US Politics Thread 2021-24

[Jimbuna]

Donald Trump has made the bizarre and baseless claim that wind turbines are driving whales "crazy" and causing them to die.

[Jeff-Groves]

Wind Turbines cause people around here to go crazy!
Unfortunatly? They don't die.

[Jimbuna]

Best fact check that with Trump first

[August]

Originally Posted by Jimbuna

Donald Trump has made the bizarre and baseless claim that wind turbines are driving whales "crazy" and causing them to die.

How do you explain the increase in strandings and deaths around offshore wind turbine farms then? Coincidence? The Russians?

[Jeff-Groves]

Don't need to do that.
People around here vote to keep Wind Farms away because of BS like that.
The mention of a Wind Farm Drives them crazy!
But they don't die!

[Jeff-Groves]

Originally Posted by August

How do you explain the increase in strandings and deaths around offshore wind turbine farms then? Coincidence? The Russians?

Global Warming.
Are you not paying attention?

[Rockstar]

Originally Posted by Jimbuna

Donald Trump has made the bizarre and baseless claim that wind turbines are driving whales "crazy" and causing them to die.

Interesting, what makes it so baseless and bizarre? Oh ya, the Trump said it and out come the fact checkers again.

https://archive.ph/d6JD2

… New Jersey is the leader in offshore wind energy, but the state is also finding itself a leader in whale deaths. At least nine dead humpback whales have washed ashore on the New Jersey coast — the largest number of any state — since the start of the year. Other whale species and dead dolphins have also washed up.

Many are calling for a moratorium on offshore wind due to the fact that there has been an unprecedented number of whale deaths, dolphin deaths, and porpoise deaths along the East Coast,” Mr. Testa says. “Even proponents of offshore wind will acknowledge that this amount of marine life death constitutes an extreme anomaly.”

Sure to the layman 2 plus 2 equals 4. But when a billion dollar business and billions in subsidies are involved 2 plus 2 equals whatever they want it to be.

[Buddahaid]

Originally Posted by Rockstar

Interesting, what makes it so baseless and bizarre? Oh ya, the Trump said it and out come the fact checkers again.

https://archive.ph/d6JD2



Sure to the layman 2 plus 2 equals 4. But when a billion dollar business and billions in subsidies are involved 2 plus 2 equals whatever they want it to be.

And what do the biologists cite as the cause of death? Whales have been beaching for no apparent reason for a long time and before there were wind farms.

[Rockstar]

Originally Posted by Buddahaid

And what do the biologists cite as the cause of death? Whales have been beaching for no apparent reason for a long time and before there were wind farms.

At the moment I don’t believe anyone is certain why there’s an increase in marine mammal stranding in that area. There does appear to be a correlation between the strandings and the wind farms, but correlation doesn’t always mean causation. However to rule it out or laugh it off as baseless and bizarre is just plain ignorant.

Billions of dollars are involved here we may never get a straight answer. They’re just dumb whales anyway.

[Skybird]

[Buddahaid]

Well, the impeachment hearings, getting off to a great start. The star witnesses testify they have no evidence.
https://cdn.jwplayer.com/previews/uHD3YLuN

[Rockstar]

Fixed.

Originally Posted by Buddahaid

Well, the impeachment hearings, getting off to a great start. The star witnesses testify they have no evidence first hand witness accounts
https://cdn.jwplayer.com/previews/uHD3YLuN

[Buddahaid]

In other words they have hearsay and rainbows and unicorns.

[Rockstar]

Originally Posted by Buddahaid

In other words they have hearsay and rainbows and unicorns.

Maybe, but remember the words of Democrat Rep. Maxine Waters: “Impeachment is about whatever the Congress says it is. There is no law that dictates impeachment. What the Constitution says is ‘high crimes and misdemeanors,’ and we define that.”.

So, what’s good for the goose is good for the gander, right?. Such is the divisive state of American politics I guess, sad but true. Then again maybe Biden really did break the law. I mean there is Biden on YouTube shooting him self in the foot by boosting how he used tax payer money as leverage to have that Ukrainian investigating Burisma fired. Might be some bank incriminating statements and phone records too. Ya never know.

[Rockstar]

The Threat of an American Debt Crisis

The mini-documentary America’s Looming Debt Spiral shows how the path back to fiscal prudence is getting harder—and that time may be running out.

By Scarlet Fu
September 28, 2023 at 9:02 PM UTC

https://archive.ph/D38Tm

The cost of servicing US debt has surged in recent years. The perpetual threat of a government shutdown or even default comes thanks to political dysfunction that’s seemingly put solutions out of reach. At some point, the failure to tackle America’s large and growing budget deficit is going to hit the wallets of ordinary Americans. And hard.

In the Bloomberg Originals mini-documentary America’s Looming Debt Spiral, we spell out the potentially dire consequences that may flow from the continued inability of the world’s largest economy to manage its finances.


Bloomberg Originals: America’s Looming Debt Spiral

The US government is currently spending more to pay interest on its $33 trillion national debt than it does on national defense, according to the US Treasury’s monthly statement. In the current fiscal year through August, the Treasury has spent $807.84 billion in interest on its debt securities. The Department of Defense’s outlay for military programs totaled $695.44 billion in the same period.
Of course, this is far from a new problem for Washington—it’s long spent more than it takes in, given the political perils of tax hikes or spending cuts to social safety nets that a wide swath of Americans depend on. It was a decade ago in the slow-growth aftermath of the financial crisis that the US gross federal debt surpassed gross domestic product. The debt-to GDP ratio stayed relatively stable until 2020, when the coronavirus swept across the planet, killing millions and cratering economies.

In the US, emergency pandemic aid and subsequent spending on infrastructure added to the financial burden of earlier tax cuts for the wealthy and corporations, sending the national debt spiking upwards. As recently as April, the debt was the equivalent of 120% of GDP.

While the outlook may seem grim, the past shows the US budget can be balanced—like the Clinton administration did in the late 1990s. But as America’s Looming Debt Spiral shows, the path back to fiscal prudence is getting longer, the consequences of doing nothing are becoming worse—and time is running out.