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04-14-21, 04:35 AM | #106 | |
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But as I have put Us contribution into relation already. That linked article from 2016 or when it was, some posts before, describds the problem quite well.
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04-15-21, 09:57 AM | #107 |
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Ukrainian military convoy. Their equipment is in much better shape than the last time around:
https://twitter.com/i/status/1382365505919533057
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04-15-21, 10:14 AM | #108 | |
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Wasnt this used by CNN as footage depicting Russian troops massing on the border? hehe No doubt Ukraine has hardware but I think where they have problems is their lack of parts and logistics to keep those machines moving.
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04-15-21, 10:48 AM | #109 |
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As I understand it the Ukrainian army has been fighting Russian supported "forgot what they are called" Some say that many of these where ordinary Russian soldier without the flag on their shoulders.
So how well trained are the Ukrainian in open war against Russia ? Markus
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04-15-21, 12:11 PM | #110 | |
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04-15-21, 12:50 PM | #111 | |
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You also have a lot of veteran units since even though it does not get reported much, there has been a low level war going on since then with many 1-2 day ops to capture or defend key terrain positions. But as Jim says, if the Russians mass everything, they should be able to roll over them. It won't be pretty though and the Russians will suffer a lot of casualties.
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04-15-21, 01:19 PM | #112 |
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From a Twitter "source":
"110,000 Russian troops are at the border, according to Ukrainian military intel. 35,000 Russian troops are in occupied Donbas plus ~40,000 in occupied Crimea. Russia says it has 2 armies and 3 airborne divisions in Belarus. 1,700 Russian troops are in occupied Trans-Dniester."
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04-15-21, 01:40 PM | #113 | |
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Can we trust this "source" If true what does all this mean today and for the future ? Markus
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04-16-21, 06:41 AM | #114 | |
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Good ol' reliable Joe, so much for that show of support. I wonder what he meant when he said 'we support you Ukraine'
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04-16-21, 07:12 AM | #115 | |
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But the Ukraine has all reason to be afraid of Russia of course, and since there is obviously no one to help them (apart from windy speeches and such) it may well be that Russia will "peacefully help the russian-speaking majority to reunite with Russia" as you will read in Tass or RT. During the german invasion of the Ukraine there is often (by Russia) mentioned the will to collaborate with the invaders, but this is not quite true - there was resistance against Germany as there was against Russia, the Russians were regarded as equally foreign, and thus rejected. This is howver only true for the western part of the Ukraine. "Resistance in general The resistance in Ukraine was directed against Poles, Communists or the Red Army and / or the Germans during the Second World War, in historical or chronological order . The main problem here is that in some cases, due to the coupled appearance of the enemy troops, a ranking had to be made and in some cases strange alliances were created, as well as the struggle of individual organizations that finally took place in parallel against all, i.e. Russians, Poles and Germans , proceeded. [6]" https://translate.google.com/transla...ten_Weltkriegs As you see theer was a lot of resistance against the Soviet-Russian occupation from 1944 on. It is quite complex, but denigrating the western part to be corrupt i'd say they are as "corrupt" as the US, UK or EU. "Corruption" is of course an idea that has been brought up and distributed by Trump, since the former democrat government was heavily involved in helping the Ukraine, and was alone therefore condemned by republicans. I have no idea, question is indeed whether "the west" should just stand and spectate if Putin really invaded, another question is if Putin would stop after "freeing" the Donbas region of the Ukraine.
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04-21-21, 10:21 AM | #116 | ||
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War drums are beating
Master chess player Putin has spoken https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world...?ocid=BingNews Quote:
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04-21-21, 11:10 AM | #117 |
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^ I predict as it's only a matter of time before Putin gives the go-ahead order to his troops.
The second quote I guess it's addressed to NATO as a warning. Could also mean that country outside Russia shouldn't interfere with their domestic problems with political opponent. Markus
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04-21-21, 11:37 AM | #118 |
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I don't see it that way, people were worried that Putin would announce war or an invasion or recognize the independence of the "Donetsk" republics.
He did none of that. His speech was short (by Russian standards) and focused almost exclusively on domestic issues. What he said on foreign policy is the same kind of diplomatic wording the Russians have been using for decades, so nothing to see here. According to analysts, the odds of any kind of invasion of Ukraine is rapidly disappearing. To me it is a big smoke screen, while everyone is focused on Ukraine, no one is reporting that Russia is solidifying its control over Belarus...
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04-21-21, 12:09 PM | #119 |
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This is very interesting
We have a different view and understanding on Putin speech to the union. What did he exactly say and what did he mean by it ? Markus
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04-21-21, 02:59 PM | #120 | |
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I thought Putin was talking to President Biden not to interfere with Russia in any way or you will face certain rebuke in a way that we have not responded to before.
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