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Old 09-13-22, 06:48 AM   #6271
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Peskov assures that Russians support Putin: Edge in critical positions is "very shaky"

Despite the critical statements of Russians on social networks about the Russian Federation’s war in Ukraine, the Kremlin assures that citizens allegedly support Vladimir Putin and his actions.

This was stated by the press secretary of the President of Russia Dmytro Peskov, Censor.NET informs with reference to the Russian "Interfax".

"Public opinion is so sensitive to what is happening within the framework of a special military operation (this is what Russia calls the war in Ukraine. - Ed.), it is clear that public opinion reacts very, very emotionally," he noted.

When asked by journalists to comment on critical posts in Telegram channels, Peskov said that critical statements about the retreat of the Russians "in the light of recent events are permissible within the framework of current legislation, but the line in this matter is very shaky."

At the same time, Peskov claims that "Russians support the president, this is confirmed by the mood of the people, their actions, participation in the elections and the choice made by those who used their vote." Source: https://censor.net/en/n3366812
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Old 09-13-22, 06:48 AM   #6272
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^ considering the fact that Russian troops themselves are running away from the continued fight, I would be surprised if anyone besides North Korea would be interested in fighting for the Russian Federation.
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Old 09-13-22, 06:55 AM   #6273
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I'm beginning to think Rasputins only option would be to announce 'full mobilization' but that brings everything out into the open for the Russian population and the withy it the gamble as to whether the majority will support him or not.
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I'm beginning to think Rasputins only option would be to announce 'full mobilization' but that brings everything out into the open for the Russian population and the withy it the gamble as to whether the majority will support him or not.
He has some options:
1. General mobilisation
2. Convince Belarus to attack Ukraine and thereby open a second front
3. Decrease the goal he has for Ukraine.
4. Use of Nukes.
5. Withdraw fully from Ukraine

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You forgot the chemical weapons option and full withdrawal as well.
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Old 09-13-22, 07:40 AM   #6277
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You forgot the chemical weapons option and full withdrawal as well.

^ I had forgotten about the chemical and biological weapons Putin probably has. I think the U.S and probably other countries would consider their use to be weapons of mass destruction and perhaps respond with weapons of their own weapons of the same magnitude including nuclear weapons.
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You forgot the chemical weapons option and full withdrawal as well.
I had full withdrawal as number 5.

I forgot Chemical and Biological

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^ I had forgotten about the chemical and biological weapons Putin probably has. I think the U.S and probably other countries would consider their use to be weapons of mass destruction and perhaps respond with weapons of their own weapons of the same magnitude including nuclear weapons.
That would be the ultimate gamble on both sides and one I hope never comes about in reality.

I occasionally come across articles which say "Russian army is nothing like as effective as we have believed in the past so do their nukes actually work"?

My response is usually "Are you prepared for the consequences if you are wrong"?
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That would be the ultimate gamble on both sides and one I hope never comes about in reality.

I occasionally come across articles which say "Russian army is nothing like as effective as we have believed in the past so do their nukes actually work"?

My response is usually "Are you prepared for the consequences if you are wrong"?



You are exactly right. I hope it never comes to that. A rational person wouldn't even consider the use of Nuclear weapons. The question is and remains, how rational is Putin ?
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You are exactly right. I hope it never comes to that. A rational person wouldn't even consider the use of Nuclear weapons. The question is and remains, how rational is Putin ?
And that my friend is the billion dollar question
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I occasionally come across articles which say "Russian army is nothing like as effective as we have believed in the past so do their nukes actually work"?

My response is usually "Are you prepared for the consequences if you are wrong"?
This reminds me what I said to some friends.

The UA defence toke down 9 out of 11 missiles who had been fired from bomberplane and warship.
This tells me that this air defence system isn't perfect.

Imagine Putin goes berserk and order a nuke strike on Ukraine-He fire 20 missiles and 17 of them are shot down. One could hope that the rest has a malfunction.

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In what I think is related news Azerbaijan forces are attacking Russia’s close ally Armenia.
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