UK Politics Thread part II

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Rishi Sunak defends his Rwanda bill as "the right approach" as pressure mounts within the Tory party and a minister quits.

The PM says the bill is the "toughest immigration law ever" and insists it will successfully prevent further legal challenges stopping flights taking off to the East African country.

But he admits that the European Court of Human Rights will still be able to challenge asylum seeker deportations.

Robert Jenrick earlier quit as immigration minister over the new law, saying it wasn't tough enough.

Ex-Home Secretary Suella Braverman echoed his criticism and said it would not effectively stop Channel crossings.

But Sunak says going any further will risk sinking the policy altogether.

The PM also confirmed that the Commons vote on the Rwanda bill next week will not be treated as a confidence vote in his government.

Aside from the new law, the government has also signed a new treaty with Rwanda declaring that it is a safe country to try and get the policy implemented.

It comes after the Supreme Court blocked it, saying Rwanda was not safe and could return refugees to the countries they fled.

Take note of the important bit then possibly prepare for another unelected pm or possibly even an announcement of a general election.

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And they’re off: Kemi Badenoch takes an early lead in the Tory leadership stakes

We have not one but two articles by Conservative leadership candidates in the newspapers this morning. Kemi Badenoch, the business secretary, has an article in The Sun saying Brexit was a vote of confidence in the country. And Robert Jenrick, described by the online version of The Daily Telegraph as “immigration minister”, which was his job until Wednesday, has written a longer version of his resignation letter.

The collapse in Tory discipline has been so rapid that someone who is well connected to what he calls “the party in the shires” has mentioned Bob Hawke to me. This is code between us for a late change of leadership before an election, which is what the Australian Labor Party did in 1983. After the election was called, it ditched Bill Hayden, its uninspiring leader, and put Hawke in. He went on to win not just that election but three more.
That late switch was made in opposition, but it can be done in government. Anthony Eden went to the country immediately on taking office in April 1955, and in that election increased the Tory majority from 17 to 60. Boris Johnson is the only other recent example, managing to convince his opponents to give him the election he wanted three months after he became leader in 2019.

Those cases are both very different from the situation now, however. Eden was popular and had been the heir presumptive for some time; and the economy was booming. Johnson was quite popular, and many voters accepted that an election was needed to break the Brexit deadlock.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/other...b72e4b65&ei=18

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MPs who lose at general election to get taxpayer-funded help finding jobs

The MPs who are defeated at the next year’s general election will get taxpayer-funded support to find a new job.

House of Commons authorities are examining ways to deliver a new “career transition” scheme for politicians before voters go to the polls in 2024.

Officials are looking to pay a recruitment firm to help with CV writing and job coaching, the BBC first reported.

A Commons spokesperson confirmed to The Independent the programme was “due to be in place” in time for the next election.

It comes in response to report by a committee of MPs that said many departing MPs struggled after leaving parliament – urging a series changes to make the job more attractive to aspiring politicians.

The cross-party group recommended that MPs should get medals and more generous redundancy payments in help them after life in parliament.
For MPs defeated at the 2019 election, the average loss-of-office payment was £5,250 – equivalent to just under one month of their £84,000 salary.

The committee found that Westminster’s pay-outs compared poorly with comparable countries, with an ousted MP in Germany who has served for 18 years getting £162,000 compensation.

“This could be an event with family and friends and / or presentation with a medallion of service,” the MPs in the Commons administration select committee said, in a suggestion which raised eyebrows.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknew...b72e4b65&ei=26

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Tories facing general election wipeout with just 130 seats, says polling guru

Rishi Sunak’s Conservatives are facing their worst ever result at the general election and could be left with just 130 seats, according to Professor Sir John Curtice.

The country’s top polling guru warned of the bleak situation faced by the Tories as they head into winter with the news dominated by infighting over the prime minister’s Rwanda deportation plan.

Prof Curtice said Mr Sunak’s party would be “lucky to win [many] more than 200 seats” and could see an even worse result if its dire poll ratings continued.

“If these patterns were to be replicated in a general election, the outcome for the Conservatives could be bleak indeed – maybe as few as 130 seats, the worst outcome in the party’s history,” he wrote for The Sunday Telegraph.
The outcome would be even worse than the 165 seats the Tories were left with in 1997, when the party, then led by John Major, was thumped by Tony Blair’s Labour – which won a landslide 179-seat majority.

With Labour enjoying a consistent polling lead of close to 20 points, Prof Curtice said voters appear to have “stopped listening” to the Tories on the big issues.

He warned Mr Sunak that his recent anti-immigration push had “not gone well”. The elections expert said it looked like the Rwanda bill “could divide the party just as [Theresa] May’s ill-fated Brexit deal did in 2019”.

On the major split currently looming in response to Mr Sunak’s plans, Prof Curtice wrote: “Divided parties rarely prosper at the polls. In pursuing their disagreements with Mr Sunak over immigration, Tory MPs should realise they are potentially playing with fire.”

He added: “Even though the polls have repeatedly indicated that the government’s Rwanda policy is relatively popular – at least among those who voted Conservative in 2019 – the first polls since this week’s developments suggest they also are unlikely to move the electoral dial.”

He continued: “We should not be surprised. Although many 2019 Conservative voters are unhappy about the level of legal and ‘illegal’ immigration, those who feel that immigration has gone up a lot are not especially likely to say they will not vote Conservative again.”

There is speculation at Westminster that Mr Sunak may be forced into a snap election in the early part of 2024 if he struggles to get his Rwanda bill through parliament.

But cabinet minister Michael Gove insisted that Mr Sunak’s government is “not contemplating” holding an early general election if the Rwanda bill is voted down. Asked if it was an option, the senior Sunak ally told Sky News: “No, we’re not contemplating that.”
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknew...46cbcea9c&ei=8

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Conservative MPs are debating Prime Minister Rishi Sunak's updated plan to send some asylum seekers to Rwanda.

The scheme is designed to send people who arrive in the UK in small boats to Rwanda to have their asylum claim considered.

Some Tory factions are critical of the updated plan, with MPs on the right saying it risks being blocked by the courts again, while others say it ignores international law.

The European Research Group says it provides a "partial and incomplete solution" to the problem of legal challenges being used to delay people being flown to Rwanda.

The group's legal team says the bill does not go "far enough to deliver the policy as intended"

Changes were needed after the UK's highest court blocked the scheme in November, saying asylum seekers could be sent to places where they could be harmed.

The government has signed a new deal with the east African nation, which declares Rwanda a safe country.

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It would appear that the traitor is attempting to distract from his scandal-ridden party and his government's incompetence on a whole host of issues instead of focussing on the global cost-of-living crisis and matters that affect Scottish peoples day to day difficulties.

Humza Yousaf flies EU flag daily but refuses to fly Union flag in treacherous move

Humza Yousaf has demanded that the European flag be flown daily from Scottish Government buildings

Scotland's First Minister is following in the footsteps of his predecessor Nicola Sturgeon with that request.

Scottish Conservative deputy spokesperson for the constitution, external affairs and culture Alexander Stewart MSP said: "Humza Yousaf - just like his predecessor - clearly wants to play petty politics on the issue of flags.

Official guidance published on Monday states: "The First Minister has instructed that the European flag is flown from [Scottish Government] buildings. This will be on a daily basis except for specific flag flying dates."

The Union flag to be hoisted just once a year on Remembrance Day.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world...fdd11df6&ei=23

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Rishi goes to war with Tory Right: PM insists he WON'T retreat over Rwanda plan after 'bacon sandwich showdown' in No10 with furious rebels who fear vote tonight is 'last chance' to toughen Bill - as panicking whips drag minister back from Abu Dhabi

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...mons-vote.html

@Rishi, piss off back to India you bleeding Twonk and take that tax dodging bitch of a wife with you.

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Well now, this certainly takes the biscuit!

Fortunately the British taxpayer is paying their legal aid bills so they won't be out of pocket

Migrants who crossed Channel in boats claim damages for ‘unlawful’ treatment

Sixteen asylum seekers who crossed the Channel in small boats three years ago have made damages claims against the Home Office after complaining about their treatment on arrival in England, a High Court judge has heard.

The migrants have complained about “unlawful” searches, mobile phone seizures and “data extraction”, “non-return” of “items”, or possessions being returned “damaged”, Mr Justice Nicklin was told on Tuesday.

Lawyers representing ministers indicated that claims were being disputed.

Mr Justice Nicklin, who oversaw a preliminary High Court hearing in Court 13 at the Royal Courts of Justice complex in London, said the case would be reconsidered next year.

The judge said the migrants could not be named in media reports of the case.
He said issues relating to the reporting of names would be reconsidered at another hearing.

A barrister representing the migrants indicated that each was claiming about £20,000.

“Between 25 April and 6 November 2020, the claimants crossed the English Channel in small boats from Calais,” Eric Metcalfe told the judge in a written case outline.

“On their arrival in the UK, each of the claimants claimed asylum.

“They were also searched – in some case strip-searched – by (Home Office) officials.

“Among other things, the (Home Office) seized their mobile phones and any SIM cards and told them they were required to provide their PIN codes.”

He added: “In every case, the (Home Office) failed to return the claimants’ phones and SIM cards for a period of several months.”

Mr Metcalfe indicated that claimants were getting legal aid.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknew...5dc67722&ei=19

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^It doesn't surprise me one bit, I wonder how much they've scrounged off the taxpayer since they've been here, @Rishi Sunak, I have the answer to all these migrant scum if you'd just listen.

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Todays pantomime offering from Westminster....sometimes referred to as PMQ's

Keir Starmer says "yet again, the Tory Party is in meltdown" as he faces Rishi Sunak at the final Prime Minister's Questions of 2023

But Sunak defends his government's record in 2023, claiming falling inflation, a growing economy, "tax cuts coming", and boats "down by a third"

Starmer also says nearly 140,000 children are going to be homeless this Christmas - "a shocking state of affairs"

But Sunak says rough sleeping is down by 35%, with hundreds of thousands fewer children in poverty, "thanks to this government"

Yesterday evening, Sunak's flagship policy to send some asylum seekers to Rwanda cleared its first hurdle in the Commons.

Sunak saw off a Tory rebellion, with none of his own MPs voting against the plan despite threats to do so - though some abstained.

MPs also pay tribute to Mark Drakeford - who earlier announced he was stepping down as Welsh first minister.

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Doncaster MP Nick Fletcher compared to Enoch Powell and dubbed "Nazi" after "racist" speech

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/other...112a0d41&ei=42

The usual Twonks and dick heads call Nick Fletcher either a racist or a nazi, I would ask these pillocks if they'd ever been to Doncaster?, but I already know that they haven't.
I was in Doncaster about 4 years ago and it was a migrant cesspit then, I would assume that Mr Fletcher is speaking truthfully about the scale of the problems in Doncaster, the migrant locals were mostly from Pakistan, the Middle East or Africa when I was last there and the odds of it improving are about -95%, you'll also find out that the council leaders are the usual leftie bleeding dick heads of the Labour Party.

@Sunak, £1 a head for each migrant plus expenses for the rope, just give me the nod you bleeding currant.

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