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Old 09-27-16, 12:49 PM   #1531
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A pity I'm not the President. Undoing that decision would be my first official act as commander in chief; what with Russia, China and North Korea jerking our chain these days-still out on Iran Von C's maxim:"whenever possible increase firepower" meets the Russian:"numbers(of B-52's) have a cachet of their own"
The only active operational model of the B-52 is the B-52H.
I love you Aktung, but those beautiful B-52's and their aircrews are not going to return from any bombing run that has superior air defences. Leaving millions of casualties in their wake on both sides.

FBM submarines and ICBM's will have to do the job with a 30 minute window to back track where those missiles came from. Only the submarines can make a run for it and that's why they only fire half now and save the rest for later after they have cleared the area. (both Navies do this by the way)

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Old 09-27-16, 03:46 PM   #1532
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Well your right; but any pilot or any other front line trooper understands that the 'tip of the spear' is always expendable incl. my nephew, whom I urged to go the Air Force Academy, but to stay out of fighters mostly because he is huge-too large for the cockpit; naturally wound up a 'full bird' rolling in over Afghanistan in an F-16... The B-52 as with the Superfortress in Korea when they tried to resurrect my dad for duty is probably past it's prime, but is a very viable 'threat in being' compelling our potential enemies to divert way too many rubles, shekels, and Yuan towards air-defense that would otherwise be used elsewhere. One 'nuke is a great deterrent' is the name of this game here, not conventional bombs as in Nam. Stormin' Norman (Bovine Scatology) kept the marines off-shore in Desert storm completely wasting Saddam's war effort against a perceived threat/ Patton's ghost army for the Pas de Calais D-Day landing etc- Money is the sinews of war here and their respective economies cannot stand the strain of both sanctions AND misdirected military spending. Think WWI; when Germany blew a Gazillion marks on the Kiel Canal to expedite the dreadnoughts access to the North Sea...only to discover that the British HAD upped their class of ships, Elizabeth Class BB's, and Germany's new vessels to keep pace would have miseries fitting through...not to mention ships like post-WW I's Bismark, which did go in the canal, once, but in the age of air-recon would be a sitting duck. All warfare is based on deceit; and we can afford more deceit than our enemies can. With 'below radar avionics' thrown in, the individual B-52 also represents 'economy of forces' being an incredibly utilitarian payload 'arsenal aircraft' and we don't need to make new ones. For your reconsideration: http://warontherocks.com/2016/06/we-already-have-an-arsenal-plane-its-called-the-b-52/
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Old 09-28-16, 05:45 AM   #1533
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1939 German-Soviet Frontier Treaty is signed by Joachim von Ribbentrop and Vyacheslav Molotov; redraws German and Soviet spheres of influence in central Europe and transfers most of Lithuania to the USSR.

1958 USAF selects Thor over Jupiter rocket for mass production as ICBM's.
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Old 09-28-16, 12:48 PM   #1534
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1958 USAF selects Thor over Jupiter rocket for mass production as ICBM's.
A very interesting missile, glad we never had to use it. Sixty (60) went to Great Britian

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American liquid propellant intermediate range ballistic missile, developed by Douglas in 1956-1958. 60 deployed to Britain in 1958-1962. The basis for a family of Thor and Delta space launch vehicles, remaining in production into the 2010's.
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I love you Aktung, but those beautiful B-52's...

but I still love you
I KNOW....Just shoot that furball'd lonesome Wookie for me would ya! See you in the next millennium(slightly carbonized)!
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1829 British Home Secretary Sir Robert Peel establishes London's Metropolitan Police - hence the nicknames "bobbies" and "peelers".

1916 American oil tycoon John D. Rockefeller becomes the world's first billionaire.

1941 Nazi massacre at Babi Yar, near Kiev, 33,771 mostly Jews murdered.

1943 Eisenhower & Italian Marshal Pietro Badoglio sign an armistice.

1976 Jerry Lee Lewis, attempting to shoot soda bottles hits his bass player Norman Owens twice in the chest.
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1938 Treaty of Munich signed by Hitler, Mussolini, Daladier and Chamberlain, forces Czechoslovakia to give territory to Germany.

1939 41 U-boats sunk this month (153,000 ton).

1940 59 U-boats sunk this month (295,000 tons).

1941 33,771 Jews are buried alive at Babi Yarravine (near Kiev) Ukraine.

1941 53 U-boats sunk this month (202,000 tons).

1942 98 U-boats sunk this month (485,000 tons).

1942 SS exterminates 3,500 Jews in Zelov Lodz Poland in 6 week period.

1946 22 Nazi leaders found guilty of war crimes at Nuremberg.

1946 Joachim von Ribbentrop & Hermann Goering sentenced to death by Nuremberg trial.
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1914 The first division of Canadian troops, 33,000 sail for Britain; most Canadians are volunteers, anxious to prove their loyalty to the Commonwealth.

1918 World War I: Arab forces under T. E. Lawrence ("Lawrence of Arabia") capture Damascus.

1934 Adolf Hitler expands German army & navy & creates an air force, violating Treaty of Versailles.

1942 Bell P-59 Airacomet fighter, 1st US jet, makes maiden flight.

1946 12 Nazi war criminals sentenced to death in Nuremberg.

1947 The F-86 Sabre flies for the first time.

1950 South Korean troops cross the 38th parallel into North Korea.

1957 B-52 bombers begin full-time flying alert in case of USSR attack.
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1901 First Royal Naval submarine launched at Barrow.

1940 British liner Empress loaded with refugees for Canada, sunk. (1.012 lives lost).

1942 "Queen Mary" slices cruiser "Curacao" in half, killing 338.
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1906 SOS adopted as warning signal by 1st conference on wireless telegraphy.

1941 Adolf Hitler says Russia is "broken" & would "never rise again."

1990 Reunification of East & West Germany. West German flag raised above Brandenburg Gate on the stroke of midnight.
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1939 Last Polish troops surrender.

1942 German assault on Tractor factory in Stalingrad.

1957 USSR launches Sputnik I, 1st artificial Earth satellite.
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1936 - The British Union of Fascists attempt to march through London led by Oswald Mosley, at Cable Street in Tower Hamlets the march was halted by a mass of anti-fascist protestors, a mixture of Jewish, Communist, Irish, Socialist and Anarchist groups joined forces in what would become known as the Battle of Cable Street.

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1957:Leave it to Beaver premiers! Who needs "the Donald" and That former Sec. of State?
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1914 World War I first aerial combat resulting in a kill.

1916 Adolf Hitler is wounded in the left thigh by an exploding shell during the Battle of the Somme.

1942 5,000 Jews of Dubno, Russia massacred.

1943 US air raid on Wake, Japanese execute 98 US prisoners in retaliation.
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1917 Battle of Passchendaele: Canadian troops capture the village of Passchendaele in the Third Battle of Ypres, after 250,000 casualties on both sides.

1918 US ship Otranto sinks between Scotland & Ireland, 425 die.

1939 Adolf Hitler denies he intends to go to war against France & Britain.

1939 Hitler announces plans to regulate Jewish problem.

1943 Himmler wants acceleration of "Final Solution."

1944 Royal Ducth Navy submarine Zwaardvis (Swordfish) sinks U168 at Java.

1945 Gen Eisenhower welcomed in Hague (on Hitler's train).

1945 Memorial for executed unveiled in Terbregge.

1949 Iva Toguri D'Aquino (Tokyo Rose) sentenced to 10 years & $10,000 fine.

1949 US President Harry Truman signs Mutual Defense Assistance Act (for NATO).

1951 Stalin proclaims USSR has atomic bomb.
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