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05-21-15, 04:53 PM | #1 |
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The video that accompanies the article tells it all
How long until somene gets killed over this BS?
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05-21-15, 05:01 PM | #2 | |
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http://foxtrotalpha.jalopnik.com/loo...out-1691571576
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05-22-15, 06:05 AM | #3 | |
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This area will fast become a no-fly zone at this rate and it was quite concerning to learn that civilian flightpaths are practically right above them.
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05-28-15, 11:21 PM | #4 |
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The Fight To Control The South China Sea
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05-29-15, 01:25 AM | #5 |
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An aerial photo taken though a glass window of a Philippine military plane shows the alleged on-going land reclamation by China on mischief reef in the Spratly Islands in the South China Sea, west of Palawan, Philippines, May 11, 2015.
"The U.S., which said that the man-made islands cannot be recognized as sovereign Chinese territory, may be expecting that any possible deployments of military units in the region would impact the Chinese aggression. However, the move could also backfire if China decides to double down its efforts in defiance of the U.S., the Journal reported. “The risk of this is that China may use such deployments as a reason to try to challenge or confront U.S. forces,” Rory Medcalf, head of the National Security College at the Australian National University, told Reuters. Meanwhile, Chinese embassy spokesman Zhu Haiquan told Reuters that China had “indisputable sovereignty” over the Spratly Islands, and that the country’s construction in the area was “reasonable, justified and lawful.” China has expanded the artificial islands in the Spratly Islands to 2,000 acres of land, which is significantly up from 500 acres last year, according to a February estimate by experts who studied the images released by IHS Jane’s, a defense intelligence provider." http://www.ibtimes.com/us-military-mulls-sending-planes-navy-ships-counter-chinese-expansion-south-china-sea-1919959 It is well past time to forge a pact with Viet-Nam, Japan, Brunei and Malaysia and put an extremely forceful halt to this expansion.
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05-21-15, 05:06 PM | #6 |
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ONGOING THREAD
ahem: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=214616 POST #17 [QUOTE: me]One things for certain: it's a' comin' They're not 'rattlin' the sabre'yet! but they're sure forging it![/QUOTE] http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-32331964 Nothing like a 10, 000 ft runway built on a reef in the middle of the 'Cow's Lick' of Chinese expansion. It's capable of accommodating military aircraft...and like Midway in WWII, is in reality a 'carrier you cannot sink' this one will bear monitoring. The slow trudge of Sino-dominance in the Western Pacific is well underway.
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06-28-15, 10:26 AM | #7 | |
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China says changing position on sea dispute would shame ancestors
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06-28-15, 11:50 AM | #8 |
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Totalitarism's old tricks include ancestor worship
That's right up there with Mussolini trying to 'rebuild the Roman empire'...in Ethiopia. And Keeping the Confederate battle flag flying in the US perhaps(heritage???) Hey, when you're guilty, you're guilty IMHO “The Fascist movement, under the authoritative dictator Benito Mussolini, saw in many ways an ideological return to the ways of Ancient Rome and all for which it stood. Facism revived consciousness of the ancient glories of Italy, of the Roman Empire...continuation of this tradition by...the Fascisti struggle for a new Imperial Rome.”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Italo-Ethiopian_War That exposed the weakness of the League of Nations at the time. War crimes, mustard gas , castration of prisoners, this war had it had it all. Fair enough, the Sinos can have anything that doesn't have oil. Their ancestors were not interested in oil. We really need to slap 'em up along side their ears though and free Tibet first. This latest aggression is movement against perceived economic weakness in the West coupled with a serious case of 'victory fever' over the absorption of Tibet which has gone unchallenged. First strike will be against the Three Gorges Dam...Dambuster style; and we'll reclaim Hong Kong...(allright re-lease for another 99 years) and keep Formosa. The question really becomes one of: do we deal with Putin first; a man with a mission, hopelessly trying to recapture the glories of the Soviet Empire in Ukraine. Which at some point will re-include Russia's loss-of-face in Afghanistan (and a lot of dead ancestors)...again. Bottom line: are we still fighting WWI post-colonial crap or is it WWIII.
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06-28-15, 04:10 PM | #9 |
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War, war never changes.
However your post implies that you could ocupy areas of PRC. What kind of military force would such an action require? At what kind of cost? What I am saying is that unless PRC implodes it would still grow up as a viable challenger in Asia-Pacific area, simply because it's economic power would allow it to. And this is b/c USA has to project power globaly and not in that specific region, EU states though wealthy are divided and individually are loosing meaningfull ability to project power into Asia-Pacific.
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06-28-15, 05:10 PM | #10 | |
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06-29-15, 01:36 AM | #11 |
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I think that it is a matter of perspective. Ie recent expansion of NATO and coup in Kiev are bad, bad things from our stand point - threats that require reaction. Thus Russian actions are not driven by perceived weakness and lack of deterence, but by perceived threat, thus increasing deterence measures leads to escalation and not balance.
Going to war against Russia or the PRC would be most unwise, as both countries have significant nuclear arsenals (ie US does not enjoy nuclear monopoly of the WW2). This is the only real existential threat US has ever really faced. Morever a war against either of the countries, even should it stay conventional, would imply significant coasts. The war in both cases (more so in case of the PRC) would be impossible without decisive US comitment.
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08-10-15, 07:32 AM | #12 |
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Two interesting, contrasting articles
China hits back at U.S. criticism over South China Sea 'restrictions' China committed to uphold peace, stability in S. China Sea
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08-10-15, 11:23 AM | #13 |
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I'm beginning to wonder if all of this isn't to develop a 'bargaining-chip' for the formal reacquisition of Taiwan/Formosa which is the big objective over all. Present Formosa is a 'big cork' in their bottle. The other big problem is that all conflict takes place in time; China is in no hurry which is at odds with Western culture. We, in the West, like to settle things more quickly than 50 years+ down the line. The Sino power establishment understands it has no equivalent navy capable of head to head conflict at sea, yet, and is biding its time to develop its military infrastructure to maintain what it is continuing since the illegal acquisition of Tibet...over 50 years ago
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08-25-15, 01:34 PM | #14 |
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Today the Cows Lick tomorrow the Mediterranean...
http://foreignpolicy.com/2015/05/15/china-russia-navy-joint-sea-2015-asia-pivot-blowback/ On May 11, nine ships from the Russian Navy and China’s People’s Liberation Army Navy (PLAN) kicked off 10 days of combined exercises in the Mediterranean Sea, for their first joint naval war games in European waters. What does this nautical confab, dubbed “Joint Sea 2015,” entail? “Maritime defense, maritime replenishment, escort actions, joint operations to safeguard navigation security as well as real weapon firing drill,” according to Sr. Col. Geng Yansheng, a spokesman for China’s Defense Ministry. The aim of the exercises is to “further deepen friendly and practical interaction between the two countries,” maintained the Russian Defense Ministry. Moscow added that the drills “are not aimed against any third country.”
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10-14-15, 03:05 PM | #15 | |
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Here we go....
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-34529863 Quote:
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