com>>??

[Line removed] ...(See my comment above)..... [/Line removed]

Hitman · 01-01-08, 08:33 AM

If your credit card hasn't been charged yet, then there is nothing except delay. It doesn't indicate by itself lack of honesty or anything else, but may be some logistic problems.

In any case, IIRC, EAST stated that no credit card would be charged for the expansion until the minimum number of pre-orders had been reached, so it might be just that, your pre-order has been taken but no release has been done yet. I suppose EAST will read this and reply, but you can also PM him here or post at the official TA games forums :hmm:

The Enigma · 01-01-08, 03:10 PM

Hi Hitman,

Thank you for the feedback.

I've tried to contact them by using their email address as used for the order.
I will also try to send him a PM.

EAST · 01-01-08, 04:55 PM

Because HDV gets rid of all the security for Enigma, we have set a target number of pre-orders before releasing the software. This is mentioned on the HDV website and when you place your order. Your card will not have been charged; however if for any reason it has been, please let me know asap and I'll see that it is removed.

Regarding the Add-On:

The subsim market has changed a lot since Enigma was released, from no new games in release to 2 SH games on the simulation side; both still being supported by modding communities; Battlestations Midway & Navy Field on the "game" side of the market, and many other independent efforts out there.

While everything we've put into HDV thus far is very good, it does appear that interest isn't very high. We've been getting some feedback on it and are currently discussing some options.

--East

The Enigma · 01-01-08, 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EAST

Because HDV gets rid of all the security for Enigma, we have set a target number of pre-orders before releasing the software. This is mentioned on the HDV website and when you place your order. Your card will not have been charged; however if for any reason it has been, please let me know asap and I'll see that it is removed.

Regarding the Add-On:

The subsim market has changed a lot since Enigma was released, from no new games in release to 2 SH games on the simulation side; both still being supported by modding communities; Battlestations Midway & Navy Field on the "game" side of the market, and many other independent efforts out there.

While everything we've put into HDV thus far is very good, it does appear that interest isn't very high. We've been getting some feedback on it and are currently discussing some options.

--East

Hi East,

I'm aware of the preorder target numbers for HDV.
But I've also ordered the game itself.
Do I understand you correctly? Must I wait for "Enigma: The rising tide" as well?
If yes, then there is the cause of the misunderstanding.
I did nowhere read that E-TRT was part of the same 'waiting rule'.

Because of the replies here, I feel less worried.
This all could be clarified in a simple mail I guess.
I only wonder why you guys didn't respond on those.

So I shall wait until enough preorders have been made.

Thanks for the feedback.

EAST · 01-01-08, 05:37 PM

I don't get to see the orders.

I think that Resurgent was closed during the last week for the holidays. I don't think you have to wait for HDV to get the other software. Unless you ordered the runtime, that goes with the Add-On and can't be sent stand-alone. I imagine you should get an email from Resurgent Thursday or Friday.

Sonarman · 01-02-08, 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EAST

it does appear that interest isn't very high. We've been getting some feedback on it and are currently discussing some options.
--East

Perhaps you could get Neal/one of the mods to do a review of the addon showing all of the new features and ask for a dedicated Enigma forum at Subsim so that Enigma/HDV does not keep geting pushed down the topic list in "Classic Subsims".

Sonarman · 01-03-08, 11:43 AM

I was hoping for LAN play in HDV, I know you'd mentioned including it in an earlier post about a future ERT patch, it would be great if that was included and that would probably generate more sales for ERT itself.

EAST · 01-05-08, 12:07 AM

Noted. You aren't the first with that suggestion. It is under consideration. While we're at it. Anything else that the community feels is seriously needed in the add-on, please post it here. We haven't made a final determination yet; this means nothing is off the table.

--E

Sonarman · 01-05-08, 12:48 PM

It may be too big an addition for the addon but for me land and ports have always been the main things missing from ERT.

Don't know if anyone here ever played FTCII (Fleet Tactical Command 2 PC (ega) & QL ) In that multiplayer LAN only game each player had a fleet under his command including frigates subs and merchant ships and could jump into any of them at any time. In addition a very sophisticated damage model was incorporated. The aim of the game was to knock out the enemy and sieze the neutral and enemy port. It was a fantastic experience, if ERT went along those lines it would be fantastic.

12-07-07, 01:26 PM	#1
EAST Sparky Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Eugene, OR. USA Posts: 153 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Enigma: Hotel Da Volta Update posting: http://www.deepsix-online.com/forums...php?f=14&t=144 __________________ ENIGMA R.I.P.

12-08-07, 10:25 PM	#4
Monterey Watch Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Tennessee Posts: 16 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	If anyone doesn't have Enigma, you can still find it here... http://www.subsim.com/store.html#enigma Last edited by Onkel Neal; 12-13-07 at 08:48 PM. Reason: Link updated

12-09-07, 12:44 AM	#5
EAST Sparky Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Eugene, OR. USA Posts: 153 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	We've also added some additional options (Gold box, Limited German Box, Runtime Only) http://hoteldavolta.warfleet.net __________________ ENIGMA R.I.P.

01-01-08, 06:50 AM	#6
The Enigma Seer of visions Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Under the surface Posts: 2,315 Downloads: 31 Uploads: 0	Communication Error [EDIT] I've removed some of my lines here, since I was wrong. I got from East background info that helped taking away my concerns about my order and the companies involved.[/EDIT] I've did an online order for both the classical game as for the 'Hotel Da Volta' Add-on for Enigma: Rising Tide. I received an e-mail stating that they are checking my credit card and when all is OK they will send me a link to download the software. Since then, I've haven't heared anything of them. I've send them 2 more emails asking for an update on the status of my order, but nada - nothing - no replies. Does anybody else in here have the same experience with the contact address <<chuckbush at hotmail dot com>>?? [Line removed] ...(See my comment above)..... [/Line removed] __________________ Last edited by The Enigma; 01-12-08 at 03:30 AM. Reason: I've talked to East and Neal

01-01-08, 08:33 AM	#7
Hitman Pacific Aces Dev Team Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Spain Posts: 6,099 Downloads: 109 Uploads: 2	If your credit card hasn't been charged yet, then there is nothing except delay. It doesn't indicate by itself lack of honesty or anything else, but may be some logistic problems. In any case, IIRC, EAST stated that no credit card would be charged for the expansion until the minimum number of pre-orders had been reached, so it might be just that, your pre-order has been taken but no release has been done yet. I suppose EAST will read this and reply, but you can also PM him here or post at the official TA games forums :hmm: __________________ One day I will return to sea ...

12-07-07, 08:17 PM	#2
Monterey Watch Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Tennessee Posts: 16 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Bump.

12-08-07, 09:47 AM	#3
Sonarman The Old Man Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Ayr,Scotland,UK Posts: 1,384 Downloads: 79 Uploads: 0	Perhaps it would be a good idea to ask the Neal/the moderators to create a seperate Enigma forum as it is now an on going project again. This may help the visibility/sales of the addon and to develop more interest in "Sink the Hood".

01-01-08, 03:10 PM	#8
The Enigma Seer of visions Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Under the surface Posts: 2,315 Downloads: 31 Uploads: 0	Hi Hitman, Thank you for the feedback. I've tried to contact them by using their email address as used for the order. I will also try to send him a PM. __________________

01-01-08, 04:55 PM	#9
EAST Sparky Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Eugene, OR. USA Posts: 153 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Because HDV gets rid of all the security for Enigma, we have set a target number of pre-orders before releasing the software. This is mentioned on the HDV website and when you place your order. Your card will not have been charged; however if for any reason it has been, please let me know asap and I'll see that it is removed. Regarding the Add-On: The subsim market has changed a lot since Enigma was released, from no new games in release to 2 SH games on the simulation side; both still being supported by modding communities; Battlestations Midway & Navy Field on the "game" side of the market, and many other independent efforts out there. While everything we've put into HDV thus far is very good, it does appear that interest isn't very high. We've been getting some feedback on it and are currently discussing some options. --East __________________ ENIGMA R.I.P.

01-01-08, 05:37 PM	#11
EAST Sparky Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Eugene, OR. USA Posts: 153 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I don't get to see the orders. I think that Resurgent was closed during the last week for the holidays. I don't think you have to wait for HDV to get the other software. Unless you ordered the runtime, that goes with the Add-On and can't be sent stand-alone. I imagine you should get an email from Resurgent Thursday or Friday. __________________ ENIGMA R.I.P.

01-03-08, 11:43 AM	#13
Sonarman The Old Man Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Ayr,Scotland,UK Posts: 1,384 Downloads: 79 Uploads: 0	I was hoping for LAN play in HDV, I know you'd mentioned including it in an earlier post about a future ERT patch, it would be great if that was included and that would probably generate more sales for ERT itself.

01-05-08, 12:07 AM	#14
EAST Sparky Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Eugene, OR. USA Posts: 153 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Noted. You aren't the first with that suggestion. It is under consideration. While we're at it. Anything else that the community feels is seriously needed in the add-on, please post it here. We haven't made a final determination yet; this means nothing is off the table. --E __________________ ENIGMA R.I.P.

01-05-08, 12:48 PM	#15
Sonarman The Old Man Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Ayr,Scotland,UK Posts: 1,384 Downloads: 79 Uploads: 0	It may be too big an addition for the addon but for me land and ports have always been the main things missing from ERT. Don't know if anyone here ever played FTCII (Fleet Tactical Command 2 PC (ega) & QL ) In that multiplayer LAN only game each player had a fleet under his command including frigates subs and merchant ships and could jump into any of them at any time. In addition a very sophisticated damage model was incorporated. The aim of the game was to knock out the enemy and sieze the neutral and enemy port. It was a fantastic experience, if ERT went along those lines it would be fantastic.