Wuhan virus 2020

[Jeff-Groves]

Originally Posted by Arlo

If you're that scared of living there you'd be better off moving (it'd be less expensive, as well).

There is NOTHING that scares me!

I travel all over the Country for my line of work.
I HAVE probably been in every hell hole in every City in every State!
So you wonder why I go heavy?
I've had people robbed at gun point out side a job site.
I have had people KILLED near a job site!
I have had several robbery attempts made on me personally!
How's that compare to your everyday life?

Not one who knows how the real world works are you?
You think staying alive is a joke? I can tell you it is not a joke!
You read about people going nutz over masks and it's not your problem.
I face more in a day the most here will face in a year!
I have job sites that are like a damned prison camp to keep thieves out!
In after Sun rise out before Sun Set. Are you tough enough to do that?

So you go ahead and judge me from your arm chair.
I'm the real World Don't Screw With Me Guy doing what makes you wet your pants.
I'm one of the real Hero's that keep job site building housing going.

How many days in a week do you put your life on the line?
I'm also a Veteran of the 82nd AirBorne and volunteered to jump out of AirCraft!
What's your claim to fame?

[Arlo]

Originally Posted by Jeff-Groves

There is NOTHING that scares me!

I travel all over the Country for my line of work.
I HAVE probably been in every hell hole in every City in every State!
So you wonder why I go heavy?
I've had people robbed at gun point out side a job site.
I have had people KILLED near a job site!
I have had several robbery attempts made on me personally!
How's that compare to your everyday life?

Not one who knows how the real world works are you?
You think staying alive is a joke? I can tell you it is not a joke!
You read about people going nutz over masks and it's not your problem.
I face more in a day the most here will face in a year!
I have job sites that are like a damned prison camp to keep thieves out!
In after Sun rise out before Sun Set. Are you tough enough to do that?

So you go ahead and judge me from your arm chair.
I'm the real World Don't Screw With Me Guy doing what makes you wet your pants.
I'm one of the real Hero's that keep job site building housing going.

How many days in a week do you put your life on the line?
I'm also a Veteran of the 82nd AirBorne and volunteered to jump out of AirCraft!
What's your claim to fame?

Relax, honey. You look like you're afraid if you really feel like going around in G.I. Joe garb is what's keeping you alive. Yay for your Army Airborne experience. During my Navy experience we didn't jump out of perfectly good aircraft, but hey ... seems it coulda been fun. As far as fame is concerned, you don't seem any more famous than me.

P.S. Sounds like you need a new/better job. Take care, Joe.

(Not impressed or intimidated.) *ShruG*

[Rockstar]

Even Bret is beginning to wonder about why this obsession with vaccinations? Can you guess what happened next? Yep, YouTube banned them! First to go are the educated intellectual thinkers to be replaced with useful idiots who don’t ask questions.

[Buddahaid]

That is clearly wrong as this is not misinformation but discussion.

On another note, the only two people in my work group who have not been vaccinated are now at home with Covid. I expect they will be fine but it's still early.

[3catcircus]

Originally Posted by Buddahaid

That is clearly wrong as this is not misinformation but discussion.

On another note, the only two people in my work group who have not been vaccinated are now at home with Covid. I expect they will be fine but it's still early.

Assuming that they are otherwise healthy, they have a 99+% chance of being just fine.

It would be very interesting to see what their antibodies look like 6 months after recovery in comparison to someone who was vaccinated and didn't get covid, as well as vaccinated and did get covid. Some data has been gathered, but not enough to be fully definitive across the board.

[Skybird]

I raise my glass of chlorine bleach to toast this author in salute !


https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-58164833

[Skybird]

A study by one of the two biggest health insurrers in Germany, AOK, covered sox mionth from the early stage of the pandemci lastr year and covers 6 months. It shows that one third of those who had to be hospitalized, within 6 months after their release had to be hospitalized again due to late Covid consequences. The study concludes that an infeciton with Covid not only cna see delayed late serious problems, but also a "healed" case can be affected by long-lasting serious health degradations that return even after a temporary disappearing.

[Skybird]

• The mRNA vaccine from Pfizer and BioNTech may be less effective than Moderna’s against the delta variant of the coronavirus, according to two reports posted on medRxiv on Sunday ahead of peer review.
• People who received their second dose of the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine five or more months ago are more likely to test positive for Covid-19 than people who were fully vaccinated less than five months ago, new data suggest.

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/08/09/mode...with-time.html

[August]

Originally Posted by Arlo

During my Navy experience we didn't jump out of perfectly good aircraft,

Except there is no such thing as an aircraft with US Airforce or US Navy markings that could remotely be described as "perfectly good". It's something that every Paratrooper like Jeff or myself learns pretty quick and it's why door positions are so highly prized.

[Onkel Neal]

Originally Posted by Buddahaid

That is clearly wrong as this is not misinformation but discussion.

On another note, the only two people in my work group who have not been vaccinated are now at home with Covid. I expect they will be fine but it's still early.

Probably will be ok, but if they develop severe symptoms, it's on them.

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by mapuc

Maybe not but you can infect others who may die from it or get some longterm disease.


Markus

The vaccinated can infect others as well. This argument does not hold water. Never has.

[mapuc]

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

The vaccinated can infect others as well. This argument does not hold water. Never has.

I think that an unvaccinated has double the chance getting infected from another unvaccinated than a vaccinated get infected from an unvaccinated or a vaccinated

Markus

[Onkel Neal]

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

The vaccinated can infect others as well. This argument does not hold water. Never has.

Very true but getting infected without being vaccinated is far riskier than of they had taking precaution and gotten vaccinated.

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by mapuc

I think that an unvaccinated has double the chance getting infected from another unvaccinated than a vaccinated get infected from an unvaccinated or a vaccinated

Markus

Sir, the vaccine does not prevent infection. It fights the infection if one is to contract it, lower chance of getting symptoms, no need to go to hospital and or no symptoms at all. Think of Typhoid Mary. She was not affected by typhoid. Carried it all day infecting others. The vaccinated, carries the virus in their sinus all day but not affected by it. One sneeze and off to the races. The new variant is contract by the vaccinated and transmittable.

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by Onkel Neal

Very true but getting infected without being vaccinated is far riskier than of they had taking precaution and gotten vaccinated.

Bingo and FTW. As I stated a few posts back, the vaccine should have NEVER been sold as total immunity to the virus. The vaccine is to help in recovery if contracted. The virus still viable in the vaccinated nasal passages if it finds it's way there, but not making much of a issue for the vaccinated host.

One wonders if the vaccinated changed their behavior after getting the shot. Less social distance. Washed hands less.