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The General · 11-11-07, 05:42 AM

Absoloutely stunning work gentleman. Those black & white photos posted earlier by Chock really show what a beautifully designed boat the type VII was. Thanks.

Siara · 11-11-07, 06:53 AM

Thanks guys , comments like this make all the drilling and scraping worthwhile.

pythos · 11-11-07, 12:37 PM

When I read U-534 was going to be a museum, but they were going to cut the ship into sections, I was livid. I think this is one of the dummest ways of displaying any ship, car, or plane. I really dislike "nose" displays at museums that are becomming more and more common. This is where due to lack of space, the nose with the cockpit is cut off, the rest of the plane stored or scrapped, and the flight deck being made accesible. This was the original idea for the Enola gay, till much protesting was heard, and now the entire ship is on display...like it should be.

Cutting this one of a kind boat up I think is the stupidest thing they can do. They should have gotten the props crew from DAS BOOT to restore the thing inside and out, and left the thing intact.

This museum's move I think is a captitol crime.

Keyne · 11-11-07, 09:45 PM

You may have seen this already, but Japanese guy (I think) posted a video on Utube of him building a Revell Uboat model. IMO he shows some nice weathering techniques. Check the link below or just search on Uboat at utube. Good luck with your model.

Siara · 11-12-07, 02:32 PM

While im still sorting out the hull , id like to ask You Chock another question.
What are the 2 small outlets on the side of the ship?
In the Revell model the position of the thing is wrong /much to low , and to much forward /.

Do You have better picture of it please?

TBC...

Sabalo · 11-12-07, 03:46 PM

Hi Siara, I have been looking in all my books, and there is not explanation about those outlets. Maybe those are some kind of GHG (Gruppenhorchgerat) Group Listening Apparatus, or passive sound device.

I will continue my search

Regards

Sabalo

Savvy · 11-12-07, 03:52 PM

Siara,

I let Chock help you out with your Question above.

Just thought you might like to know that the POSTMAN

paid a visit today and dropped off the CMK kit

This really is of a very high standard

Anyhoo i've made a start on the 88 (A break was needed from the scraping!!) and will post pictures in my own thread later this week. All i need now are the deck's and i'll be cooking on gas for sure

Sav.

Chock · 11-12-07, 04:31 PM

Okay, from the pics I looked at, they appear to be raised bulges, almost like a back-to-front venturi fairing on an aircraft (see inset zoomed in view I have added to the pic). This is U-1060 prior to launching. You may be able to determine their purpose from the attached diagram which shows the location of the stuff inside the sub, my guess is something to do with water induction or compressed air on the forward trim tank, with possibly an outlet to the rear, maybe an intake for use during a torpedo launch to keep the boat in trim after losing the weight of the torpedo, as it is right above the torpedo compensating tanks. I included the back part of the drawing simply because you may find it useful.

Still looking for a better picture.

Chock

Siara · 11-13-07, 02:55 AM

Thanks Chock.
It looks like the shape of the "thingy" is good on the model , so just the position needs to be adjusted slightly.

jpkoral · 11-13-07, 09:30 AM

Just purchased the kit on EBay to go along with my 1-72 US Fleet Sub. Was checking on aftermarket parts...photoetched.....and doing general research before beginning. The Eduard parts look great. There are also photoetched parts at whiteensignmodels.com and some nice photos of a completed model at hsgalleries.com.

Savvy · 11-13-07, 10:45 AM

Nice one (again) on the photo Chock,

One thing i did notice in the photo and you have to look quite hard to spot it......
that anchor!!.......I think Revell got this part of the boat very wrong indeed, the one in my kit is tiny!!!:rotfl:

Sav.

Chock · 11-13-07, 11:13 AM

I doubt that's the intended anchor for the sub, it's probably one just for the launch. I looks a bit big for a sub.

Chock

Siara · 11-13-07, 12:26 PM

What a day!....first i nearly lost my job , and now on the return from work i find the parcel from the states. Did not have to check what it was - i knew it was box with my parts!
So now we off and running.
Presure hull by Yankee Modelworks , barells and peryscopes by Shatton Modelbau , figures by Warriors , and the most important of all etch set by White Ensign.

Pressure hull

Etch

Crew

Barrels

TBC...

Savvy · 11-13-07, 02:07 PM

First up, what do you do for a job?

Second, Why did you nearly lose it?

And Third, You lucky B^$£^&D look at all that stuff

Brilliant

Sav.

PS Still no POSTMAN

Siara · 11-14-07, 02:02 PM

Its a long story Savvy. Lets just say i had to deliver bail of hay to middle of Regents streat in London , and things did not go to plan much...

11-11-07, 05:42 AM	#61
The General The Old Man Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Mountain Ash, Wales, U.K. Posts: 1,548 Downloads: 179 Uploads: 3	Great work.. Absoloutely stunning work gentleman. Those black & white photos posted earlier by Chock really show what a beautifully designed boat the type VII was. Thanks. __________________ *THE GENERAL*

11-11-07, 06:53 AM	#62
Siara Grey Wolf Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mitcham/London Posts: 818 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Thanks guys , comments like this make all the drilling and scraping worthwhile. __________________ Master Models

11-12-07, 02:32 PM	#65
Siara Grey Wolf Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mitcham/London Posts: 818 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	While im still sorting out the hull , id like to ask You Chock another question. What are the 2 small outlets on the side of the ship? In the Revell model the position of the thing is wrong /much to low , and to much forward /. Do You have better picture of it please? TBC... __________________ Master Models

11-12-07, 04:31 PM	#68
Chock Sea Lord Join Date: May 2005 Location: Under a thermal layer in chilly Olde England Posts: 1,842 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Okay, from the pics I looked at, they appear to be raised bulges, almost like a back-to-front venturi fairing on an aircraft (see inset zoomed in view I have added to the pic). This is U-1060 prior to launching. You may be able to determine their purpose from the attached diagram which shows the location of the stuff inside the sub, my guess is something to do with water induction or compressed air on the forward trim tank, with possibly an outlet to the rear, maybe an intake for use during a torpedo launch to keep the boat in trim after losing the weight of the torpedo, as it is right above the torpedo compensating tanks. I included the back part of the drawing simply because you may find it useful. Still looking for a better picture. Chock __________________

11-13-07, 02:55 AM	#69
Siara Grey Wolf Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mitcham/London Posts: 818 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Thanks Chock. It looks like the shape of the "thingy" is good on the model , so just the position needs to be adjusted slightly. __________________ Master Models

11-11-07, 12:37 PM	#63
pythos Grey Wolf Join Date: May 2005 Location: Somewhere over there Posts: 834 Downloads: 46 Uploads: 0	When I read U-534 was going to be a museum, but they were going to cut the ship into sections, I was livid. I think this is one of the dummest ways of displaying any ship, car, or plane. I really dislike "nose" displays at museums that are becomming more and more common. This is where due to lack of space, the nose with the cockpit is cut off, the rest of the plane stored or scrapped, and the flight deck being made accesible. This was the original idea for the Enola gay, till much protesting was heard, and now the entire ship is on display...like it should be. Cutting this one of a kind boat up I think is the stupidest thing they can do. They should have gotten the props crew from DAS BOOT to restore the thing inside and out, and left the thing intact. This museum's move I think is a captitol crime.

11-11-07, 09:45 PM	#64
Keyne Nub Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 4 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	You may have seen this already, but Japanese guy (I think) posted a video on Utube of him building a Revell Uboat model. IMO he shows some nice weathering techniques. Check the link below or just search on Uboat at utube. Good luck with your model.

11-12-07, 03:46 PM	#66
Sabalo Mate Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: London Posts: 58 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Hi Siara, I have been looking in all my books, and there is not explanation about those outlets. Maybe those are some kind of GHG (Gruppenhorchgerat) Group Listening Apparatus, or passive sound device. I will continue my search Regards Sabalo

11-12-07, 03:52 PM	#67
Savvy Loader Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Somerset, UK Posts: 89 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Siara, I let Chock help you out with your Question above. Just thought you might like to know that the POSTMAN paid a visit today and dropped off the CMK kit This really is of a very high standard Anyhoo i've made a start on the 88 (A break was needed from the scraping!!) and will post pictures in my own thread later this week. All i need now are the deck's and i'll be cooking on gas for sure Sav.

11-13-07, 09:30 AM	#70
jpkoral Nub Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 3 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Revell VIIC Just purchased the kit on EBay to go along with my 1-72 US Fleet Sub. Was checking on aftermarket parts...photoetched.....and doing general research before beginning. The Eduard parts look great. There are also photoetched parts at whiteensignmodels.com and some nice photos of a completed model at hsgalleries.com.

11-13-07, 10:45 AM	#71
Savvy Loader Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Somerset, UK Posts: 89 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Nice one (again) on the photo Chock, One thing i did notice in the photo and you have to look quite hard to spot it...... that anchor!!.......I think Revell got this part of the boat very wrong indeed, the one in my kit is tiny!!!:rotfl: Sav.

11-13-07, 11:13 AM	#72
Chock Sea Lord Join Date: May 2005 Location: Under a thermal layer in chilly Olde England Posts: 1,842 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I doubt that's the intended anchor for the sub, it's probably one just for the launch. I looks a bit big for a sub. Chock __________________

11-13-07, 12:26 PM	#73
Siara Grey Wolf Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mitcham/London Posts: 818 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	What a day!....first i nearly lost my job , and now on the return from work i find the parcel from the states. Did not have to check what it was - i knew it was box with my parts! So now we off and running. Presure hull by Yankee Modelworks , barells and peryscopes by Shatton Modelbau , figures by Warriors , and the most important of all etch set by White Ensign. Pressure hull Etch Crew Barrels TBC... __________________ Master Models Last edited by Siara; 11-13-07 at 01:30 PM.

11-13-07, 02:07 PM	#74
Savvy Loader Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Somerset, UK Posts: 89 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	First up, what do you do for a job? Second, Why did you nearly lose it? And Third, You lucky B^$£^&D look at all that stuff Brilliant Sav. PS Still no POSTMAN

11-14-07, 02:02 PM	#75
Siara Grey Wolf Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mitcham/London Posts: 818 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Its a long story Savvy. Lets just say i had to deliver bail of hay to middle of Regents streat in London , and things did not go to plan much... __________________ Master Models