US Politics Thread 2021-24

[Rockstar]

So what you're saying is you just didnt like Trump as a person. But you do seem to agree with Trump's policies either that you dont care one way or another about policies? I ask only because Biden hasn't made any significant changes to any of them and in fact increased support for those policies. In fact as Biden confessed, nothing will fundementally change

[mapuc]

It's only the Dems voters who cheat, we the Rep-voters are decent we don't do that.

Trump is loved by every American-so it can't be any than cheat in our latest election.

This is what I see, by reading comments around on the internet.

The real life.

There were attempt to cheat on both side.
(Can't say how many had luck in doing this)

Trump was loved by many, but the numbers who disliked him was a couple million more.

So there you have it-lets continue with this President and his doing and undoings.

Markus

[Rockstar]

Originally Posted by mapuc

It's only the Dems voters who cheat, we the Rep-voters are decent we don't do that.

Trump is loved by every American-so it can't be any than cheat in our latest election.

This is what I see, by reading comments around on the internet.

The real life.

There were attempt to cheat on both side.
(Can't say how many had luck in doing this)

Trump was loved by many, but the numbers who disliked him was a couple million more.

So there you have it-lets continue with this President and his doing and undoings.

Markus

The arguments and conspiracey theories over cheating can finally be put to rest. Just a few days ago Trump manned up and said what he should said December 14th 2020. "We didnt win" and to wish Biden well.

Better late than never I guess.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/andrews...h=4be05401403c

[3catcircus]

Originally Posted by Rockstar

The arguments and conspiracey theories over cheating can finally be put to rest. Just a few days ago Trump manned up and said what he should said December 14th 2020. "We didnt win" and to wish Biden well.

Better late than never I guess.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/andrews...h=4be05401403c

All that's doing is clearing the decks for a 2024 run. Conceding *doesn't* change whether or not Dems cheated (or Repubs for that matter). People seem to forget that both the Dems and Reps are unaccountable *private* entities that essentially have a monopoly on who is allowed to run for office in the US.

What we need in the US (and across the entire world) is to burn it all down. Every entrenched organization that is corruptible has been corrupted. We should gut the entire federal code and start fresh with just the Constitution. No pay and benefits for elected officials of any kind or for supreme court justices. No pensions. No lobbying of any kind if it involves any type of paid lobbying. No industry trade groups. No special interests. You, a private citizen, have something of concern? You bring it directly. No K-street white-shoe firms. No Wall street involvement of any kind other than increased scrutiny of the industry by competent regulators. Just average citizens elected for no more than two terms of office, period.

[Rockstar]

[MaDef]

Originally Posted by 3catcircus

All that's doing is clearing the decks for a 2024 run. Conceding *doesn't* change whether or not Dems cheated (or Repubs for that matter). People seem to forget that both the Dems and Reps are unaccountable *private* entities that essentially have a monopoly on who is allowed to run for office in the US.

What we need in the US (and across the entire world) is to burn it all down. Every entrenched organization that is corruptible has been corrupted. We should gut the entire federal code and start fresh with just the Constitution. No pay and benefits for elected officials of any kind or for supreme court justices. No pensions. No lobbying of any kind if it involves any type of paid lobbying. No industry trade groups. No special interests. You, a private citizen, have something of concern? You bring it directly. No K-street white-shoe firms. No Wall street involvement of any kind other than increased scrutiny of the industry by competent regulators. Just average citizens elected for no more than two terms of office, period.

The idea looks good on paper but is unworkable in practice. Best option is to disolve the Union.

[Rockstar]

Originally Posted by MaDef

The idea looks good on paper but is unworkable in practice. Best option is to disolve the Union.

Umm, Im for preserving Union at any and all cost. What Im for is an educated electorate which could hold politicians accountable and make the desired changes.

Anyway, more on how the liberal left and Democrat moron voters are no different than those other koolaid drinkers who believe Qanon conspiracy theories and why an educated electorate is unlikely to happen. Its not Qanon thats the problem its Blue-anon.

[Rockstar]

European trip a complete failure.

[Rockstar]

Trumps first instinct was to get out of Syria. But the Democrat liberal left morons fell for more Qanon type conspiracy theories. Believed the headlines without question.

I like how this Sachs identifies what most call the deep state as the "permanent state" the one where it doesnt matter who the president is. This state must really love having an old guy for president who cant do much more than drool on himself. Thanks to the permanent states use of headlines and media. The gullable war mongoring democrat koolaid drinking morons on the left who believed every word of it voted out the only president in a long time who went against the permanent state, we're still in Syria.

[Buddahaid]

Of course everyone that has a divergent viewpoint is sheeple. That's the overiding principal in a two party system.

I will throw out there that the Democrat's are a far more inclusive party than the Republican's who look to exclude those who don't vote the right way, are citizens of no account, are lesser humans and should be ignored.

On the other hand, left Democrats are just as stupid in the same regard but I still think it's a far more inclusive party overall. Voting should be easy and secure.

[u crank]

Originally Posted by Buddahaid

I will throw out there that the Democrat's are a far more inclusive party than the Republican's who look to exclude those who don't vote the right way, are citizens of no account, are lesser humans and should be ignored.

That may be true but often it is done for the wrong reasons. "I tell you what, if you have a problem figuring out whether you're for me or Trump, then you ain’t black." That kinda sums it up. What you have in America today is less about the political divide and more about a culture war.

[Rockstar]

Originally Posted by Buddahaid

Of course everyone that has a divergent viewpoint is sheeple. That's the overiding principal in a two party system.

I will throw out there that the Democrat's are a far more inclusive party than the Republican's who look to exclude those who don't vote the right way, are citizens of no account, are lesser humans and should be ignored.

On the other hand, left Democrats are just as stupid in the same regard but I still think it's a far more inclusive party overall. Voting should be easy and secure.

I'll throw out Kamala went to Guatemala and told anyone wanting to seek a better life in the U.S. to stay away. She didnt tell them the legal process of applying for a visa or citizenship. She didnt say a damn thing about "Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses …" Nope not that, not a word. The party of inclusivness said and I quote: "DO NOT COME".

Dems also continue to build the wall, place children in the cages Biden and Obama built and have rounded up and expelled more migrants than your boogy man Trump ever has.

Only ones I see Democrats wanting to include are alt-right voters. Team Blue-anon and team Q-anon wonder twin powers activate.

[3catcircus]

Originally Posted by Buddahaid

Of course everyone that has a divergent viewpoint is sheeple. That's the overiding principal in a two party system.

I will throw out there that the Democrat's are a far more inclusive party than the Republican's who look to exclude those who don't vote the right way, are citizens of no account, are lesser humans and should be ignored.

On the other hand, left Democrats are just as stupid in the same regard but I still think it's a far more inclusive party overall. Voting should be easy and secure.

You know who else was inclusive? Every communist party ever - so long as you unquestioningly follow every thing they say...

[Rockstar]

The party of inclusivness and their Blue-anon followers at Khive.

Using multiple accounts to circumvent suspension violates Twitter’s rules. In fact, KHive uses the very same tactics that Twitter banned Q-Anon accounts for using. Yet still to this day, KHive proudly admits to circumventing suspensions as far back as 2015, and remains on Twitter.

In June 2020, Delarosa unleashed a call for murderous violence: “Like actually killing people for not agreeing”; mocked people promoting MLK as “too soft”; and laughed about breaking someone’s nose with one punch, while blaming the victim – “It’s his fault,” she stated.

Such declarations of violence may be why the Harris-friendly media makes little to no mention of the Queen Bee. However, there was one particularly ironic exception to the code of silence around the KHive’s menacing behavior: MSNBC’s Malcolm Nance. On Twitter, the network’s national security contributor acknowledged that some KHive tweets “openly expressed racism & violent threats”, and asked his followers to report Delarosa.

Instead of being suspended, Delarosa was hailed as KHive’s “brilliant” inspiration.

In its fawning depiction of KHive, the LA Times failed to mention that its members have taken their harassment campaigns beyond Twitter and into people’s personal lives.

Two women told HuffPost that KHive members made threats against their children.

KHive contacted one woman’s ex-husband at his place of employment to tell him he should check on their 11-year old daughter. KHive members accused another woman of being a “white supremacist,” calling her place of work 15 times to get her fired. Then someone filed a report with child protection services and falsely accused her of child abuse.

https://thegrayzone.com/2021/04/16/k...ls-harassment/

[MaDef]

Umm, Im for preserving Union at any and all cost. What Im for is an educated electorate which could hold politicians accountable and make the desired changes.

Why? the bureaucrats (eg., political parties) are running the Country, the politicians aren't rank and file citizens anymore but are from families for whom politician is the family business eg., Bush, Clinton, Long, Daley, Kennedy, etc. (to many to list)
They aren't interested in governing, but in maintaining their power, and making citizens dependent on the government, and almost every law and policy they enact does precisely that.