SUBSIM: The Web's #1 resource for all submarine & naval simulations since 1997 |
02-17-11, 06:48 AM | #16 |
Admiral
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Canada
Posts: 2,272
Downloads: 58
Uploads: 0
|
you know, since the NAT and router blocks all the attacks, do you believe that desktop systems need a firewall?
|
02-17-11, 06:49 AM | #17 |
Navy Seal
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Land of windmills, tulips, wooden shoes and cheese. Lots of cheese.
Posts: 8,467
Downloads: 53
Uploads: 10
|
Not really, can't hurt though.
Nice to have a backup if external firewall is breached. And I'm sure there are ways to tunnel through those, as far as I know the ones running locally are more restrictive.
__________________
Contritium praecedit superbia. |
02-17-11, 06:52 AM | #18 |
Ocean Warrior
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: High Peak, Derbyshire
Posts: 2,851
Downloads: 33
Uploads: 0
|
CC cleaner, Defraggler, Spybot, ZoneAlarm (free version) and AVG here.
__________________
|
02-17-11, 07:03 AM | #19 | |
Admiral
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Canada
Posts: 2,272
Downloads: 58
Uploads: 0
|
Quote:
with IPV6 coming along, NAT will disappear and considering that quite a lot of people (almost everyone in my area) uses the cheap router the ISP provides. Host based firewalls will be needed again. Though I'll probably end up buying a Hardware firewall and/or IDS |
|
02-17-11, 07:11 AM | #20 | |
Soaring
|
Quote:
If you remmeber that there are more than 2.5 million virusses out there, it means that even an active scan with a reliability of 99% leaves you prone to 25 thousand samples your scanner would not recognise. ----- Some of you seem to miss the poiint of my story I started with. I thought exactly like you guys did, until some days ago. I had only freeware, and used the software you mentioned. And when I switched to pro software, all of a sudden all three systems showed that nevertheless they were infected. And yes, I made sure that it were no false positive alarms, but correct alarms. Don't take it easy, and be sure you don't defend the reliability of freeware just to justify that you personally do not want to spend a yearly fee for a licence. Freeware Antivirus scanners leave your email traffic unprotected, and both these scanners and freeware firewalls do not compare to the full versions's features and reliability. In the latest test that I referred to, the worst solutions for firewalls in their list were - the two freeware candidates, Zonealarm free and Comodo free. Comodo in parts let almost every fourth attack through, if I recall it correctly. The payware Zonealarm is said to have significantly better recognition than the freeware.
__________________
If you feel nuts, consult an expert.
|
|
02-17-11, 07:15 AM | #21 | |
Soaring
|
Quote:
Also, some secondary tools released by free groups can be good and recommendable additions. But the lesson I learned is: do not exclusively depend on them: see them as additions only.
__________________
If you feel nuts, consult an expert.
|
|
02-17-11, 01:40 PM | #22 |
Ocean Warrior
|
I think the biggest advantage which paid antivirus software provides is the speed with with they react to a new virus/new method of attack. That's why I always was very fond of Kaspersky, they have the best reaction speed.
|
|
|