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Old 07-12-22, 03:25 PM   #5026
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Someone said that Lukashenko is Putins little puppy which do anything Putin says he shall do.

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He is, but he needs the army and Secret Service to stay in power so problem in case of a refusal by the Secret Service, police or military, to keep order and defend his regime.
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A front in the North distracts Ukrainian forces from the South and East.

Also, war of attrition: the Kyiv region is I think home to a big share of Ukrainian economy not formed by heavy industry.
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On the Kherson front panic setting in Russians try to move more forces to that area, but Russians have logistical problems there certainly after Ukraine has destroyed Russian biggest munition depots. Do not think there will be a new campaign from Belarus Russians are not certain Belarus army will fight in Ukraine military staff is not willing that is why the purge by Lukashenko. Think a front in the north will have the same problems as before.
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Do you see any chances that the Kerch bridge can be destroyed?
I would not risk bombers and drones do not carry enough explosives, but it is almost in reach for ukrainian neptune missiles.
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A front in the North distracts Ukrainian forces from the South and East.

Also, war of attrition: the Kyiv region is I think home to a big share of Ukrainian economy not formed by heavy industry.
A northern invasion would be seen by US satellites not heard anything in that direction Russia can not build up that kinda army in the north without cannibalize it's southern front.
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Do you see any chances that the Kerch bridge can be destroyed?
I would not risk bombers and drones do not carry enough explosives, but it is almost in reach for ukrainian neptune missiles.
Think it is better to destroy the supply lines and depots behind enemy lines is more effective.
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A northern invasion would be seen by US satellites not heard anything in that direction Russia can not build up that kinda army in the north without cannibalize it's southern front.
Couldn't Putin change it from special operation to War and thereby mobilize troops to Belarus from all over Russia ?

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Couldn't Putin change it from special operation to War and thereby get a lot more troops to Belarus from all over Russia ?

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Putin problem is that Russians do not want a war they happy with an operation so their sons and husbands do not have to die most people fighting now are from the former Soviet Union southern republics the poorest and criminals with fighting experience.
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Putin problem is that Russians do not want a war they happy with an operation so their sons and husbands do not have to die most people fighting now are from the former Soviet Union southern republics the poorest and criminals with fighting experience.
In a meeting some weeks ago, where Putin said to the people who was there, that he hadn't begun yet in Ukraine-He used the word War together with Ukraine for the first time-This according to an article in a Danish newspaper

Maybe he knows that he has to mobilize his reserves to get more troops to Ukraine and Belarus.

The Russian do not want a war they happy with an operation

It has been said by some of you on many occasions
- No one dare to speak up against Putin not even fight him.

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In a meeting some weeks ago, where Putin said to the people who was there, that he hadn't begun yet in Ukraine-He used the word War together with Ukraine for the first time-This according to an article in a Danish newspaper

Maybe he knows that he has to mobilize his reserves to get more troops to Ukraine and Belarus.

The Russian do not want a war they happy with an operation

It has been said by some of you on many occasions
- No one dare to speak up against Putin not even fight him.

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Russians has already problems to get personnel with good pay now do not think a mobilization will be successful and does not mean they ready for the fight that takes weeks/months training and getting material ready. At some point, fear of Putin and his henchmen will disappear, but that is more hope than written in stone.
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Does this make any difference ?

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A pro-Kremlin party is calling for Vladimir Putin to be referred to as Russia's "ruler" rather than as the Russian "president," in order to move away from a job description derived from a foreign language
https://www.newsweek.com/vladimir-pu...remlin-1723295

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If Russia wants to take Kyiv, it cannot evade massing troops in the Norht of the city, US stallites may see it, or not - they must am,ass tropps for such an attack.

In WW2, the first German attack on Kyiv also was repelled. After some time went by, the Wehrmacht nevertheless attacked it a second time, and this time successfully. The Sovjet Union needed two years to take the city back.

There were reports in recent days that Ukrainian troops hastily lay mines in Kyiv's North and along the border.
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https://www.newsweek.com/vladimir-pu...remlin-1723295

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Don't know why he is going with half measures. You know that Putin really wants to be called "Czar".
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A clip of an explosion in Kramatorsk

Look at Cam 6 the explosion occur around 20 second into the clip.



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Weird that the sound was first!!
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Negotiations to unblock grain ports begin in Istanbul

The quadrilateral talks on the export of Ukrainian grain with the participation of delegations of Ukraine, Turkey, the UN and Russia began in Istanbul.

These are the first talks Ukraine and Russia have had with U.N. and Turkish officials to break the months-long deadlock over Ukrainian grain exports blocked by Russia.

Because Ukraine is a vital exporter of wheat and grain, Russia's invasion of the country has caused food prices to spike and millions of people face starvation worldwide.

Foreign Minister Dmytro Kuleba said earlier that "we are two steps away from an agreement with Russia. The Minister added that he sees only one potential reason why Russia might change its position on the grain blockade.

The Foreign Ministry stressed that the country advocates that the issue of unblocking the Ukrainian grain be resolved under the aegis of the UN.

On the eve of the meeting in Istanbul, Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan had telephone conversations with Vladimir Putin and Vladimir Zelensky, in which they discussed the problems of grain exports from Ukraine and the need to create corridors in the Black Sea.
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