Here we go again-Ukraine once again

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Dutch House of Representatives calls on the Cabinet to further increase arms deliveries and other forms of military support to Ukraine "where possible in the very short term." The Chamber also wants the Cabinet to urge allies to urgently deliver more weapons and carry out already promised deliveries.

"There should be no taboo on which weapons or weapon systems the Netherlands supplies, on buying weapons from third parties or supplying weapons through other allies," states the adopted motion by D66. Immediate cause is President Zelensky's call for more weapons.

[Jimbuna]

^ Already covered in detail See #4597

[Jimbuna]

Just in one minute ago....someone is obviously doing Vlad the Impalers bidding and living in a parallel universe at the same time.

Since the Russian army attacked Ukraine nearly four months ago, thousands of civilians have been killed and whole towns reduced to rubble, while millions of Ukrainians have fled their homes.

But on Thursday, Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov looked me in the eye and told me things were not as they seemed.

"We didn't invade Ukraine," he claimed.

"We declared a special military operation because we had absolutely no other way of explaining to the West that dragging Ukraine into Nato was a criminal act."

Since Russia invaded Ukraine on 24 February, Mr Lavrov has given only a few interviews to Western media.

He repeated the official Kremlin line that there were Nazis in Ukraine. Russian officials often claim that their military is "de-Nazifying" the country. Mr Lavrov caused uproar recently when he tried to justify the Nazi slur regarding Ukraine's president, who is Jewish, by making the ridiculous claim that Adolf Hitler had "Jewish blood".

I quoted to him an official United Nations report about the Ukrainian village of Yahidne, in Chernihiv region, which states that "360 residents, including 74 children and five persons with disabilities, were forced by Russian armed forces to stay for 28 days in the basement of a school… There were no toilet facilities, water…10 older people died".

Read the full article from the link below.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-61825525

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Originally Posted by Jimbuna

The fire started on the night of June 15 at the Gazprom Dobycha Urengoy site between gas fields 7-8 due to “a rupture of a pipe with a diameter of 1.4 meters”. The fire has now been extinguished with no casualties reported.

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Originally Posted by Jimbuna

Significant losses of Russian occupation troops ruin the military leadership’s plans to advance rapidly into Ukraine. Cases of large numbers of personnel being fired for refusing to take part in hostilities on the territory of Ukraine have become more frequent. This does not allow to strengthen and replace Russian units that have lost their combat capability in a short time.

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Dutch intel said it stopped a Russian spy posing as an intern from accessing the International Criminal Court, investigating war crimes in Ukraine. The man used a Brazilian cover identity, but was unmasked as a GRU agent... https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2022/...ing-icc-a78026

[Skybird]

Bubble-Olaf said he would not go to Kyiv just for a photo shooting, but only when there is somethign substantial on the table. But when you look close at it, thats what happened: a photo shootiong, and nothing new and substantial on the table from the Germans. The Ukraine may win the status of a EU candidate, but that is of no relevance for the runnign war, and does nothing to help it. It also impresses not the Russians. More likely motivates them even further. The candiadacy is a proc ess that will take years - and whewther the ukraine will even still exist in a few years, is not a given.

Seen this way, Scholz once again pulled the Teflon stunt. He deflects criticism of his deciisons and policy, while risking nothing and not giving anything additional. Just before the visit he has reduced the number of HIMARS from 4 to 3. No decision in the Marders that are ready to be delivered immedoiately now. Once again he mentions the IRIS-T air defence systemn. That that system will not be sent before Decembre (last news update), he did not say.

A photo shooting, and nothign more. Exactly what Scholz said he would not travel for to Kyiv.

In Ukraine, they have a created a new word from the German, I see on TV : "scholzen, herumscholzen". It means endless slurring and making a lot of words without following up with deeds. We had also introduced such a word in Germany before: "Merkeln, Herummerkeln," which, in reference to Merkel, means a bumbling opportunistic doctoring around of symptoms without treating the causes and deeper reasons. Bungle, in other words.


Macronman was a little surprise, if he mean serious what he said. The french have hcnaged their rhetoric, and now openly speak of a victory for Ukraine, the Germans ironly still avoid to take that term into their mouth. The French alos said they will send 5 more of their truck mounted 155mm howitzer (of which they already sent 10).


The Germans came and left without offering anything concrete. They did not disappoint me.

[mapuc]

Will we be sitting with our hands on our knees if this happens ?

Alyaksandr Lukashenka said on June 10 that Belarus may be forced to enter the war to fight for the west of Ukraine so that it is “not chopped off” by NATO. The Belarusian dictator’s remarks came as Minsk was reinforcing its electronic warfare capabilities along the Ukrainian border, according to a Facebook post by the Ukrainian General Staff.

https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blog...s-desperation/

Markus

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Originally Posted by mapuc

Will we be sitting with our hands on our knees if this happens ?



https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blog...s-desperation/

Markus

Belarus are worse at war than Russia, I do not worry

[August]

Originally Posted by Dargo

Belarus are worse at war than Russia, I do not worry

Weren't they part of the initial invasion and had to bow out because their troops weren't having any part of it?

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Originally Posted by August

Weren't they part of the initial invasion and had to bow out because their troops weren't having any part of it?

It was more his military refused to fight against Ukraine, and it has a great militant resistance in Belarus Lukashenko did not go ahead with an invasion of Ukraine. There was talk they were fighting in Ukraine, but never saw any proof of it, a lot of Belarus people fled to Ukraine and joined their army to fight Lukashenko.

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by mapuc

Will we be sitting with our hands on our knees if this happens ?

Yes we will.

However, the mere massing of troops at the border binds Ukrainian troops in that region. Troops the Ukraine would need elsewhere.

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Dargo

Belarus are worse at war than Russia, I do not worry

Not to mention how ukraine will suck at war if running out of ammo. And the Sovjet-made part of their equipment IS running out of ammo for sure. The Western weapons must come in at a quanity so that they can replace these empty Sowjet weapon platforms, namely artillery pieces. Ther eis only one factory in the West left that can produce sovjet era artillery ammunitions. And they are hopelessly overloaded in demand. Ukraine'S own military productions has been destroyed by now practically completely by the Russians. Thats confirmed both by the Ukrainians, and Western observers.



I assume the Russians "abuse" the T-62 as mobile artillery for short range, too. The Ukrainian chief of staff said the Russians have a 10:1 advantage in artillery pieces. Other speakers of the government mentioned even higher ratios against the Ukraine, up to 15:1.

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Russian Rosgvardia’s elite 604th Special Purpose Center’s Vityaz unit is now offering three-month contracts to fight in Ukraine, with just three weeks of basic training before deployment to the front. This underlines the scale of the manpower crisis Putin is facing as his invasion force continues to suffer heavy losses

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By proclaiming their support for Ukraine and Moldova becoming official candidates for EU membership, the leaders of France, Germany and Italy on Thursday sent an unequivocal message to Vladimir Putin: the Soviet sphere of influence is dead — and it will not be resurrected by force... https://www.politico.eu/article/rhet...raines-eu-bid/