US Politics Thread 2021-24

[mapuc]

Originally Posted by 3catcircus

So why is it that EU countries seem to limit abortion after 1st trimester, yet abortion activists in the US continue with messaging that the US is repressive unlike the enlightened Europeans...

To be honest I don't know.

What I do know is that people in Europe fancy USA because they think they are so free
And Americans think the same about Europe.

This is the impression I got.

Markus

[Arlo]

Originally Posted by MaDef

LOL.... you forgot to mention the 21 week limit, the 5 day waiting period, or that abortions must be performed in a hospital or clinic that is certified to perform said abortions. And after 12 weeks, 2 doctors must sign off on that course of treatment. Its not as cut and dried as you try to make it. But I'll give you an "E" for effort.

Well this avoided the facts mentioned, entirely. Not into fact checking, I see.

[Arlo]

[u crank]

Of the 438,000 children in foster care, how many of them were not aborted because of an existing law in the USA?

[MaDef]

If you say so.

[Arlo]

Originally Posted by MaDef

If you say so.

Address one fact, directly. Just one. Prove it false. Or prove it true, for that matter. 'But-what-about-isms' don't count. If you didn't wanna try then you could have just not posted.

[MaDef]

I did, "abortion is freely available on demand" is an exaggeration. Abortions are on,y available on "demand" during the first 17 days of pregnancy, after that restrictions and regulations come into play. After 22 weeks abortions are almost non existent.

How's that for addressing your "facts"?

[Skybird]

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/ele...l-law-n1278602

When the electorate elects party representatives and thus influences the names and ideological structure of the governing bodies, it is - historically misleadingly - called (modern) "democracy".

How is it called if a party in fear to lose power tries to create the electorate that it needs to get elected by hindering opposing voters from access to elections? "Freer democracy", maybe?

critics point to the reduction in early voting hours in some of the state's most populous areas, which will now be prohibited from allowing overnight early voting.
(...)
Republicans say the legislation is necessary to prevent voter fraud from occurring, despite broad evidence indicating that voter fraud is exceedingly rare.

The law bans drive-thru and overnight early voting, which were popular in Houston's Harris County during the pandemic.

[Rockstar]

https://www.texasattorneygeneral.gov...ve-thru-voting

October 16, 2020

Dear Texas Elections Officials: Some political subdivisions throughout Texas have expanded their use of "curbside" voting this election season to offer expansive "drive-thru" voting to all registered voters. This letter serves as a notice and reminder that the Election Code provides curbside voting as an option only to those who meet a certain, narrow set of criteria. Curbside voting is not, as some have asserted contrary to Texas law, an option for any and all voters who simply wish to vote from the comfort of their cars when they are physically able to enter the polling place.

The Texas Election Code provides that "[e]ach polling place shall be located inside a building." Tex. Elec. Code § 43.031(b). The Code makes no provision for polling places located outdoors, in parking lots, or in parking structures. More specifically, the Code makes no provision for "drive-thru" voting centers at which any voter may cast a ballot from his or her vehicle regardless of physical condition.

The Code does, however, provide a limited allowance for "curbside" voting for those who face certain barriers to entering established polling places. Specifically, an election official may provide a ballot to a registered voter "at the polling place entrance or curb" only if the voter is "physically unable to enter the polling place without personal assistance or likelihood of injuring the voter's health." Tex. Elec. Code§ 64.009(a). But if a voter can enter the polling place on his or her own without a likelihood of injury, then it is unlawful for an election official to allow that voter to cast a ballot outside the polling place.

While election officials should not ordinarily question a voter's good-faith representation that the voter is physically unable to enter a polling place, officials should not actively encourage voters to engage in unauthorized curbside voting when they fail to meet the requisite legal criteria. Fear of COVID-19 does not render a voter physically unable to cast a ballot inside a polling place without assistance. Accordingly, election officials should not advise voters that such fear qualifies them to cast a curbside ballot.

Elections must be held in compliance with these Election Code provisions. Encouraging or facilitating election operations that violate these rules is unlawful and could result in legal liability for political subdivisions and their officials. My office is committed to enforcing our State's laws to ensure safe, free, and fair elections.

Sincerely,

Ken Paxton
Attorney General of Texas

You know if this is true I suppose people could tell their elected officials they want the current laws looked at and see what can be done to change it.

But instead…




And in the end nothing will be done to change it because it’s useful to the opposing party and people just love the drama.

[Arlo]

Originally Posted by MaDef

I did, "abortion is freely available on demand" is an exaggeration. Abortions are on,y available on "demand" during the first 17 days of pregnancy, after that restrictions and regulations come into play. After 22 weeks abortions are almost non existent.

How's that for addressing your "facts"?

Not very good, actually.

Current Norwegian legislation and public health policy provides for abortion on request in the first 12 weeks of gestation, by application up to the 18th week.

So ... sounds like that one fact checked as true, in spite of the false color you attempted to add. How about the rest? Wanna give it a shot?

[3catcircus]

Originally Posted by Arlo

Not very good, actually.

Current Norwegian legislation and public health policy provides for abortion on request in the first 12 weeks of gestation, by application up to the 18th week.

So ... sounds like that one fact checked as true, in spite of the false color you attempted to add. How about the rest? Wanna give it a shot?

Norway isn't Denmark isn't Sweden isn't Holland isn't...

https://abortion-policies.srhr.org/countries/

[MaDef]

Originally Posted by Arlo

Not very good, actually.

Current Norwegian legislation and public health policy provides for abortion on request in the first 12 weeks of gestation, by application up to the 18th week.

So ... sounds like that one fact checked as true, in spite of the false color you attempted to add. How about the rest? Wanna give it a shot?

Norway is not the Netherlands.

[Arlo]

Right you are.

Abortion in the Netherlands was fully legalized on November 1, 1984, allowing abortions to be done on-demand until the twenty-first week. Abortion for medical reasons can be performed until 24 weeks. There is a five-day waiting period for abortions.

[em2nought]

The party of empathy.

"Get That Sellout Piece Of Sh*t Out Of Here"

https://dailycaller.com/2021/09/08/l...-gorilla-mask/

[3catcircus]

Originally Posted by em2nought

The party of empathy.




https://dailycaller.com/2021/09/08/l...-gorilla-mask/

So what you're saying is that antifa leftist turds are completely unathletic...