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Old 07-05-23, 04:27 PM   #11701
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Some pretty russian fireworks from 0:40 on

"Footage of the attack in Makeevka yesterday. Russian forces stored a lot of ammunition in the yard of an unfinished residential area which caused an explosion.
Not Hospital #2 but an ammuniton site created by your forces right next to it, professional liar Denis Pushilin."


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Old 07-06-23, 05:30 AM   #11703
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https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/f...aine-rcna92610


How does this look for Ukrainian eyes...?


Two thigns I do not like: first, the Ukrainians are not involved, second I wonder whether Putin really allows "track 2" personnel acting in his regime as pendants to the American crew.
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Old 07-06-23, 08:56 AM   #11706
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I don't believe NATO will put troops on the ground in Ukraine.
That said I don't know if NATO will intervene if Russia do threaten to blow up nuclear powerplant.

False flag, no this is not in the nature of Ukraine to do so. They would lose a lot more than winning on it.

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Old 07-06-23, 09:03 AM   #11707
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Desperate Putin sends rusting tanks 'as ancient as woolly mammoth’s poo' into Ukraine.(video in link)

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Old 07-06-23, 09:48 AM   #11708
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They use old tanks since long time now - in fixed positions as stationary artillery (with greater resistance to secondary effects of enemy shelling than plain howitzers or self propelled astillery).

And what should one say. Their defence lines hold so far.

Those guns still make Boom, and where their rounds impact it still makes Bang. Plenty of targets out there that these old callibres still can penetrate. Even MBTs, if hit right. Certainly IFVs and APCs.

I become more and more pessimistic. I think the Ukrainians will not make it to the coast of the Asov Sea. I would not complain to be shown wrong by time. This offensive will fade out with some minor territorial gains of no real strategic importance and then frozen frontlines. That scenario I now give 60-70% probability.


They had a too bad start, trying to implement US doctrine of assault with amassed mechanised forces. The thing that was terribly violating that doctrine is that the doctrine wants this to be done under air cover if not air superiority. The Ukraine has none. The result was messy. The costs are felt. Mine clearing equipment is short in supply already now - and they are not even up to - not to mention: through - the first defence line of the Russians. I do not see how they could fulfill Zelensky's claim to "liberate all occupied territories", including Crimea.


That masses of Russian tourists storm Crimea for holiday, speaks volumes.
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US plans to supply Ukraine with cluster munitions

https://www.reuters.com/world/us-exp...yt-2023-07-06/
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Kyiv are now reporting the Russians may have 'faked out# the Ukrainians by planting false explosives at the Zaporizhzhia nuclear plant.

I bloody well hope so.
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Old 07-06-23, 12:49 PM   #11712
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So.....
Are We now to the stage of False FALSE FLAGS?
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Christ only knows but I did read an article earlier where a so-called nuclear 'expert' stated that in the event of a reactor being blown up in his opinion the fallout would be about twenty miles max. I still wouldn't like to chance it though.
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  • Military formations drawn from across Russia are currently bearing the brunt of Ukraine’s counteroffensive.
  • In Zaporizhzhia Oblast, the 58th Combined Arms Army is defending heavily entrenched lines; normally it secures Russia’s volatile Caucasus region. Around Velyka Novosilka, the 5th Combined Arms Army and Naval Infantry hold the front; they are routinely based, 7000 km away as a balance to Chinese power.
  • Around Bakhmut, the defence is now largely formed around airborne regiments normally stationed in western Russia, who normally act as an elite rapid reaction force in case of tensions with NATO. The way Russia is accepting risks across Eurasia highlights how the war has dislocated Russia’s established national strategy.
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Meh. Give it time and We'll see a False, False, FALSE FLAG.
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