Here we go again-Ukraine once again - Page 165

tmccarthy · 03-19-22, 04:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Otto Harkaman

The media's "Zelensky's NATO concession" I didn't take his words to mean Ukraine didn't want to join NATO. I took it that he was presenting hard facts to his people, "don't expect NATO to let us join in the middle of this crisis".

Yes, just adding that it also means that they and probably NATO will be signing an agreement, Russia's demand, that Ukraine never join NATO.

Skybird · 03-19-22, 05:23 AM

Jan Fleischhauer for FOCUS:

An acquaintance of mine has founded an association whose purpose is to rename the street Unter den Linden in Berlin. Not the whole street, only a small section, namely the one between the house numbers 63 and 65, which is the part where the Russian embassy is located. In the future, this section will be called "Wolodymyr Selenskyj Platz", after the Ukrainian president. The official address of the embassy would then be Volodymyr Selenskyj Square 1.

On all letterheads and business cards, the address would have to be changed accordingly. Anyone searching for the embassy on Google Maps would be given the new address. When one of the embassy employees gets into a cab to be taken to his workplace, my acquaintance imagines that the following dialogue could ensue:

Passenger: "To the Russian Embassy, please." Cab driver: "Don't know it, where is it?" Passenger whispers: "Wolodymyr Selenskyj Platz 1.

Translated with www.DeepL.com/Translator (free version)

Skybird · 03-19-22, 06:08 AM

The Russian Air Force has destroyed a missile arsenal in the Ivano-Frankivsk region with the "Kinschal" (Dagger) hypersonic missile in its war against Ukraine, according to Moscow. The Ukrainian Air Force's underground ammunition depot in Delyatyn in southwestern Ukraine was destroyed by the ballistic missile on Friday, it said. Russian Defense Ministry spokesman Major General Igor Konoshenkov said on Saturday. In the Odessa region on the Black Sea, two bases of military reconnaissance were destroyed, he said. The information could not be verified.

It is the first time since the beginning of the war that Russia has reported the use of its new "Kinshal" air-to-surface ballistic missile. It was the first use ever in combat, it said. So far, the weapons have been used mainly in maneuvers - most recently a few days before the invasion of Ukraine, which began Feb. 24.

Launched by MiF-31 fighter jets, the "Kinshal" missiles can hit targets up to 2,000 kilometers away - bypassing all air defense systems, according to Russian data. Hypersonic missiles exceed the speed of sound several times over and fly at more than three kilometers per second.

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Russia is reported to have evacuated its forward air base at Kherson International Airport. This is reported by Finnish journalist Petri Mäkelä, among others.

The reason is apparently that Ukraine managed to destroy the corps headquarters of the Russian army around Kherson, which was established there. For counterattacks and an announced recapture of the city, this is an enormous help, it is said.

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According to several reports, the Ukrainian army has already killed the fifth Russian general since the beginning of the war in Ukraine. According to the report, Lieutenant General Andrei Mordvichev was killed in the south of Ukraine. This information has not yet been verified.

Already in the past days the reports about dead Russian generals increased, four are supposed to have been it before Mordwitschew. Since the beginning of the war, there has been no information from the Russian army about any dead generals.

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The Ukrainian military reported early Saturday morning that it had destroyed another group of Russian military helicopters. This is reportedly the sixth strike in recent weeks against Russian helicopters at Chernobayevka airport.

According to reports, the Russian army continues to transport helicopters there, which are then easily destroyed.

FOCUS

Translated with www.DeepL.com/Translator (free version)

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Vicous street fighting prevents/delays rescue works at the Mariupol Drama Theatre where still hundreds are suspected to be trapped under the rubble. Depuzty mayor of the city gave the number to be "1200-1300".

North of Kiev, on both sides of the Dnjepr, the Russian army has stalled apparently, all assault corridors possible have been blocked, claim the Ukrainians. The Russian are seen to have started digging themselves in. It seems they prepare for besieging and shelling the city, but much of their artillery currently is being kept at a distance where it cannot strike the city - claim the Ukrainians. The city apparently still can be supplied because its southern borders are still open. The defenders say about themselves that they are well prepared and well dug in.

Where the famous Russian long convoy was ten days ago, the Russians are seen to install what appears to be fuel pipelines - which seem to reach back as far as into Belarus.

Tap fuel...?

It seems that the seocnd echelon of the Russians, atr least in the North, ha sbigged down, too. Whcih means Putin can extened the war, he can do a lot of devastating damage - but he cnanot win anymore, cannot meet his objectives. The Ukraine still needs to have a long breath, but can win this by preventing the Russians to achieve the objectives on the ground. In the south however the Russians slowly advance. Slowly, and interrupted. If this is enough depends on hwo the ukrainains will react to this in the forseeable couple of days.

With how it is going for the Russians I cannot see how they could even reach the Dnjepr in full length to divide the Ukraine as possibly was intended.

If they now dig in at Kiev, it mans they sit still in cluntry where the population is hostile and where they must expect 24/ to get clubbed from any direciton at any time. - Welcome to Ukraine holiday park - have a nice stay.

Jimbuna · 03-19-22, 06:58 AM

Street fighting is stopping rescuers reaching hundreds of survivors trapped beneath a shelled theatre, Mariupol's mayor tells the BBC

Mayor Vadym Boychenko says Ukrainian forces are doing their all to hold off a larger Russian force inside the southern port city.

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky calls on Russia to come to the negotiating table "without delay"

He urges Russia to limit its own losses, saying it's time to restore "territorial integrity and justice" for Ukraine.

Russia's Vladimir Putin accuses Ukraine of stalling peace talks with "unrealistic proposals" in a call with the German chancellor.

Elsewhere, fierce fighting is continuing more than three weeks after Russia launched its full-scale invasion.

The UK says Russia has been “surprised by the scale and ferocity of the Ukrainian resistance” since it attacked its southern neighbour.

Jimbuna · 03-19-22, 07:00 AM

Russian cosmonauts have arrived at the International Space Station wearing Ukrainian colours, in what appears to be a statement opposing the invasion.

The three men were the first new arrivals since Russia attacked its eastern neighbour last month.

They were warmly welcomed on board, hugging and greeting their fellow American, Russian and German crew.

The trio wore bright yellow space suits with blue accents, instead of their standard-issue blue uniform.

Jimbuna · 03-19-22, 07:02 AM

Russia said it had used hypersonic missiles to target an underground weapons storage unit in western Ukraine.

But what type of weapon are they?

Hypersonic missiles can fly in the upper atmosphere at more than five times the speed of sound.

They are considered more manoeuvrable than conventional missiles and are more capable of avoiding interception from air defence.

Russia's defence ministry said the missile used to target the arms depot in Ukraine was capable of reaching targets at a range of more than 2,000km (1,242 miles)

Last year, Russia said it had successfully test-fired a hypersonic missile from a frigate in the White Sea off its north-western coast.

It said it aimed to include the weapon when arming Russian cruisers and submarines.

Along with Russia, China, the US, and at least five other countries are working on hypersonic missile technology.

mapuc · 03-19-22, 08:00 AM

Russian internet joke: “We are now entering day 24 of the special military operation to take Kyiv in two days.”
Garry Kasparov

Made me laugh when I read it.

Markus

Skybird · 03-19-22, 11:41 AM

After Russian cosmonauts docked at the International Space Station wearing yellow inflight suits with blue accents — the national colors of Ukraine — cosmonaut Oleg Artemyev denied it was a signal of support for Kyiv.
He said that the suits were made up to six months before the Friday flight.
"You shouldn't look for secret signs and symbols in our uniforms," Artemyev was quoted as saying by the Russian space agency Roskosmos. "The color is just the color, it is in no way related to Ukraine."

Deutsche Welle

Catfish · 03-19-22, 12:49 PM

^ too bad it was not intentional, but maybe it saves their a$$es after return to Putin's new Russia.

Catfish · 03-19-22, 12:51 PM

Wounded Russian soldiers fill Belarusian hospitals

"There are KGB or FSB employees on the staff. All buildings are under surveillance. Many doctors, who could, in theory, have said something, have been removed from the hospitals and replaced by Russians," a spokesperson said, adding that many doctors and hospital employees were afraid to talk about what they had seen or done. The spokesperson that since hospitals in Belarus were overwhelmed, "when possible, the wounded are being brought to Russia by train" and confirmed that there were also many dead soldiers."

https://beta.dw.com/en/wounded-russi...als/a-61181434

Aktungbby · 03-19-22, 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Catfish

^ too bad it was not intentional, but maybe it saves their a$$es after return to Putin's new Russia.

That's aßes; please don't insult the almighty buck!

Catfish · 03-19-22, 03:18 PM

^ nope, if used in plural there are always to SSes, never a ß. And it is an sz not an "eszett"

If i knew a proper description of what i think about the almighty buck it would probably destroy this world

mapuc · 03-19-22, 03:38 PM

Is a false flag operation on it's way with the use of chemical weapon ?

Quote:

Russia’s Defense Ministry said Wednesday that Ukraine’s security service plans to carry out a chemical attack on civilians and then blame it on Russia.

"We know for sure that with the support of Western countries, the SBU (Security Service of Ukraine) is preparing a provocation with the use of toxic substances against civilians.

https://www.aa.com.tr/en/russia-ukra...eapons/2537712

The Russian will use this as an excuse to use chemical weapon in the war.

Markus

Aktungbby · 03-19-22, 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Catfish

^ nope, if used in plural there are always to SSes, never a ß. And it is an sz not an "eszett"

If i knew a proper description of what i think about the almighty buck it would probably destroy this world

I'm such an aß! What do I really know of Teutonic punctation!

Catfish · 03-19-22, 04:17 PM

Putin has already lied about chemical, biological and whatnot weapons developed in Ukraine, i guess this is why he shells it so much so all of it will be blown towards Russia

Just a pretext to have a "reason" to use all of this on the Ukranians. Lies as usual.

03-19-22, 05:23 AM	#2462
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 40,656 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	Jan Fleischhauer for FOCUS: An acquaintance of mine has founded an association whose purpose is to rename the street Unter den Linden in Berlin. Not the whole street, only a small section, namely the one between the house numbers 63 and 65, which is the part where the Russian embassy is located. In the future, this section will be called "Wolodymyr Selenskyj Platz", after the Ukrainian president. The official address of the embassy would then be Volodymyr Selenskyj Square 1. On all letterheads and business cards, the address would have to be changed accordingly. Anyone searching for the embassy on Google Maps would be given the new address. When one of the embassy employees gets into a cab to be taken to his workplace, my acquaintance imagines that the following dialogue could ensue: Passenger: "To the Russian Embassy, please." Cab driver: "Don't know it, where is it?" Passenger whispers: "Wolodymyr Selenskyj Platz 1. Translated with www.DeepL.com/Translator (free version) __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

03-19-22, 06:08 AM	#2463
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 40,656 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	The Russian Air Force has destroyed a missile arsenal in the Ivano-Frankivsk region with the "Kinschal" (Dagger) hypersonic missile in its war against Ukraine, according to Moscow. The Ukrainian Air Force's underground ammunition depot in Delyatyn in southwestern Ukraine was destroyed by the ballistic missile on Friday, it said. Russian Defense Ministry spokesman Major General Igor Konoshenkov said on Saturday. In the Odessa region on the Black Sea, two bases of military reconnaissance were destroyed, he said. The information could not be verified. It is the first time since the beginning of the war that Russia has reported the use of its new "Kinshal" air-to-surface ballistic missile. It was the first use ever in combat, it said. So far, the weapons have been used mainly in maneuvers - most recently a few days before the invasion of Ukraine, which began Feb. 24. Launched by MiF-31 fighter jets, the "Kinshal" missiles can hit targets up to 2,000 kilometers away - bypassing all air defense systems, according to Russian data. Hypersonic missiles exceed the speed of sound several times over and fly at more than three kilometers per second. ------------------------- Russia is reported to have evacuated its forward air base at Kherson International Airport. This is reported by Finnish journalist Petri Mäkelä, among others. The reason is apparently that Ukraine managed to destroy the corps headquarters of the Russian army around Kherson, which was established there. For counterattacks and an announced recapture of the city, this is an enormous help, it is said. ----------------------- According to several reports, the Ukrainian army has already killed the fifth Russian general since the beginning of the war in Ukraine. According to the report, Lieutenant General Andrei Mordvichev was killed in the south of Ukraine. This information has not yet been verified. Already in the past days the reports about dead Russian generals increased, four are supposed to have been it before Mordwitschew. Since the beginning of the war, there has been no information from the Russian army about any dead generals. ------------- The Ukrainian military reported early Saturday morning that it had destroyed another group of Russian military helicopters. This is reportedly the sixth strike in recent weeks against Russian helicopters at Chernobayevka airport. According to reports, the Russian army continues to transport helicopters there, which are then easily destroyed. FOCUS Translated with www.DeepL.com/Translator (free version) ------------------ Vicous street fighting prevents/delays rescue works at the Mariupol Drama Theatre where still hundreds are suspected to be trapped under the rubble. Depuzty mayor of the city gave the number to be "1200-1300". North of Kiev, on both sides of the Dnjepr, the Russian army has stalled apparently, all assault corridors possible have been blocked, claim the Ukrainians. The Russian are seen to have started digging themselves in. It seems they prepare for besieging and shelling the city, but much of their artillery currently is being kept at a distance where it cannot strike the city - claim the Ukrainians. The city apparently still can be supplied because its southern borders are still open. The defenders say about themselves that they are well prepared and well dug in. Where the famous Russian long convoy was ten days ago, the Russians are seen to install what appears to be fuel pipelines - which seem to reach back as far as into Belarus. Tap fuel...? It seems that the seocnd echelon of the Russians, atr least in the North, ha sbigged down, too. Whcih means Putin can extened the war, he can do a lot of devastating damage - but he cnanot win anymore, cannot meet his objectives. The Ukraine still needs to have a long breath, but can win this by preventing the Russians to achieve the objectives on the ground. In the south however the Russians slowly advance. Slowly, and interrupted. If this is enough depends on hwo the ukrainains will react to this in the forseeable couple of days. With how it is going for the Russians I cannot see how they could even reach the Dnjepr in full length to divide the Ukraine as possibly was intended. If they now dig in at Kiev, it mans they sit still in cluntry where the population is hostile and where they must expect 24/ to get clubbed from any direciton at any time. - Welcome to Ukraine holiday park - have a nice stay. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert. Last edited by Skybird; 03-19-22 at 06:24 AM.

03-19-22, 06:58 AM	#2464
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 181,386 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	Street fighting is stopping rescuers reaching hundreds of survivors trapped beneath a shelled theatre, Mariupol's mayor tells the BBC Mayor Vadym Boychenko says Ukrainian forces are doing their all to hold off a larger Russian force inside the southern port city. Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky calls on Russia to come to the negotiating table "without delay" He urges Russia to limit its own losses, saying it's time to restore "territorial integrity and justice" for Ukraine. Russia's Vladimir Putin accuses Ukraine of stalling peace talks with "unrealistic proposals" in a call with the German chancellor. Elsewhere, fierce fighting is continuing more than three weeks after Russia launched its full-scale invasion. The UK says Russia has been “surprised by the scale and ferocity of the Ukrainian resistance” since it attacked its southern neighbour. __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!! GWX3.0 Download Page - Donation/instant access to GWX (Help SubSim)

03-19-22, 07:00 AM	#2465
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 181,386 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	Russian cosmonauts have arrived at the International Space Station wearing Ukrainian colours, in what appears to be a statement opposing the invasion. The three men were the first new arrivals since Russia attacked its eastern neighbour last month. They were warmly welcomed on board, hugging and greeting their fellow American, Russian and German crew. The trio wore bright yellow space suits with blue accents, instead of their standard-issue blue uniform. __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!! GWX3.0 Download Page - Donation/instant access to GWX (Help SubSim)

03-19-22, 07:02 AM	#2466
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 181,386 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	Russia said it had used hypersonic missiles to target an underground weapons storage unit in western Ukraine. But what type of weapon are they? Hypersonic missiles can fly in the upper atmosphere at more than five times the speed of sound. They are considered more manoeuvrable than conventional missiles and are more capable of avoiding interception from air defence. Russia's defence ministry said the missile used to target the arms depot in Ukraine was capable of reaching targets at a range of more than 2,000km (1,242 miles) Last year, Russia said it had successfully test-fired a hypersonic missile from a frigate in the White Sea off its north-western coast. It said it aimed to include the weapon when arming Russian cruisers and submarines. Along with Russia, China, the US, and at least five other countries are working on hypersonic missile technology. __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!! GWX3.0 Download Page - Donation/instant access to GWX (Help SubSim)

03-19-22, 08:00 AM	#2467
mapuc Fleet Admiral Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Denmark Posts: 18,122 Downloads: 37 Uploads: 0	Russian internet joke: “We are now entering day 24 of the special military operation to take Kyiv in two days.” Garry Kasparov Made me laugh when I read it. Markus __________________ My little lovely female cat

03-19-22, 11:41 AM	#2468
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 40,656 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	After Russian cosmonauts docked at the International Space Station wearing yellow inflight suits with blue accents — the national colors of Ukraine — cosmonaut Oleg Artemyev denied it was a signal of support for Kyiv. He said that the suits were made up to six months before the Friday flight. "You shouldn't look for secret signs and symbols in our uniforms," Artemyev was quoted as saying by the Russian space agency Roskosmos. "The color is just the color, it is in no way related to Ukraine." Deutsche Welle __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

03-19-22, 12:49 PM	#2469
Catfish Dipped Squirrel Operative Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: ..where the ocean meets the sky Posts: 16,905 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	^ too bad it was not intentional, but maybe it saves their a$$es after return to Putin's new Russia. __________________ >^..^<*)))>{ All generalizations are wrong.

03-19-22, 12:51 PM	#2470
Catfish Dipped Squirrel Operative Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: ..where the ocean meets the sky Posts: 16,905 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	Wounded Russian soldiers fill Belarusian hospitals "There are KGB or FSB employees on the staff. All buildings are under surveillance. Many doctors, who could, in theory, have said something, have been removed from the hospitals and replaced by Russians," a spokesperson said, adding that many doctors and hospital employees were afraid to talk about what they had seen or done. The spokesperson that since hospitals in Belarus were overwhelmed, "when possible, the wounded are being brought to Russia by train" and confirmed that there were also many dead soldiers." https://beta.dw.com/en/wounded-russi...als/a-61181434 __________________ >^..^<*)))>{ All generalizations are wrong.

03-19-22, 03:18 PM	#2472
Catfish Dipped Squirrel Operative Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: ..where the ocean meets the sky Posts: 16,905 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	^ nope, if used in plural there are always to SSes, never a ß. And it is an sz not an "eszett" If i knew a proper description of what i think about the almighty buck it would probably destroy this world __________________ >^..^<*)))>{ All generalizations are wrong.

03-19-22, 04:17 PM	#2475
Catfish Dipped Squirrel Operative Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: ..where the ocean meets the sky Posts: 16,905 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	Putin has already lied about chemical, biological and whatnot weapons developed in Ukraine, i guess this is why he shells it so much so all of it will be blown towards Russia Just a pretext to have a "reason" to use all of this on the Ukranians. Lies as usual. __________________ >^..^<*)))>{ All generalizations are wrong.