Here we go again-Ukraine once again

[mapuc]

Originally Posted by Rockstar

It’s called “time over target” the less time you spend flying around sightseeing the less chance you have of being discovered or shot down. Looking at the above video I think that aircraft could have accomplished it’s mission and made it home for tea.

Makes sense this "Time over target" thou less you are there thou less is the chance for being shot down.

Markus

[Skybird]

Its ArmA, and its AI since always has been "suboptimal" to "desastrous". There are several videos of Flak tanks shooting at things. It looks entertaining, but is unrealistic. Inb MP I assume it is good fun. Against the AI I have given up to play - its pointless. And the vehicle AI is worse than the infantry AI.

[Skybird]

Anbdreas Unterberger from Austria sums up the many opportunties in his blog when the West would have needed to set up red lines to Putin, but never did and always reacted soft like a marshmallow:


When he invaded Georgia to conquer two territories there.
When his troops had occupied a part of Moldova.
When his air force and submarines had set constant provocations against other countries.
When he had begun to throw countless Russians into prison for their opinions.
When he had dissidents murdered even abroad.
When his hackers had repeatedly attacked Western Internet networks.
When he had verbally denied Ukraine the right to freedom and independence for over a decade.
When he had invaded Crimea and eastern Ukraine as early as seven years ago.
When he had transformed a democracy - which Russia had clearly been under Yeltsin - step by step into a brutal dictatorship.
When he had successively and now totally turned off freedom of speech in Russia.
When he had only brutal dictators as friends in the whole world.
When he had intervened in Kazakhstan and in Belarus against its citizens in order to save the autocrat there.


Just a reminder of the many, many situations when the West reacted wrong.

[Catfish]

War in Ukraine: Protesters in Kherson appear to make Russian truck reverse

https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-europe-60819031

The BBC has verified and geolocated this footage, but the source is unknown.

[Onkel Neal]

Originally Posted by Skybird

Anbdreas Unterberger from Austria sums up the many opportunties in his blog when the West would have needed to set up red lines to Putin, but never did and always reacted soft like a marshmallow:



When he had transformed a democracy - which Russia had clearly been under Yeltsin - step by step into a brutal dictatorship.



Just a reminder of the many, many situations when the West reacted wrong.

The one thing I am not in agreement with, I don't think Russia was a democracy under Yeltsin. Perhaps not a fascist country as it is today under Putin, but from what I've read and remember, the Yeltsin clique gave lip service to democracy but actually started off the whole "trade state assets for favors and wealth" thing. I could be wrong.

[Jimbuna]

Ukraine has refused to surrender the besieged city of Mariupol, as Russian forces targeted the strategic port city of Odesa for the first time and intensified attacks on the capital Kyiv.

Kyiv's mayor Vitali Klitschko announced a 40-hour curfew from 8pm local time tonight until 7am on Wednesday and ordered people to "stay at home - or in shelters when the alarm sounds" following the spike in indiscriminate attacks.

Meanwhile, the Russian advance on Kyiv appeared to have stalled, with Ukrainian forces also holding on to the eastern city of Kharkiv, as residents on the outskirts of Odesa who have been braced for an attack for weeks cleared debris from a Russian strike from the Black Sea.

It came as residents refused Russia's offer of "safe passage" out of Mariupol - with Ukraine's deputy prime minister and an adviser to the southern port city's mayor both saying there would be "no talk of any surrender" or the "laying down of arms".

Few details were given of what would happen if the deal was rejected, although the Russian ministry of defence said the city's authorities could face a military tribunal if they sided with "bandits", according to Russian state news agency RIA Novosti.

[Jimbuna]

In Kyiv, eight people are reported dead in shelling on a residential area and shopping centre.

The mayor of Kyiv announces a curfew in the city from 2000 local time on Monday to 0700 local time on Wednesday.

Ukraine ignores Russia's demand it gives up the city of Mariupol by 05:00 Moscow time, saying there is "no question of any surrender"

Russia had offered to give civilians and fighters safe passage out of the city as long as they gave up their weapons.

Ukraine's president has accused Russia of war crimes in Mariupol, where heavy fighting has now reached the city centre.

An estimated 90% of the city's buildings have been damaged or destroyed, 300,000 people remain trapped,

[mapuc]

A funny input
El Whacko posted a funny picture in our Funny Picture thread.

Where the world congratulate Germany for not having started WWIII.

Lets blame them anyway-Like the world did after WWI

End of a funny input

Markus

[Armistead]

As tragic as it is, surrendering Mariupol could never be an option. It would just free and release forces to attack other cities to suffer the same fate.

[Jimbuna]

OUTSTANDING

[Jimbuna]

[mapuc]

I copied following from a livestream I follow

"
Komsomolskaya Pravda, the pro-Kremlin tabloid, says that according to Russian ministry of defense numbers, 9,861 Russian soldiers died in Ukraine and 16,153 were injured.
"

This person then posted this
"
seems someone leaked the real numbers on accident, on march 2, the official Russian KIA figure was 498
"

I believe the one with 9861 dead is more accurate

Markus

[Jimbuna]

Aye

[mapuc]

Instead of copy the entire article I compressed it to this

"
The reason for this Russian ultimatum to the residents of Mariupol is psychological. By smashing the city, they will send a warning to the other cities about what will happen if they fight back
"

Markus

[August]

Originally Posted by mapuc

I believe the one with 9861 dead is more accurate

Markus

More accurate than the first number certainly. I wonder if it includes the thousands who have deserted.


There are lots of abandoned Russian vehicles littering the Ukrainian countryside and no bodies for the Ukrainians to add to their count of Russian dead, but the Russians might add them to their own casualty counts, which I'll bet are still under counted. I'm making a WAG that it'll be somewhere closer to the Ukrainian numbers.