Here we go again-Ukraine once again pt2

[u crank]

Originally Posted by Jimbuna

I don't doubt either side are to be totally believed but I do know beyond a shadow of a doubt who started the war and who the aggressor is but other than that I trust my own instincts Marcel.

Judgements as made by the ICC and the arrest warrant only add to my beliefs.

Well Jim I am not inquiring about the moral implications of this war. What I am looking for is honest and realistic information about the military progress on the ground. One side can be morally right and still be the source of misinformation and propaganda. All western sources and their media allies say Ukraine is winning and can win this war. My own instincts say that is probably not true.

[mapuc]

Originally Posted by u crank

Well Jim I am not inquiring about the moral implications of this war. What I am looking for is honest and realistic information about the military progress on the ground. One side can be morally right and still be the source of misinformation and propaganda. All western sources and their media allies say Ukraine is winning and can win this war. My own instincts say that is probably not true.

Though longer the war goes on, though harder it will get for Ukraine to win the war. Time is on the Russian side.

The resistance against our willingness to help Ukraine is increasing among the citizens here in Europe.

Finding a source that isn't biased-If you find such a source please post the link(s) here.

I think most of us would be glad.

Markus

[Jeff-Groves]

Ukraine. The New Russian Afganistan?

[Exocet25fr]

All western sources and their media allies say Ukraine is winning and can win this war. My own instincts say that is probably not true.....me too!

Ukraine, Ukrainian Waterloo?

[mapuc]

A good FB-friend posted this video on my wall



He is also very biased in his belief-Ukraine will lose against the mighty Russia.

Markus

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by Exocet25fr

All western sources and their media allies say Ukraine is winning and can win this war. My own instincts say that is probably not true.....me too!

Ukraine, Ukrainian Waterloo?

I'd be interested to know why a French national of all people would make reference to Waterloo.

[Jeff-Groves]

Originally Posted by Jimbuna

I'd be interested to know why a French national of all people would make reference to Waterloo.

To embarrassed to talk about the Maginot Line?


At lest there was a real battle at Waterloo.

[Exocet25fr]

Waterloo big French defeat, I forgot to specify ! do you understand now ?

Sorry, but I don't understand the comments about Maginot Line, and French national of all people !?

[tonschk]

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US to Declare Nazi Azov battalion as a ‘Friendly’ Neo-Nazi Group


As if imposing a $900 penalty on every American household for Ukraine wasn’t enough, American politicians may surprise us further

The Nazi Azov battalion, once sanctioned, now teeters on the brink of receiving personal war assistance from the US Congress, raising concerns about legitimizing Azov’s tyranny. The situation remains complex and somber, with a big climactic development on the horizon.


According to media reports, Congresswoman Victoria Spartz, an Indiana Republican, has stirred controversy by proposing an amendment to the 2024 Pentagon funding bill. This amendment seeks to lift the 2018 prohibition on funding the Nazi Azov Battalion, a Ukrainian unit with alleged neo-Nazi ties.

https://tfiglobalnews.com/2023/09/04...eo-nazi-group/


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[Catfish]

“Mushroom poisoning”: rocket scientist dies after Russia’s failed moon mission

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/world...d53f3990&ei=48

Polonium, tea and high-storeyd buildings have become soo expensive

[Jeff-Groves]

Originally Posted by Exocet25fr

Sorry, but I don't understand the comments about Maginot Line, and French national of all people !?

Sorry, but I don't have time to get my crayons out.

[mapuc]

Every week a few hundred Ukrainian soldiers is send to Europe to be trained in NATO style warfare.

Which mean that each month or so Ukraine has a few thousand NATO trained soldiers they can add to the war machine.

Markus

[Skybird]

Plan C, anyone...?

https://www.politico.eu/article/ukra...russia-plan-c/


Western governments are disconnected from reality. And this will cost.

[mapuc]

Originally Posted by Skybird

Plan C, anyone...?

https://www.politico.eu/article/ukra...russia-plan-c/


Western governments are disconnected from reality. And this will cost.

Someone once wrote that time was on the Russian side-Here I was thinking some years from now where the resistance among the civilians here in Europe and USA has grown to a majority

Then I read this in the article:

Certainly, if Ukraine doesn’t make much greater progress on the ground by November, Milley’s caution will be revived and, this time, it risks turning into a chorus, with more people questioning whether this war is winnable. However, we then come up against the problem that’s dogged Western allies from the start, as they never collectively identified clear Ukrainian war aims — partly because trying to do so would have likely risked allied unity — and so “winnable” wasn’t ever defined.

Markus

[Skybird]

Ukraine now most likely goes after Tokmak, which controls road and railway nexi, and then Melitopol. If they can. There must have been serious losses.

For that they have, due to the coming mud season, maybe 8-10, maybe 11 weeks time from here on. Somewhere in Novembre mechanized operations probably become impossible. Until then they must create facts on the ground that impress even in times of Western election campaigns.

Still no Taurus deliveries. Little Babble Olaf is too afraid to decide it alone, he wants American Big Daddy should once again go first so that he can hide in the shadow of his big shoulders and then call it "enge Abstimmung mit unseren Verbündeten".




Its written in some news that Ukraine is running low on Western cruise missiles.