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Old 11-09-17, 12:23 AM   #1
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well eleven times tonight i have tried strike from the sea with the same result each time.

very frustrating.

on the last attempt i spent about an hour IRL traveling north almost to the edge of the map. launched 4 TLAMs, reloaded while i headed east, Launched 4 more and continued east diving to 50 foot to the floor.

i had about a dozen of those SS-N-14 SILEX missiles launched at me. but it didnt matter. because the damned bomber flew over and with pinpoint accuracy depth bombed me.

i cant stand these stupid TLAM missions - its a death sentence in the campaign to the point that i just dont do them. i sail around sinking subs until it fails the mission.

EDIT: somehow... i think the bomber is able to detect me by sonar, WITHOUT having buoys in the water. its like i dive to a few hindered feet and increase to 15 knots and it makes a b-line for me from several miles away and drops bombs directly on my conning tower hatch. by the time it gets to where i launched the missiles i am a good few thousand yards away from my launch point... shouldnt it have to drop a buoy and listen? instead of homing right in?
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Old 11-09-17, 02:21 AM   #2
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12th time is the charm lol

repeated the same tactic only headed almost right to the border of the map, fired 4 TLAMs and headed east, fired a MOSS southward, the plane homed in on the moss and air dropped a torpedo on it. ignored me. then circled around a bit and bombed me! UGH but the bombs werent a direct hit as i was turning, the plane left after a while and i fired off the second salvo with success and headed home.

the end.

dunno why but those TLAM missions take some doing for me
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Old 11-09-17, 01:39 PM   #3
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I have assembled some tips here that may help you (it's in my second post)

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=235408

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Old 11-09-17, 05:17 PM   #4
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well eleven times tonight i have tried strike from the sea with the same result each time.

very frustrating.

on the last attempt i spent about an hour IRL traveling north almost to the edge of the map. launched 4 TLAMs, reloaded while i headed east, Launched 4 more and continued east diving to 50 foot to the floor.

i had about a dozen of those SS-N-14 SILEX missiles launched at me. but it didnt matter. because the damned bomber flew over and with pinpoint accuracy depth bombed me.

i cant stand these stupid TLAM missions - its a death sentence in the campaign to the point that i just dont do them. i sail around sinking subs until it fails the mission.

EDIT: somehow... i think the bomber is able to detect me by sonar, WITHOUT having buoys in the water. its like i dive to a few hindered feet and increase to 15 knots and it makes a b-line for me from several miles away and drops bombs directly on my conning tower hatch. by the time it gets to where i launched the missiles i am a good few thousand yards away from my launch point... shouldnt it have to drop a buoy and listen? instead of homing right in?
I told you to take out the Grisha and Krivak with their ASW missiles

When you have a bit of initial distance to the plane, don't be afraid to open up at flank to get max distance between you and the plane when it gets to your launch location. Now the problem is that with realistic reloads you'll have to repeat the exercise in 7.5 minutes.. Actually it should be 15min because all 4 tubes can't be loaded at the same time but that's besides the point. If you really want to go all hog, figure out the plane airspeed and approximate distance and go from there how long you can run hell for leather.

Hey fishies, where's "realistic reload times" option?
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Old 11-10-17, 12:51 PM   #5
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I just did this mission and I am making a video today. The key is when you begin your mission leave the area to lessen the warships detected, using silent running until only 2 warships or less are left that you detect. Fire your moss to distract the rest and fire torpedoes at the 2 (or 3) warships that are still lit. when you take them out fire your Tlams and complete the mission. As long as the remaining warships can't see you no aircraft or helos will attack you.

Problem is with this mission you can complete it but there isn't a results screen to say you did so successfully.

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Old 11-10-17, 01:43 PM   #6
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I succeeded by taking out the warships first, else the torpedo counter-attack is deadly, they are just too close and in a war you can't wait or lose any time.

The MOSS and active tactics will work the first time but not for the 2 other times that you musst shoot 4 /2 missiles (you can only launch 4 missiles in 1 go). I had to radically change my position after my first attack. You must get away from searching planes, sonobuoys etc. before attacking a second and third time. Had I not eliminated the ships first I couldn't have changed my position radically with active pinging warships...

To succeed mission you must fire and hit with 10 TLAMs (4-4-2). and yes, there's no debrifing for single missions, I hope they add this soonest.

CW is really Red Storm Rising on high steroids keeping all interesting aspects of this Classic. This game is on a good way to become the best sub sim ever.

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Just leaving the area has worked for me... silent running 2-5 knots, deep as possible, head north until you are near the edge of the map and fire the TLAMs 4 at a time until all 8 are fired.

you will get some aircraft attention but its 50-50 whether or not they find you.

every time i have tried it since my initial attempt i have been successful
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@GeneralGamer,
@GoldenRivet,

In CW your tactics will work because the max. range of TLAMs are highly exagerated, and your missiles will hardly get shotdown.
It should be so that the longer the range you're shooting your missiles from, the more of them will get shotdown from ship or terran defences, no mention of that in the briefing. So you should STAY in the sector and not get further away.

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