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Old 07-10-23, 01:06 PM   #11791
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Good idea and I should imagine Poland would welcome the chance....the only downside would be NATO being seen as being more involved.
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Old 07-10-23, 01:38 PM   #11792
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Good idea and I should imagine Poland would welcome the chance....the only downside would be NATO being seen as being more involved.
The CEO of Rheinmetall, Armin Papperger, said he is not afraid of Russian retaliation and assured that the company has already taken all necessary measures to protect its assets and personnel in Ukraine. “There are a lot of factories at the moment which are producing military goods [in Ukraine]. It is just another one. And we can protect that also,” Papperger said.
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Old 07-10-23, 02:11 PM   #11793
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Had posted this before, but now watched it to the end.
It will not get better until some drastic changes are being made. I take it the free world has to declare war on Russia to once and for all remove this "government".

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Old 07-10-23, 02:29 PM   #11794
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I hope it would not come so far that NATO have to declare war on Russia in order to remove Putin.

However as the war goes on in Ukraine though higher is the risc NATO gets involved more and more than they are today.

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Old 07-10-23, 03:12 PM   #11795
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Glad to announce that after the meeting I hosted with @RTErdogan & @SwedishPM, President Erdogan has agreed to forward #Sweden's accession protocol to the Grand National Assembly ASAP & ensure ratification. This is an historic step which makes all #NATO Allies stronger & safer. https://twitter.com/jensstoltenberg/...84703060324359
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It is not about Putin anymore. This sick cleptocracy system has to be destroyed, the leaders do not care the slightest about their people. The russian people have shown they cannot do it, just like with Germany until 1945 or China right now.
Once a psychopath acquqires all the power and uses it for decades, the whole govenment and system is poisoned and spoilt. Medjedjev will not be any better, and you can only hope that Prigozhin or some decalcomania will not be the next "leader" [sic!]. This is a fascist state with a Mafia at the helm.
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It is not about Putin anymore. This [sick I]system[/I] has to be destroyed, the leaders do not care the slightest about their people. The russian people have shown they cannot do it, just like with Germany until 1945 or China right now.
Once a psychopath acquqires all the power and uses it for decades, the whole govenment and system is poisoned and spoilt. Medjedjev will not be any better, and you can only hope that Prigozhin or some decalcomania will not be the next "leader" [sic!]. This is a fascist state with a Mafia at the helm.
And this can not be done by outsiders, Russia has to do it themselves.
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Old 07-10-23, 03:33 PM   #11798
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And this can not be done by outsiders, Russia has to do it themselves.
Will we see a second revolution in Russia ? If so, when will the people have enough of this war..?
Already now there sabotage against military installations and other military complex.

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Will we see a second revolution in Russia ? If so, when will the people have enough of this war..?
Already now there sabotage against military installations and other military complex.

Glad Turkey have said yes to Sweden.

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Revolutions are hard to predict even Lenin had it wrong several times he did not see the revolution of 1917 the whole leadership of the Bolshevik were even not in Russia when it happend. The local Bolshevik were against the strike of women in St Petersburg that was the start of the revolution. Lenin was acutely aware that revolutions occur because of spontaneous combustions that no one, including the revolutionaries, can predict. The February 1917 revolution was, like the French storming of the Bastille, an unexpected and unplanned popular eruption. As the hapless Alexander Kerensky pointed out, the Russian Revolution “came of its own accord, unengineered by anyone, born in the chaos of the collapse of Tsardom.” This is true for all revolutions. The tinder is there. What sets it alight is a mystery.
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You do not really expect the russian people to be asked by their fascist "leader"?
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Will we see a second revolution in Russia ? If so, when will the people have enough of this war..?
The questionnaires were lost in the mail.
Just like the ones in the USA.
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You do not really expect the russian people to be asked by their fascist "leader"?
No not from their leaders no. From our news source which reach more and more Russians.

They try to prevent them from getting knowledge about the war.

Even the Russians bloggers are starting to write the truth about the war.

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The questionnaires were lost in the mail.
Just like the ones in the USA.
The video explains why they were "lost" in the US
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No not from their leaders no. From our news source which reach more and more Russians.
They try to prevent them from getting knowledge about the war.
Fair enough, yes.
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The latter is because a lot of them are "disenchanted" with the result. They begin to realize they are losing. It is not because they think that war is bad, or that Putin is a reckless dictator, also being a bad statesman and an idiot.
Make no mistake, it is just because they do not win.
No idea or care about losses, no idea about who started this, no idea about their own people, humanity or caring for anyone.
They can go to HELL.
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The video explains why they were "lost" in the US
"Presidents"
The video might explain it but.....
What the hell is a free country?
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