VIIc engine-room - Page 29

Katuna · 04-06-19, 04:34 PM

I second the motion of reviving the lost images. I have been scrounging everywhere for underdeck images of the engine room of a Type VII for my U-371 model. I found a couple scratchy pics from this thread but that's about it. Any chance of getting some of the images back?

NZsnowman · 04-07-19, 03:31 AM

I can re-post the updated images this week if I get time, however remember this drawing is for the Type VIIC/41 and not for the Type VIIB or VIIC. Also I was able to check the layout with U-995 a few weeks back and my drawings are not 100% correct.

Aktungbby · 04-07-19, 11:04 AM

Katuna!

Katuna · 04-09-19, 09:35 AM

I would really appreciate that! I know your drawings are of the /41 but given the scale I'm working in I'm sure I can be forgiven by all but the most obnoxious of rivet counters. The Trumpeter model begs for more detail, especially under the engines. Obviously in 1/48 scale there's only so much I can replicate anyway. Anything is an improvement over an empty hull.

Speaking of which (and if I'm getting too off topic for this forum, please let me know), I can't for the life of me figure out the layout of the oil tanks under the engines. From the 3D renderings I've seen, it appears the tanks go from the bilge up to just below the V'd portion of the frame rib. Do the ribs go through the tank? Is the tank in segments between the ribs? I just can't seem to see it. It's been driving me nuts and it's a detail that is front and center on the cutaway of the model.

Snowman, I've been scrounging your images anywhere I can. They have been most helpful in my planning of my project. Thank you to you and all the others on the Subsim site. I know it's not a modelling site but it's been a wealth of info (gushing, gratuitous, self benefitting praise over).

Katuna · 04-09-19, 09:37 AM

Aktungbby-Thanks but I have tons of photos of the engine room, especially of U-995. I've been looking for 3D renders like Snowmans for under the deck plates. I know the basic components but not the layout and piping. Thanks for the pics though!

Katuna · 05-26-19, 11:09 PM

What is the story on these 2 green supports on either end of the waste oil tanks? Why are they green and why the electrical shock warning?

NZsnowman · 05-27-19, 03:57 AM

Look like I forgot to post the link to the pictures. I tried posting the pictures last month but it did not work.

If they do not work, let me know.

Full engine room
https://www.flickr.com/photos/155197...6/46915617944/

Flooring
https://www.flickr.com/photos/155197...6/47639753601/

Piping
https://www.flickr.com/photos/155197...posted-public/

Katuna · 05-30-19, 03:43 PM

Simon - Thanks for posting those. I have most of those that I've managed to scrounge up here and there but there are a couple I didn't have. I also came across some Elevation views of the Engine Room that look as if they are also yours. Unfortunately they are in bits and pieces. Did you make any full views from either the Elevation or Cross Section views? Sorry to come to you with my hand out but your drawings have been so helpful in deciphering the plumbing under the deck plates. Tomi's have been most helpful too.

Oh, one other request, do you have a Legend for the colored piping labels?

Thanks again for your help.

Mysh · 08-09-23, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by NZsnowman

Look like I forgot to post the link to the pictures. I tried posting the pictures last month but it did not work.

Hey Snowman, I'm trying to contact you via various platforms. Tried via PN here, but I guess I'm not allowed to send you one. I'm searching for a Type VIIC engine 3D model. Maybe you read this message here. Please contact me if you do so!

Aktungbby · 08-09-23, 11:33 AM

Nysh!

be advised: one comtacts via PM...not PN!? It does appear that MZsnownam hasm't been active im four years...&, as his posted occupatiom is: "Smow and Avalamch Researcher", I'n gettimg a little worried nyself?!!

Mysh · 08-09-23, 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aktungbby

[COLOR="Lime"]Nysh!

Smowman is kimda hard to track dowm it seens - I saw he has mot beem postimg for years. But that's ny last resort. I desperately search for a fromtal view of the Type VII's diesel emgines because I wamt to do sone artwork based on it. A 90 degree view fron each side would also be mice.

Naybe soneome else here cam help? Naybe you? Would be highly appreciated.

PS: Is the "Gefallen Engel" missing the "er" on purpose?

Jeff-Groves · 08-09-23, 02:07 PM

PM Me. I can provide the 3D models.

Mysh · 08-09-23, 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff-Groves

PM Me.

Thank you so much!

Just sent you a message but it doesn't appear in the "sent" folder. Did you get anything?

Jeff-Groves · 08-09-23, 02:35 PM

I got it and replied.

04-07-19, 11:04 AM	#423
Aktungbby Gefallen Engel U-666 Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: On a tilted, overheated, overpopulated spinning mudball on Collision course with Andromeda Galaxy Posts: 28,786 Downloads: 24 Uploads: 0	welcome aboard! Katuna! __________________ "Only two things are infinite; The Universe and human squirrelyness; and I'm not too sure about the Universe" Last edited by Aktungbby; 04-07-19 at 11:20 AM.

08-09-23, 11:33 AM	#430
Aktungbby Gefallen Engel U-666 Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: On a tilted, overheated, overpopulated spinning mudball on Collision course with Andromeda Galaxy Posts: 28,786 Downloads: 24 Uploads: 0	Nysh! be advised: one comtacts via PM...not PN!? It does appear that MZsnownam hasm't been active im four years...&, as his posted occupatiom is: "Smow and Avalamch Researcher", I'n gettimg a little worried nyself?!! __________________ "Only two things are infinite; The Universe and human squirrelyness; and I'm not too sure about the Universe"

04-06-19, 04:34 PM	#421
Katuna Swabbie Join Date: Apr 2018 Posts: 5 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I second the motion of reviving the lost images. I have been scrounging everywhere for underdeck images of the engine room of a Type VII for my U-371 model. I found a couple scratchy pics from this thread but that's about it. Any chance of getting some of the images back?

04-07-19, 03:31 AM	#422
NZsnowman Machinist's Mate Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: New Zealand Posts: 127 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	I can re-post the updated images this week if I get time, however remember this drawing is for the Type VIIC/41 and not for the Type VIIB or VIIC. Also I was able to check the layout with U-995 a few weeks back and my drawings are not 100% correct.

04-09-19, 09:35 AM	#424
Katuna Swabbie Join Date: Apr 2018 Posts: 5 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I would really appreciate that! I know your drawings are of the /41 but given the scale I'm working in I'm sure I can be forgiven by all but the most obnoxious of rivet counters. The Trumpeter model begs for more detail, especially under the engines. Obviously in 1/48 scale there's only so much I can replicate anyway. Anything is an improvement over an empty hull. Speaking of which (and if I'm getting too off topic for this forum, please let me know), I can't for the life of me figure out the layout of the oil tanks under the engines. From the 3D renderings I've seen, it appears the tanks go from the bilge up to just below the V'd portion of the frame rib. Do the ribs go through the tank? Is the tank in segments between the ribs? I just can't seem to see it. It's been driving me nuts and it's a detail that is front and center on the cutaway of the model. Snowman, I've been scrounging your images anywhere I can. They have been most helpful in my planning of my project. Thank you to you and all the others on the Subsim site. I know it's not a modelling site but it's been a wealth of info (gushing, gratuitous, self benefitting praise over).

04-09-19, 09:37 AM	#425
Katuna Swabbie Join Date: Apr 2018 Posts: 5 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Aktungbby-Thanks but I have tons of photos of the engine room, especially of U-995. I've been looking for 3D renders like Snowmans for under the deck plates. I know the basic components but not the layout and piping. Thanks for the pics though!

05-26-19, 11:09 PM	#426
Katuna Swabbie Join Date: Apr 2018 Posts: 5 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	What is the story on these 2 green supports on either end of the waste oil tanks? Why are they green and why the electrical shock warning?

05-27-19, 03:57 AM	#427
NZsnowman Machinist's Mate Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: New Zealand Posts: 127 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	Look like I forgot to post the link to the pictures. I tried posting the pictures last month but it did not work. If they do not work, let me know. Full engine room https://www.flickr.com/photos/155197...6/46915617944/ Flooring https://www.flickr.com/photos/155197...6/47639753601/ Piping https://www.flickr.com/photos/155197...posted-public/

05-30-19, 03:43 PM	#428
Katuna Swabbie Join Date: Apr 2018 Posts: 5 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Simon - Thanks for posting those. I have most of those that I've managed to scrounge up here and there but there are a couple I didn't have. I also came across some Elevation views of the Engine Room that look as if they are also yours. Unfortunately they are in bits and pieces. Did you make any full views from either the Elevation or Cross Section views? Sorry to come to you with my hand out but your drawings have been so helpful in deciphering the plumbing under the deck plates. Tomi's have been most helpful too. Oh, one other request, do you have a Legend for the colored piping labels? Thanks again for your help.

08-09-23, 02:07 PM	#432
Jeff-Groves Village Idiot Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 5,425 Downloads: 131 Uploads: 0	PM Me. I can provide the 3D models.

08-09-23, 02:35 PM	#434
Jeff-Groves Village Idiot Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 5,425 Downloads: 131 Uploads: 0	I got it and replied.