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Old 05-20-20, 02:31 PM   #3616
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But how many of them actually died from the virus?
Does it make any difference?
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Old 05-20-20, 02:32 PM   #3617
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Known new infections in Germany have doubled since Monday, from 400 on Monday over 500 yesterday to 800+ today. Tomorrow is holiday in Germany, and it will be a traditional male-drinks-too-much-beer-kind of holiday, with sunny weather and temps 25-30°C.



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Old 05-20-20, 02:34 PM   #3618
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Does it make any difference?

Not if you're a Democrat Governor ordering Covid patients to be sent into Nursing Homes.
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Old 05-20-20, 03:03 PM   #3619
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Known new infections in Germany have doubled since Monday, from 400 on Monday over 500 yesterday to 800+ today.
And You know that the new infection numbers have followed that pattern for a couple of weeks now. Low values on Mondays (reduced numbers of tests during the weekend), a slight increase from day to day till Friday, followed by a sharp decrease again. Exactly the same pattern week after week, with the rolling average showing a slight decrease since April 15th.

Todays R values: R(old) = 0.88; R(7days/new) = 0.87

Stop panicking!

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Tomorrow is holiday in Germany, and it will be a traditional male-drinks-too-much-beer-kind of holiday, with sunny weather and temps 25-30°C.

I dispise father's day, its as if all chimps from the zoos have a free day out.
Yeah, whatever. I'll raise a glass to your health.
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Old 05-20-20, 03:09 PM   #3620
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And now I can't remember what they use to say here in the news when they tell us how many have died since day before.

Something with

People who have died within 30 days after a positive testresult will be classified as dead directly or indirectly from Covid-19.

How many of those Americans have died directly or indirectly from Covid-19 does these statistic not tell us.

Nor do other statistic

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Old 05-20-20, 03:12 PM   #3621
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Not if you're a Democrat Governor ordering Covid patients to be sent into Nursing Homes.

...or not if your a GOP lying sack president who is more concerned an actual count will make his "numbers" look bad if too many actual deaths are reported; I mean, after all, he seems to be obsessed with the ratings of his "updates" at the press conferences:





Consider this: the actual probability is there are more deaths than have actually been reported since there are strong indications Covid-19 has been in the US earlier than originally suspected and many deaths in the earlier time period attributed to other causes may have been, in fact, directly related to Covid-19 or precipitated by the virus...


BTW, shouldn't the virus crisis already be over? Didn't the "highly stable genius" declare the virus would be gone by May 15th? I'm looking at the calendar and its 20 May and people are still getting sick and people are still dying. I guess he was wrong...

...like he is and has been about so many, many things...

...I mean, its not like he's playing around with people's lives or that his actions contribute to the unnecessary harm and death of US citizens...

...after all, what have got to lose...?...


With any luck, and God's blessing, we'll lose The Giant Orange Idiot Liar...







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Old 05-20-20, 03:22 PM   #3622
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As mentioned in the headlines.
Covid-19 is not just another flu

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The researchers say the conservative estimate of 20 percent of the US population becoming infected by the end of this year could result in the number of deaths climbing to between 350,000 and 1.2 million. However, they were quick to add that these projections are subject to change depending on the public health response to the ongoing crisis.
https://www.iflscience.com/health-an...CMn5JhAck3LGzs

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As mentioned in the headlines.
Covid-19 is not just another flu

Then neither was the Spanish Flu.
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Old 05-20-20, 05:21 PM   #3624
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'Mass casualty incident': Over 600 doctors sign letter warning Trump of dangers of continued lockdowns




Over 600 doctors signed a letter urging President Trump to end the nationwide coronavirus shutdowns and referred to orders issued by states keeping businesses closed as a “mass casualty incident” with devastating consequences.
The letter points out the negative consequences that doctors have observed since state governments started issuing their stay-at-home orders, including patients missing checkups with doctors, increases in substance abuse and alcohol abuse, and negative financial implications, according to Fox News.
"We are alarmed at what appears to be the lack of consideration for the future health of our patients," the letter said. "The downstream health effects ... are being massively under-estimated and under-reported. This is an order of magnitude error."
“In medical terms, the shutdown was a mass casualty incident,” the letter continued. "The millions of casualties of a continued shutdown will be hiding in plain sight, but they will be called alcoholism, homelessness, suicide, heart attack, stroke, or kidney failure. In youths it will be called financial instability, unemployment, despair, drug addiction, unplanned pregnancies, poverty, and abuse.”
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/n...nued-lockdowns
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Old 05-21-20, 01:03 AM   #3625
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I know I'm depressed, but that might be due to my business partner(seems more like I'm his slave) being in town hopefullly only until June more so than due to the virus.
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Old 05-21-20, 01:12 AM   #3626
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A bit of background on the above referenced letter and the origins and backers of the letter effort:


Trump allies lining up doctors to prescribe rapid reopening --

http://liber.post-gazette.com/news/p...s/202005200079


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Republican political operatives are recruiting “extremely pro-Trump” doctors to go on television to prescribe reviving the U.S. economy as quickly as possible, without waiting to meet safety benchmarks proposed by the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention to slow the spread of the new coronavirus.

The plan was discussed in a May 11 conference call with a senior staffer for the Trump reelection campaign organized by CNP Action, an affiliate of the GOP-aligned Council for National Policy. A leaked recording of the hourlong call was provided to The Associated Press by the Center for Media and Democracy, a progressive watchdog group.

CNP Action is part of the Save Our Country Coalition, an alliance of conservative think tanks and political committees formed in late April to end state lockdowns implemented in response to the pandemic. Other members of the coalition include the FreedomWorks Foundation, the American Legislative Exchange Council and Tea Party Patriots.

It should also be pointed out there is no indication in the letter of the signatories field of expertise and/or specialization; the letter doesn't really tell you if the signatories have any real educated knowledge of or experience in virology, contagious diseases, or epidemiology; in fact, the designation D.O., which a good many of the signers use, is used by chiropractors; those with F.A.A.P. are pediatricians; I checked on some of those with just M.D. after their names and found all sorts of doctors, ranging from orthopedists to non-specialists; some even have D.D.S. after their names, a designation used by dentists; the letter seems to rely solely on volume rather than substance when it comes to those signing the letter; indeed, the whole exercise, based on how it was cobbled together and the way signatories were sought roundly demonstrates political leanings and loyalties were very much more highly valued over any actual expertise in the pertinent medical fields necessary in dealing with a pandemic...

Its sort of like taking the advice of a chiropractor in treating a cardiac condition, or seeking the counsel of a dentist to treat a serious viral infection; just because they have M.D. after their name, it doesn't mean they are the right or qualified M.D. to treat your severe diseases...


It always pays to actually find out the facts behind the story...






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The number of confirmed cases since the outbreak began passes 5m

The number of people with Covid-19 who have died is 328,000 - Johns Hopkins University tracker.

The UK is running out of time to set up a "track and trace" system, warns the NHS Confederation.

Trials of two anti-malarial drugs to see if they can prevent infection begin in the UK.

Brazil authorises the same drugs - chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine - to treat Covid-19
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In the UK, 338 people with coronavirus died on Wednesday, according to the Department for Health.

That takes the UK's total to 36,042 deaths.

The true figure for total deaths is likely to be higher as not everyone is tested.

Meanwhile, 128,340 tests were carried out on Wednesday, taking the total number of tests up to 3,090,566.

Scotland will reopen all schools from 11 August, First Minister Nicola Sturgeon says.

The number of Americans seeking unemployment benefits rises to 38.6m - almost a quarter of the workforce.

A two-day-old baby dies with coronavirus in South Africa - one of the world's youngest victims of the virus.

The number of confirmed cases worldwide since the outbreak began passes five million.

More than 328,000 people have died with Covid-19, and 1.9 million have recovered, according to data from Johns Hopkins University.
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Old 05-21-20, 10:50 AM   #3630
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Listening solely to the medical 'experts' have set on us on a course of self destruction. Massive tax hikes are inevitable, inflation, unemployment, homelessness, poverty, higher suicide rates, starvation all stand a pretty good chance of far surpassing any damage caused by COVID-19. Lets not forget printing trillions out of thin air to prop it all up.

We better find a happy median between COVID-19 and economy real quick because it all may come crashing down fairly soon.
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