[REL] Open Horizons II

[DoveEgg]

Originally Posted by Trevally.

Have a look in the file I quoted above and see what flotilla you are in.
Mare Nostrum should be the 23rd flotilla.
If you are in the 23rd flotilla your game is still ok as the type B is a fail safe boat for this.

If you are still in the 2nd flotilla - your game is messed up.
If this is the case - all I can suggest is to try a save game from when you were in the 2nd flotilla - (HappyTimes).
So try a save just before you finish happy times

If you are still stuck in 2nd flotilla when you then pick MareNostrum again - try picking WesternApproaches (6th flotilla)

Let me know how you get on please

User player unit says I have a VIIC, but career track says VIIB. My flotilla looks right for La Spezia. I see that the Unit Interval is different than yours. I have installed and uninstalled TheBeasts Equipment Upgrade 1.4. Could that have messed up my submarine promotions?

Unfortunately, I don't have any old saves from Happy Times. I usually only keep around two saves. In the bunker, and out on patrol. I just used Silent Otto to skip ahead to Black Pit. I can report that I have a VIIC in Black Pit

[UserPlayerUnit 1]
ID=VIIC
NameDisplayable=Type VIIC U-boat
UnitName=U-71
UpgradeClass=2
Type=VIIC
UnitInterval=1940-07-30 00:00:00, 1945-12-31 00:00:00
ExternalClassName=SSTypeVIIC
Nationality=German
Evolution=Normal
Damage=0.000000
CO2Level=0.000000
TextureName=NULL
LightmapTextureName=NULL
NormalmapTextureName=NULL
MenuSilhouetteTextureName=Typ_9_1.tga
MaxOfficers=6
MaxPettyOfficers=32
IsUnderwater=false
StartUserPlayerUnitMissionDateTime=1941-03-15 10:00:00
CurrentUserPlayerUnitMissionDateTime=1941-03-15 10:00:00
SilentState=false

[CareerTrack 1]
ID=IDCareerTrack1
[CareerTrack 1.CareerStatusHeader]
ID=ID
UserPlayerNameDisplayable=Ross Wood
CareerOptionsDate=1939-09-03 15:00:00
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ID=ID
Reason=CSS_LastStatus
NameDisplayable=NULL
CurrentDate=1941-04-19 06:02:46
UniqueID=3957285610582654
Title=NULL
Text=NULL
EntryStatus=0
PlayerRankAchieved=CO-Rank-1
PlayerCurrentLastPromotionDateTime=1939-09-03 15:00:00
CurrentFlotilla=23rdFlotilla
CurrentFlotillaBase=F8LaSpezia
CurrentSDepartureDescription=1.17836e+006,5.29216e +006,122.289
CurrentUPCFlotillaUserPlayerUnitType=F8VIIB
CurrentDifficulty=Realistic
PlayerCurrentRenown=9250.000000
PlayerCurrentRating=-3.000000
PlayerHighestRating=0.000000
PlayerPatrolsCompleted=0.000000
PlayerTonnageSunk=850047.000000
PlayerWarshipsTonnageSunk=145271.000000
PlayerMerchantsTonnageSunk=363926.000000
PlayerShipsSunk=0.000000
PlayerCurrentMedals=NULL,MT_UboatIronCross2ndClass ,MT_UboatIronCross1stClass,MT_UboatIronCross1stCla ss,MT_UboatIronCross1stClass,MT_UboatIronCross2ndC lass,MT_UboatIronCross1stClass,MT_UboatIronCross1s tClass
CrewMembersCurrentMedalsRepository=NULL,MT_UboatIr onCross2ndClass,MT_UboatIronCross2ndClass,MT_Uboat IronCross2ndClass,MT_UboatIronCross2ndClass,MT_Ubo atIronCross2ndClass,MT_UboatIronCross2ndClass,MT_U boatIronCross2ndClass,MT_UboatIronCross2ndClass,MT _UboatIronCross2ndClass,MT_UboatIronCross2ndClass, MT_UboatIronCross2ndClass,MT_UboatIronCross2ndClas s
CrewMembersCurrentPromotionsRepository=3
PlayerCurrentObjectiveCode=South-Indian-Ocean
PlayerDefaultObjectives=ID1
PlayerCurrentObjectives=ID1
PatrolStartDateTime=1941-04-19 06:02:46

[vit90]

Into Arctic convoys campaigns at a choice of mission of Soviet waters I am constantly loaded in port where there is nothing. There are neither ships, nor houses, and by pressing keys M (map) a departure. Help me, what i must do. I already 10 times loaded and everything is identical!
The list of my mods:

[IMG][/IMG]

[Trevally.]

Originally Posted by DoveEgg

User player unit says I have a VIIC, but career track says VIIB. My flotilla looks right for La Spezia. I see that the Unit Interval is different than yours. I have installed and uninstalled TheBeasts Equipment Upgrade 1.4. Could that have messed up my submarine promotions?

Unfortunately, I don't have any old saves from Happy Times. I usually only keep around two saves. In the bunker, and out on patrol. I just used Silent Otto to skip ahead to Black Pit. I can report that I have a VIIC in Black Pit

This is good that you are in the correct flotilla and it looks like you save game will be ok.
I am not sure how the new boats are triggered and in OHII are only controlled by the flotilla and roster.

This " UnitInterval=1940-07-30 00:00:00, 1945-12-31 00:00:00" is odd
Somthing must have over written your roster cfg.

Go here - C:\Ubisoft\Silent Hunter 5\data\Roster\German\Submarine\SSTypeVIIC.cfg

it should be -

[UnitClass]
ClassName=SSTypeVIIC
UnitType=200
AppearanceDate=19410301;19400730
DisappearanceDate=19451231
DisplayName=Type VIIC


Anyway - I think you will be ok and you should get a new boat at some point - perhaps after MN

[Trevally.]

Originally Posted by vit90

Into Arctic convoys campaigns at a choice of mission of Soviet waters I am constantly loaded in port where there is nothing. There are neither ships, nor houses, and by pressing keys M (map) a departure. Help me, what i must do. I already 10 times loaded and everything is identical!
The list of my mods:

Do you have a 32bit OS system
Have you tried the more mem switch

[vit90]

Originally Posted by Trevally.

Do you have a 32bit OS system
Have you tried the more mem switch

Yes, I have 32bit OS Win7 and 2 GB RAM.
Before it sufficed. But it was sometimes loaded too not completely, there were no port outlines, only the ships.
These problems arose because of shortage of memory?

[THE_MASK]

Does turning off aero make a diffrence when playing a pc game ? It says that under windows 7 aero is stored on the graphics card .

[lilpooper]

Can I install OHII in the middle (Arctic Convoys) of the original campaign? Or will it make me start over?

[Hinrich Schwab]

Originally Posted by Trevally.

Hi Hinrich Schwab

The campaign engine for SH5 must have objectives set and these can only be one of three things:-

1. sink tonnage
2. sink ships by number
3. escort ships from a to b

Any campaign must use those to set missions and briefings.

The update I am working on will hide what is required.
So where in the past an objective may have been "sink 70,000 of the British coast" - it will now be "patrol the British coast".
The 70,000t requirment will still be there but just not seen. When it has been achieved, campaign stars will be issued etc.
The progress bar will still work - but you will not know how much you will have to sink. I am also changing the hidden numbers as I have now played through the campaign a few times and with feedback from this thread - I have a better idea what to set everything as

That is certainly not what I expected. Seeing those requirements makes me feel like I have some beamter sitting on my shoulder. Since you are working with feedback, I trust that you will have this balanced as best as you can with what you are able to work with.

[Trevally.]

Originally Posted by Hinrich Schwab

That is certainly not what I expected. Seeing those requirements makes me feel like I have some beamter sitting on my shoulder. Since you are working with feedback, I trust that you will have this balanced as best as you can with what you are able to work with.

Some feedback I can understand would be good - how would you like the objectives to look?

[Maki4444]

Since the game parameters limit the degree of change. Is it possible to replace objectives. For instance, in the Weserubung campaign. Is it possible to change the objective from "sink a british ship trying to enter norwegian coastal waters" with sink x tons of british shipping.

If that's the case then I would recommend using only sink x tonnage objectives since they are the closest to realiity. When was a U-boat assigned to sink a specific type of ship??? Okay tankers off the U.S. coast. But still what if a u boat didn't find any tankers but sunk a few merchant ships? Would that be considered a faliure?? Hell no!! You're alive, refit and go on patrol again. The whole purpose of patrols was to mount tonnage.

So perhaps you could just elaborate the story a bit. Like ruby's deutschmod. It doesn't just translate the mission description it adds one of its own. AND you get Wehrmacht reports on the radio. Very cool.

So you could just say bla bla bla. focus on british merchants, tankers are always a good prize bla bla. Then the player decides what to do.

This is where our immagination kicks in. It's a shame you can't fiddle with the objectives more. Because then we could just have patrol areas. Be assigned new ones via radio. 4000 t merchants would ammount to c medal points, tankers would ammount to 1.5 x medal points and so on.

Also. Have you considered implementing the kriegsmarine grid map into OH 2 v 2??

[vit90]

Originally Posted by sober

Does turning off aero make a diffrence when playing a pc game ? It says that under windows 7 aero is stored on the graphics card .

I not absolutely understood that you meant. Explain please in more detail.

[Trevally.]

Originally Posted by Maki4444

Since the game parameters limit the degree of change. Is it possible to replace objectives. For instance, in the Weserubung campaign. Is it possible to change the objective from "sink a british ship trying to enter norwegian coastal waters" with sink x tons of british shipping.

If that's the case then I would recommend using only sink x tonnage objectives since they are the closest to realiity. When was a U-boat assigned to sink a specific type of ship??? Okay tankers off the U.S. coast. But still what if a u boat didn't find any tankers but sunk a few merchant ships? Would that be considered a faliure?? Hell no!! You're alive, refit and go on patrol again. The whole purpose of patrols was to mount tonnage.

I think you are not understanding me here.
I can state the objectives as anything I want - but the awards must be based on either - sink ship, sink tonnage or escort ship.

So the brief and objective can say anything.

So perhaps you could just elaborate the story a bit. Like ruby's deutschmod. It doesn't just translate the mission description it adds one of its own. AND you get Wehrmacht reports on the radio. Very cool.

Can you post a screen shot of this - I am sure it is the same as OHII but translated into German

So you could just say bla bla bla. focus on british merchants, tankers are always a good prize bla bla. Then the player decides what to do.

The hint of this is already within the objective discription

This is where our immagination kicks in. It's a shame you can't fiddle with the objectives more. Because then we could just have patrol areas. Be assigned new ones via radio. 4000 t merchants would ammount to c medal points, tankers would ammount to 1.5 x medal points and so on.

This is also already within the mission based objectives

Also. Have you considered implementing the kriegsmarine grid map into OH 2 v 2??

Yes - and started doing it with wolfpack missions, but the modded KM grid does not go into small enough grids.



I think I may be added more confusion to this whole objective debate
It sounds like you guys are asking for things that I have already done

I will post a few screen shots of the new briefings so you can see

[lilpooper]

Originally Posted by lilpooper

Can I install OHII in the middle (Arctic Convoys) of the original campaign? Or will it make me start over?

Anyone?

And by start over I mean will I lose patrol history etc?

[Trevally.]

Originally Posted by lilpooper

Anyone?

And by start over I mean will I lose patrol history etc?

You can install it - yes
Best to save in the bunker - exit game - install OHII - load bunker save.

You may see the odd glitch with objectives in that campaign, but when you progress to the next one - OHII will be fully installed and working

[Trevally.]

Screen shot for the campaign objectives:-