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Old 03-15-22, 10:36 PM   #2281
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The west must assist, The big question for the everyday joe in America.Is why?
Is it really?
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That sounds more like a radical position than a conservative one.

Of course the west is assisting as close as it thinks it can without direct conflict. It's still a power game and Putin made a really bad move for once. Belarus is his only allie.
Do i come off to you as a radical ? The people of United States has no interest in the Ukraine! Only our politicians.
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Is it really?
Yes really, What the hell everyday Americans can't get out of this country and mingle with you Europeans.The great Ocean prohibits contact. And our government tells us your nothing but a bunch of people with hereditary problems. Ok i'm going to back walk that and in a few months we can circle back.

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Do i come off to you as a radical ? The people of United States has no interest in the Ukraine! Only our politicians.
Even if so the US would still be impacted by the war. How nice it would be if the US could just declare itself free from international, rather global, power games. It can't, and I don't see how it can be avoided, which is why post WW2 the US has devoted resources for defense aimed at a clearly globally dominant nature.

I simply don't think isolationism works because we don't choose our neighbors, but we do work at influencing them for self preservation.
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Most every nation has Bio labs and they're 59 level 4 spread labs are around the world. The issue becomes of course gain of function, or worse, weaponizing. Russia has weaponized and stockpiled eleven bio-agents known. I think the expectation as Russia gets bogged down in cities is they will use chemical weapons, because they don't have the forces to hold a city. Ukraine's lab is well known in the world community and the World Health Organization has asked Ukraine to destroy any dangerous pathogens in its laboratories. Russia is creating a lot of propaganda from this and I think certain it will be used as some false flag to excuse their future of them if they really get mired up. How the world responds, many experts think NATO, rather than boots on the ground, would go to a full cyber attack. Course, that would result in Russia doing the same and it's just a matter of time before conventional war breaks out. Russia would quickly be devastated unless NATO tries a limited push to prompt Putin to leave. If not, then comes the moment would Putin use tactical nukes on the battlefield.. obviously, it only gets worse from there. Putin's in a spot even if he packed up and left tomorrow. Europe has woken up from globalism and will fully finance NATO, their own defense and detach from oil and economic ties from Russia. The only way Russia survives long term economically is to become a proxy state for China and China is gleefully hoping for that to happen. Course China could jump in fray and that's WW3, but China is too smart for that. Putin has put himself in a lose lose situation and he will choose for himself the course. Russia is showing its claws as they've done in the past, leveling cities with bombings.
Are you crazy? The world wants to jump on Russia, When this virus that has claimed millions of lives came from china. And not one country has said they need to pay. I am just a blue collar worker so what do i know. Just an Ant that does their daily job right?

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The US has about a sixfold superiority to the PLA in aircraft although the PLA has cut two years off fighter pilot training by skipping the JL-9.


Top 10 Largest Military Branches in the World (by number of Military Aircraft) - Flight International 2022:
United States Air Force - 5,217
United States Army Aviation - 4,409
Russian Air Force - 3,863
United States Navy - 2,464
People's Liberation Army Air Force (China) - 1,991
Indian Air Force - 1,715
United States Marine Corps - 1,157
Egyptian Air Force - 1,062
Korean People's Army Air Force (North Korea) - 946
South Korean Air Force - 898
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Even if so the US would still be impacted by the war. How nice it would be if the US could just declare itself free from international, rather global, power games. It can't, and I don't see how it can be avoided, which is why post WW2 the US has devoted resources for defense aimed at a clearly globally dominant nature.

I simply don't think isolationism works because we don't choose our neighbors, but we do work at influencing them for self preservation.
Well i would like to know how the american people can self preserve, if our politicians continue down this road.? Will it be the American Socialist party who want world Domination or will it be President Putin ? You do know Our Communist believe they are the smartest right? And for the edit Let the cards fall where they may.

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Well i would like to know how the american people can self preserve, if our politicians continue down this road.? Will it be the American Socialist party who want world Domination or will it be President Putin ?
I suppose it comes down to how much social service you think the government should supply. Roads, bridges, airports, harbors, schools, law and order.

President Putin? Russia is NOT a communist state. It is an oliagarchy dominated by a right wing dictator!
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That sounds more like a radical position than a conservative one.

Of course the west is assisting as close as it thinks it can without direct conflict. It's still a power game and Putin made a really bad move for once. Belarus is his only allie.
Well what is your country doing ?
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Well what is your country doing ?
Same as yours I suspect.
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Same as yours I suspect.
Well our country is giving , Everyone that can get here the American dream, Im sorry, there is no dream. Just sign up for a vote .
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Well our country is giving , Everyone that can get here the American dream, Im sorry, there is no dream. Just sign up for a vote .
For many that is a dream in of itself.
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I suppose it comes down to how much social service you think the government should supply. Roads, bridges, airports, harbors, schools, law and order.

President Putin? Russia is NOT a communist state. It is an oligarchy dominated by a right wing dictator!
Well we have the same oligarchy right here. Only our Oligarch's are Grandpas and Grandmas. Yes they know and only they know like you would know.I like the Chinese and North Korean social system.Every body works' doesn't matter it makes for a more productive population. And nobody loot's and steals and burns. in their country's.

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Oy vey?

I wish my grandparents were more active in my life.
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