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06-07-23, 07:18 AM | #11237 |
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Practically all media now have agreed to the narrative that external forces of nature and previosu damage sot the dam alone could not have led to the breaching, and that the destruction results from an explsion form inside the dam. Together this rates as practical evidence, AFAICS, that the dem was indeed blown up by Russia, sinc eonly Russian troops had access to the dam in the past months. The amphibous assault attempt south of Cherson and the overall offensive of the ukriane, a swell as the historic porecedences, the deliberate planning of the Siovjat Union ti use dams as trioggerable obstacles againmst enemy attacks, anbd the genweral disrespect of Russia for human life, that of civilians and that of even its own soldiers alike, provide a convincing the motive.
However, a surprise this action cannot have been to anyone. I already asked about the dam last late summer when the Ukrainians had their first offensive out of the starting block. The Ukrainian authorities in plac obviously alos were not surprised, but had plans prepared in the past months. In a bitter way this even could work for Ukraine in a scenario where they lack the power to retake ground by force and must try to retake Crimea by besieging it. If they then also destroy the Kerch bridge completely, no more sweet water will go into Crimea. Russian autorities say the regional reservoirs currently are filled to 80%, which means, translated from the Russian into realistic language, that it probably is less. The bad side of it: not only Russian occupiers will be thirsty, but civilians as well (many of them being pro-Russian, Crimea was, before the war, the only oblast where a clearly identified majority of people of I think around 56% were pro-Russian: to what degree this has changed upwards or downwards I have no clue, in Odessa for example even a huge majority of former pro-Russians were turned by Russian actions into strong supporters of the Ukrainian cause, and turned against Russia). Also, like flooding and washout from it, dry erosion also destroys fertile agricultural farmland, that once destroyed takes generations and generations to be rebuild. This also could be an explanation why the Russians destroyed the dam: because they expect to be not able to keep Crimea, so they leave just scorched earth.
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06-07-23, 07:43 AM | #11238 |
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Never mind the dam, watch the video posted in #11234 from 8 minutes onwards.
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06-07-23, 07:55 AM | #11239 | |
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06-07-23, 08:48 AM | #11240 | |
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[FR] In a video interview with the Donbass Today telegram channel, he [Prigoschin) said, "I am afraid that they are toying with the idea of dropping a small nuclear bomb on their own territory. It's scary to drop it on foreign territory, but we can hit our own to show how sick and psychotic we are." Thus, he said, the nuclear strike could be aimed at a Russian village in the Belgorod region, which in the future would be occupied by forces from Ukraine. We must make sure to catch it on video, and then broadcast it across all Russia.
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06-07-23, 08:56 AM | #11241 |
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^ Thank you
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06-07-23, 09:02 AM | #11242 | |
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So easy to blame someone who's hardly in a position to defend themselves.
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06-07-23, 12:51 PM | #11244 |
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Switzerland Supports Allows Arms Re-Export to Ukraine Switzerland's Council of States, the upper house of parliament, has approved an amendment that will allow arms re-export to Ukraine. "Countries that purchase Swiss war material should be allowed, subject to conditions, to re-export it to countries involved in armed conflicts," the parliament press service stated. The decision is taken by 22 in favor and 17 against votes, with four abstentions. According to the amendment, purchaser countries of Swiss weapons will still have to sign a declaration prohibiting re-export, but its term may be limited to five years. Re-export will only be possible to destination countries that do not violate human rights and do not use weapons against civilian populations. On June 1, the National Council, the lower house of the Swiss parliament, voted against an amendment that would allow the re-export of Swiss-made weaponry to third countries, such as Ukraine. Since the Russian invasion of Ukraine, several countries have approached Switzerland requesting permission to re-export Swiss weapons from their arsenal to Kyiv. For example, Germany wanted to provide ammunition for Gepard anti-aircraft systems and machine gun ammunition to Ukraine. Denmark approached Bern for permission to supply Piranha III armoured personnel carriers to Ukraine. However, Switzerland rejected both requests, which drew international criticism. https://www.eurointegration.com.ua/e.../06/7/7163221/ |
06-07-23, 01:12 PM | #11245 |
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06-07-23, 02:06 PM | #11246 | |
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I was just describing that the burden of evidence is against the Russians now, that all seem to agree on this. Initially there were suggestions that the damage to the dam, visible already several days before, may have caused the collapse. I stayed open to this possibility while the story unfold. But now no more. The evidence seems to be very clear. I say "seems", intentionally, and often. This is war. Media get manipulated by both sides, intel services are involved from all sides. The news is a war zone. Its important to keep that on mind. See how the story on the Nord Stream 2 pipeline explosions has turned. The scenario that initially was thought to be the most unlikely - is now the main suspect.
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06-07-23, 03:22 PM | #11248 |
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Will we ever know who did it ?
Yes Russia has most to win on this. Markus
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