UK Politics Thread

[Jimbuna]

Hopefully matters will not escalate between the UK and our 'friends and allies'

The EU has told British fishermen they are indefinitely banned from selling live mussels, oysters, clams, cockles and scallops to its member states.

As the UK is now a separate country, it is not allowed to transport the animals to the EU unless they have already been treated in purification plants.

But the industry says it does not have enough tanks ready and the process can slow exports, making them less viable.

The government promised to continue to "raise the issue" with the EU.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-55903599

[Catfish]

"As the UK is now a separate country, it is not allowed to transport the animals to the EU unless they have already been treated in purification plants."
WTO rules?

[Skybird]

Muscles - brrrrr....

Some things I only would consider for eating after I crashed with an airplane in the heart of the rain forest. Also, muscles, filter feeders that they are, are formidable pollutant collectors. Eating them is like using the content of a vacuumcleaner's tank as a spice in the kitchen.

Im with the EU on this. Britain, keep your muscles to yourself.


For a comparable reason I have skipped thuna - much liked - from my card with preferred fish. They live long and thus also collect a lot of bad stuff. Fishes with short life spans are better, or from aquafarms that are well-run (never from south America or Asia for that reason, please).

[Jimbuna]

Oh I know that but I'm simply wondering if we are seing the beginning of a series of 'tit for tat' measures which will eventually lead to the demise of the recently agreed treaty.

[Catfish]

What was done with those mussles and clams before?
Were there cleaning tanks on the EU coasts to be used by english fishery before selling? What does the WTO say? I have no idea.

I do not like this stuff anyway, interesting when diving or in an aquarium, but eating?

The way it is presented here looks like tit for tat, though a lot of the latter was mostly coming from the always exceptional UK side. Maybe "17 million f'offs" were perceived as they were meant, by the rest of the EU's 430 million population

I take it they will solve the problem, after all it is in no one's interest to block any products. Some points have obviously not been made clear, or are missing in those 2000+ pages


edit: personally, we are already running into difficulties getting automotive spare parts from England, so some are now ordering elsewhere. We are trying to switch over to personal im- and exports. This may only work in a tiny fraction of trade cases of course..

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The UK's chief Brexit negotiator has criticised the EU for its actions since the trade deal agreed by the two sides came into force six weeks ago.

Lord David Frost said the relationship had been "more than bumpy" and more "problematic" than he had hoped.

He told a committee the EU's threat to increase controls on vaccine exports to Northern Ireland, as well as "niggling border issues", were two examples.

Lord Frost called for "a different spirit" from Brussels going forward.

Asked about his thoughts on the situation, Cabinet Officer Minister Michael Gove compared it to a bumpy start to a flight, saying: "We all know that when an aeroplane takes off, that is the point where you sometime get an increased level of turbulence.

"But eventually, you then reach a cruising altitude and the crew tell you to take your seatbelt off and enjoy a gin and tonic and some peanuts."

He added: "We are not at the gin and tonic and peanut stage yet, but I am confident we will be."
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-56002176

[Skybird]

What folly are they talking?


There is a treaty, there are paragraphs in it, these have been negotiated, and they better have been negotiated well, and these will - at least should - be followed by the letter. End of story.


Gin Tonic. Cruising altitude. Nonsense.

[Catfish]

Originally Posted by Jimbuna

[...] Lord Frost called for "a different spirit" from Brussels going forward. [...]

He calls for the european spirit?

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by Skybird

What folly are they talking?


There is a treaty, there are paragraphs in it, these have been negotiated, and they better have been negotiated well, and these will - at least should - be followed by the letter. End of story.


Gin Tonic. Cruising altitude. Nonsense.

Well it is Gove after all

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