Here we go again-Ukraine once again pt2

[mapuc]

Latest from ISW as of 10 Sept.

Ukrainian forces continued to advance south of Robotyne in western Zaporizhia Oblast and reportedly advanced near Bakhmut on September 10.

Geolocated footage posted on September 10 shows that Ukrainian forces have advanced east of Novoprokopivka (18km southeast of Orikhiv).

Ukrainian Tavriisk Group of Forces Spokesperson Oleksandr Shtupun noted that Ukrainian forces continue to advance near Robotyne (12km south of Orikhiv) and have liberated 1.5 square kilometers of territory in this direction.

The Ukrainian General Staff and Ukrainian Eastern Group of Forces Spokesperson Ilya Yevlash reported that Ukrainian forces achieved unspecified success near Klishchiivka (7km southwest of Bakhmut) in Donetsk Oblast.

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America must send long-range missiles and speed up the delivery of fighter jets to Ukraine, one of the West's most experienced commanders told the Telegraph. Retired four-star general David Petraeus, who led coalition forces in Iraq and Afghanistan, said Washington and other Western governments had to "get past" attempts to block Kyiv from vital aid.

He said the US should end its opposition to sending the Army Tactical Missile System (Atacms), which has a range of nearly 200 miles, while other leaders should increase their own long-range support. His intervention came as Ukraine edged closer to breaking through Russia's three-tiered defensive system, giving its forces a clearer route to the Azov coast as they bid to drive a wedge between Moscow's occupying forces.

Read more here: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-ne...-jets-ukraine/

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Originally Posted by mapuc

Latest from ISW as of 10 Sept.



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Ukrainian Defense Forces have now liberated 49 Sq Km in the direction of Bakhmut. https://twitter.com/SarahAshtonLV/st...36507305324714
In the direction of Tavria, which includes part of southern Donetsk Oblast, Ukrainian Defense Forces have liberated 256.5 Sq Km. https://twitter.com/SarahAshtonLV/st...36840991617312
7 Russian ammunition depots were destroyed in Tavria direction today. https://twitter.com/SarahAshtonLV/st...37540484080038

[mapuc]

It's looking good in these areas. Hopefully Ukraine will remain their momentum during the late autumn and winter.

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Originally Posted by mapuc

It's looking good in these areas. Hopefully Ukraine will remain their momentum during the late autumn and winter.

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50:50 they can, but thigns will surely slow down. Last winter was mild. Meteorologists say that El Nino causes warmer winters in Europe (elsewhere on the panet it does different things). Warm winter means less frozen ground. Tracks and wheels like either dry ground or frozen ground, not soaking wet and muddy ground.



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The EU still has not gotten its homework on ammunition production done, its unbelievable, 18 months into the war, and they still reject that they need to switch to war production, partially at least.



Germany's feminist Super-Anni visited Kyiv. She offered much massively and mightily impressive word thunder, and when asked about Taurus immediately got tight-lipped.



I think that in 2024 at the latest there needs to be a debate and a deicison soon on allow9i8ng Ukriane to use Westenr wepaons to strike into Russia. How should they win oin theirt homgrowns when we demand them to giv eRussia save havens? I asked the same quesiton in different context before, in other threads: how cna oen expect to win the Vietnam war if allowing China and stockpiled ressources save haven around Hanoi?


Its always politicians coming up with the stupid ideas in war, much less often the militaries. The first judge war action by the standards from peactime. the latter understand usually that peace standards do not work in war, and that war has its own needs and musts and dos as well as its own moral standards - which are not the standards of peacetime. Confuse these two, and you necessarily mess up.

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Who needs enemies if you have such "friends"
I guess there is some hate building up in the russian troops against incompetence and, and it is not directed at Ukraine.

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Ukrainian nightly missile attack successfully takes prey in Sevastopol, damaging a landing ship and a submarine.

https://en.defence-ua.com/news/ukrai...rine-7930.html

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Originally Posted by Skybird

Ukrainian nightly missile attack successfully takes prey in Sevastopol, damaging a landing ship and a submarine.

https://en.defence-ua.com/news/ukrai...rine-7930.html

Bingo!

[mapuc]

Putin show desperation

By meeting North Korean leader, shows that Putin are desperate.
He wants ammo and other war material from NK.
His factory can't follow the needs

No doubt he will get this

If NK will send troops-Doubtful.

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Originally Posted by mapuc

Putin show desperation

By meeting North Korean leader, shows that Putin are desperate.
He wants ammo and other war material from NK.
His factory can't follow the needs

No doubt he will get this

If NK will send troops-Doubtful.

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Russia does not only need the ammo also need the barrels (for this artillery) after so much time of fire ring it needs to be repaired/replaced also sign stocks are low or not in a good state this all comes on top of the jobs for the factories (Russian defense industry is in tatters mostly because of corruption, but sanctions help there also). North Korea has enough, a high number of these weapons we do not know the state of these stored weapons but can say Russia will have to pay an incredible high price for this. Do not think this will change anything for the war if you lose between 50–70% as being combat ineffective, with major deficiencies in capabilities this percentage Russia already reached adding a couple artillery will not help them certainly not with the state of training Russia lacks those people already were sent to the fronts and are KIA/MIA/WIA

Units in combat that sustain losses will slowly lose effectiveness. To some extent, casualties beyond 10% will probably require some internal reorganization too and beyond 25% the unit may reach a point where it lacks the ability to conduct offensive maneuver, however there are plenty of examples of units continuing to fight at 25% of nominal strength. As an example, the Australian 2/14th Battalion had 97 men defending their final position out of over 800 when it was relieved in front of Port Moresby. A lot depends on the level of training, combat experience and particularly the leadership within the individual units. Another factor will be what level of support and supply the unit has.

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