Wuhan virus 2020 - Page 542

AVGWarhawk · 08-18-21, 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Catfish

Texas Gov. Greg Abbott tests positive for COVID-19

"The governor spoke Monday night at a GOP event in Collin County, later tweeting photos of him addressing a maskless crowd. Less than three hours before his diagnosis was announced Tuesday afternoon, he tweeted pictures of a meeting with guitarist Jimmie Vaughan."

https://www.texastribune.org/2021/08...ositive-covid/

Good we know he's a governor, otherwise he would be in an asylum

The incubation time is not long enough for this event to be the cause of his infection. Never-the-less, large meetings without masks is not prudent.

AVGWarhawk · 08-18-21, 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Catfish

What about him infecting others when he went to this packed indoor fundraiser event, with all people there unmasked?

Definitely a cause for concern. Hopefully he was not sneezing and wiping his nose with his hands.

AVGWarhawk · 08-18-21, 09:10 AM

I read that Abott has been vaccinated.

mapuc · 08-18-21, 09:28 AM

Nothing but a thought based on our daily test that is being made.

The last few month the number of test has decreased a lot.
Reason to this is the number of vaccinated is growing.

Here's my thought
People who have been vaccinated do they think
"I do not need to test me I'm vaccinated"
Nevertheless a fully vaccinated can be infected and infect others even those who's been vaccinated.

I wonder therefore how many vaccinated is infected but doesn't know because they stopped taking test ?

Markus

Onkel Neal · 08-18-21, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Catfish

What about him infecting others when he went to this packed indoor fundraiser event, with all people there unmasked?

Exactly. I guess he assumes they have all been vaccinated. If they haven't then it's on them.

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"I test myself every day and today is the first day that I tested positive," Abbott said. "I also want you to know that I have received the COVID-19 vaccine and that may be one reason why I'm really not feeling any symptoms right now. I have no fever, no aches and pains, no other types of symptoms."

August · 08-18-21, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Catfish

What about him infecting others when he went to this packed indoor fundraiser event, with all people there unmasked?

What about him being already vaccinated against the coof and therefore following the CDC's guidelines of that moment?

Arlo · 08-18-21, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Onkel Neal

Exactly. I guess he assumes they have all been vaccinated. If they haven't then it's on them.

Ahhhh, Richards.

Skybird · 08-18-21, 10:06 AM

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41587-021-01037-9

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Our data provide clear evidence that the epithelial and immune cells of the upper airways (nose) of children are pre-activated and primed for virus sensing. This is likely a general feature of the children’s mucosal immune response, but of particular relevance for SARS-CoV-2. Very recently, scRNA-seq of fibroblasts infected with Chikungunya virus showed an extremely narrow window of opportunity for the cells to express IFNs before viral protein production shuts off the antiviral system22. This likely also explains the differences between SARS-CoV-2 and other respiratory viruses including respiratory syncytial virus, influenza A virus or SARS-CoV in terms of the induced host response. SARS-CoV-2 is characterized by extensive intracellular replication and a remarkable absence of IFN production and secretion. On the other hand, SARS-CoV-2 is highly sensitive to treatment with IFNs before or after infection, as shown in lung epithelial cells, even more so than SARS-CoV20,23. Primed virus sensing and a pre-activated innate immune response in children leads to efficient early production of IFNs in the infected airways, likely mediating substantial antiviral effects mirroring those observed in vitro in IFN-(pre)treated cells. Ultimately, this may lead to reduced virus replication and faster clearance in children. In fact, several studies already showed that children are much quicker in eliminating SARS-CoV-2 compared to adults, consistent with the concept that they shut down viral replication earlier24,25,26,27. For other respiratory viruses, such as respiratory syncytial virus and influenza A virus, that more efficiently induce an IFN response by themselves, a pre-activated innate immune response may be less relevant. The enhanced innate antiviral capacity in children together with the high IFN sensitivity of SARS-CoV-2 may explain why children are better able to control early-stage infection as compared to adults and therefore have a lower risk of developing severe COVID-19.

AVGWarhawk · 08-18-21, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Onkel Neal

Exactly. I guess he assumes they have all been vaccinated. If they haven't then it's on them.

The assumption can not be made any longer. The new variant is a new ballgame.

Arlo · 08-18-21, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

The assumption can not be made any longer. The new variant is a new ballgame.

Vaccination has actually proven to reduce the severity in 'the new ballgame.' I don't buy bad excuses.

AVGWarhawk · 08-18-21, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Arlo

Vaccination has actually proven to reduce the severity in 'the new ballgame.' I don't buy bad excuses.

They also have proven to not help and patient dies. I don't buy half of the story.

Arlo · 08-18-21, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

They also have proven to not help and patient dies. I don't buy half of the story.

[Sarcasm]Oh my G_d! You're right! When there's a small percentage that show no improvement ... or die,even ... then we should chuck modern medicine in the can![/Sarcasm]

You (and some others on the forum) don't seem to get how statistics actually work what with the 'I've got a 99% .... *cough* .... chance ... *cough* ... I'll take my chances ... *cough* .... somebody get me an ambulance! I don't care if it takes up a pediatric cancer kid's bed!'

Rockstar · 08-18-21, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Buddahaid

The smaller of my two hospitals is pretty much maxed out now. I wonder what's different....

Are they public or private hospitals? I read private hospitals were more likely to shut themselves off if the nearby hospital was public, suggesting they're avoiding accepting Medicaid and uninsured patients.

That and it’s summer more people out and about infecting each other cooties.

mapuc · 08-18-21, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Arlo

[Sarcasm]Oh my G_d! You're right! When there's a small percentage that show no improvement ... or die,even ... then we should chuck modern medicine in the can![/Sarcasm]

You (and some others on the forum) don't seem to get how statistics actually work what with the 'I've got a 99% .... *cough* .... chance ... *cough* ... I'll take my chances ... *cough* .... somebody get me an ambulance! I don't care if it takes up a pediatric cancer kid's bed!'

I still say people shall have the freedom to decide vaccine or no vaccine.
BUT they shall show responsibility towards others and
They shall not complain if they get infected.

Markus

Arlo · 08-18-21, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by mapuc

I still say people shall have the freedom to decide vaccine or no vaccine.
BUT they shall show responsibility towards others and
They shall not complain if they get infected.

Markus

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