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Old 09-14-09, 12:29 PM   #1
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does anyone know how to release this boat for stock ?

hi i was wondering if anyone here knows how to make the tench class available for stock v1.5 i would like to see it added to the game for stock if someone is willing to do it i know its in rsrdc and trigger maru but not in stock


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Old 09-17-09, 01:27 PM   #2
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cant believe nobody answered you, just take any ship thats added to the game and follow what they did with it.

in addition to the sub folder and files i think you will need to add the sub to the roster and campaign files.

ducimus is a very smart and helpfull guy and he could help if you had any questions about doing it.

i know that in TMO ducimus has done some changes to the subs so you might need to tweak a few things to make it work in stock without the rest of the TMO files.
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Old 09-17-09, 10:04 PM   #3
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he has not been on is there anyway you can do it for me webster when you have some time available let me know ok thanks for replying i appreciate it as always

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Old 09-18-09, 01:05 AM   #4
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i dont even have time to patch my GFO mod right now, and i surely cant take the time to work on a mod rquest so its all up to you.

try asking other modders who have added ships to the game so you understand whats needed then any tweaks you may need to do to add it to the campaign will be beter understood.

modding is about learning and you should take the time to learn about things you are interested in modding so its much easier for you to mod things in the future.

just ask way too many questions from anybody and everybody and take lots of notes. even if what you learn doesnt help right now for the mod your working on, one day it will help you with another mod.

as for contacting ducimus, if hes busy then hes busy

he may not have time to help you now but you could send him a PM and you should get some kind of a reply back in a few days i would think

hes on the ubi forums a lot so maybe you can catch up to him there
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Old 09-18-09, 09:32 AM   #5
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ok thanks webster i will do that and i appreciate your help and i will ask around


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Old 09-18-09, 12:14 PM   #6
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I used to have a tench for stock, but when filefront had its meltdown, it went poof. I seriously do not have time to make another stock version, so ill give you a brief rundown of making one.

1.), rip the entire Data\Submarine\NSS_Tench directory right out of TMO. I don't care if anyone does that, but i'll refer you to the licensing & permissions section in the mods readme if you intend to redistribute later on.

2.) copy the \Data\UPCData\UPCUnitsData\UnitParts9Tench.upc file from TMO, you'll need this for your conning tower. Rename this file to be in numberical sequence to existing UnitParts file .

3.) Copy the Data\Roster\American\Submarine\SSTench.cfg file from TMO.

With all of these files in place, you should now have a Tench added to your game, playable in single missions, but not in campaign. To add it to a campaign, now we get to the messy part.

4.) In TMO, go to this file, Data\UPCData\UPCCampaignData\Flotillas.upc. What your going to have to do, is copy the additional entries for the tench, keeping in proper syntax with existing entries. You'll need to:
a.) declare the boat type for the flotilla,
Code:
[Flotilla 1.UserPlayerUnitType 9]
ID= F1Tench
NameDisplayable= Tench class
AvailabilityInterval= 1945-01-01, NULL
IDLinkUserPlayerUnitType= Tench
UnitTypeCommonality= 8  		
IDFlotillaLinkTransferTo= NULL
This is saying, this boat, goes to this flotilla, from this date onward.

b.) define the patrol missions for that boat.
Code:
[Flotilla 1.UserPlayerUnitType 9.Objective 1]
ID= PH9Obj1
NameDisplayable= East China Sea
AvailabilityInterval=1942-01-01, NULL 
ObjectiveCode= East China Sea

[Flotilla 1.UserPlayerUnitType 9.Objective 2]
ID= PH9Obj2
NameDisplayable= Marshalls patrols
AvailabilityInterval=NULL, 1944-04-01
ObjectiveCode= Marshall Islands

[Flotilla 1.UserPlayerUnitType 9.Objective 3]
ID= PH9Obj3
NameDisplayable= Empire Waters
AvailabilityInterval=NULL, NULL
ObjectiveCode= Honshu

[Flotilla 1.UserPlayerUnitType 9.Objective 4]
ID= PH9Obj4
NameDisplayable= Empire Waters
AvailabilityInterval=NULL, NULL
ObjectiveCode= Hokkaido

[Flotilla 1.UserPlayerUnitType 9.Objective 5]
ID= PH9Obj5
NameDisplayable= Caroline Islands
AvailabilityInterval=1942-01-01, NULL 
ObjectiveCode= Caroline Islands

[Flotilla 1.UserPlayerUnitType 9.Objective 6]
ID= PH9Obj6
NameDisplayable= Mariana Islands
AvailabilityInterval=1942-04-01, 1944-04-01 
ObjectiveCode= Mariana Islands

[Flotilla 1.UserPlayerUnitType 9.Objective 7]
ID= PH9Obj7
NameDisplayable= Palau Island
AvailabilityInterval=1943-01-01, 1944-04-01 
ObjectiveCode= Palau Island

[Flotilla 1.UserPlayerUnitType 9.Objective 8]
ID= PH9Obj8
NameDisplayable= Luzon Strait
AvailabilityInterval=1944-01-01, NULL
ObjectiveCode= Luzon Strait

[Flotilla 1.UserPlayerUnitType 9.Objective 9]
ID= PH9Obj9
NameDisplayable= Patrols in the Sea Of Japan
AvailabilityInterval=1944-11-01, NULL 	
ObjectiveCode= Sea of Japan
NOTE: You cannot just copy and past the above. You'll have to rework it so its in sequence to your existing boat entries in your flotilla.upc file. This means you'll have to change
- [Flotilla 1 to whatever
- UserPlayerUnitType 9 to whatever
- ID= PH9 to whatever

Pay VERY CLOSE attention to the sequencing. This file is finicky that way.

Having done that you should get a tench in campaign mode, if your awarded one, however if you want to start with a tench, you'll have to do the following:

5.) in TMO, look at Data\UPCData\UPCCampaignData\CareerStart.upc
and follow the syntax therein. This file is even MORE picky. Data must match what is in the flotilla.upc

After that, your done.
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Old 09-18-09, 05:31 PM   #7
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there is no way i will attempt this im not good at this at all and i will be where mush and his crew are right now at the bottom of the sea so i will leave it alone for now is there anyway you can update trigger maru so that my killer sub mod that i uploaded to the subsim downloads page will work in trigger maru if you can do that i will use trigger maru but killer boat is my most favorite mod and its not compatible with tmo let me know if you can


thanks for the help though ducimus i appreciate it

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Old 09-18-09, 07:45 PM   #8
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there is no way i will attempt this im not good at this at all

baby steps, its all baby steps

why not add the sub to the game first and get it working (step 1)

then (step 2) you can play around with the campaign stuff untill you learn what works and what doesnt. if you dont get it to work then so what, at least you have the sub in the game for single missions and single patrols.

modding is just as challenging as evading those destroyers so why not take the challenge and go for it. i have as much fun modding as playing.

it is your duty as a modder to go screw up the game as best you can, the worse you screw it up the more you learn and the more you learn the even worse ways you can come up with to screw it up more.

so do your duty sir and go cause some CTD issue
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Old 09-18-09, 09:01 PM   #9
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ok webster aye aye sir on my way and after this you will address me as uncle charlie he he

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ok webster aye aye sir on my way and after this you will address me as uncle charlie he he

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for most things you need to do in mods its easier to do than you think it will be
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Old 09-19-09, 12:54 PM   #11
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thanks for your help webster i appreciate it i found the tench class mod on one of my old discs its been uploaded to the subsim dwonloads page becuase ducimus said he lost the file so now he can get it back


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thanks for your help webster i appreciate it i found the tench class mod on one of my old discs its been uploaded to the subsim dwonloads page becuase ducimus said he lost the file so now he can get it back


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if you have any other mods that arent in our downloads section why dont you upload them along with the tench mod so others can access them if needed. lots of good mods got lost when filefront crashed and like the tench, the mod makers lost them too.
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Old 09-19-09, 04:12 PM   #13
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will do webster i will be back on tonight and i will upload what i have so everyone can use them

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