SUBSIM Radio Room Forums



SUBSIM: The Web's #1 resource for all submarine & naval simulations since 1997

Go Back   SUBSIM Radio Room Forums > General > General Topics
Forget password? Reset here

Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 03-13-22, 01:22 PM   #2161
Jeff-Groves
Village Idiot
 
Jeff-Groves's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Posts: 5,383
Downloads: 131
Uploads: 0


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimbuna View Post
Putin has taken his country back decades if not centuries.
And scoffers say there's no such thing as time travel!
Jeff-Groves is offline  
Old 03-13-22, 01:31 PM   #2162
mapuc
Fleet Admiral
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Denmark
Posts: 18,116
Downloads: 37
Uploads: 0


Default

Skybird was right about these two suitcases

Then what it said in the link to the Russian military doctrine is wrong. The one I linked to was an old one

Here is the new doctrine from 2021

https://www.armscontrol.org/act/2000...itary-doctrine

Markus
__________________

My little lovely female cat
mapuc is offline  
Old 03-13-22, 01:44 PM   #2163
Jimbuna
Chief of the Boat
 
Jimbuna's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: 250 metres below the surface
Posts: 181,376
Downloads: 63
Uploads: 13


Default

__________________
Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something.
Oh my God, not again!!


GWX3.0 Download Page - Donation/instant access to GWX (Help SubSim)
Jimbuna is online  
Old 03-13-22, 02:28 PM   #2164
mapuc
Fleet Admiral
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Denmark
Posts: 18,116
Downloads: 37
Uploads: 0


Default

There are words I would never put into my mouth and that is word like fake war.

It got it torn some days ago. For about 1-1½ hours I was watching one of these livestream from Kyiv there was 5-6 camera filming in different direction covering their part of the city.

Then in the news at 19 a reporter said while he stood in Kyiv
-Not so long ago there was an air assault not so far behind me-we could hear the explosion.

Me !!?? Which Kyiv is he talking about ? Have just been watching livestream for 1-1½ hours and I did not see any fighter jet or explosion.

It must have been in an area where the camera didn't broadcast from.

Markus
__________________

My little lovely female cat
mapuc is offline  
Old 03-13-22, 02:40 PM   #2165
Commander Wallace
Navy Seal
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Under the sea in an Octupus garden in the shade
Posts: 5,022
Downloads: 360
Uploads: 0


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimbuna View Post
Putin has taken his country back decades if not centuries.

I Think Russia has lost a lot of ground in the furtherance of it's foreign policy objectives as well. I believe the repercussions for Russia may well outlive Putin. That is, If there is a no further escalation of war in the Ukraine or spill over into neighboring countries. I further believe Russia should be removed as a permanent member of the U.N Security Council .
Commander Wallace is offline  
Old 03-13-22, 04:22 PM   #2166
Skybird
Soaring
 
Skybird's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: the mental asylum named Germany
Posts: 40,655
Downloads: 9
Uploads: 0


Default

Maybe Russia just stayed where it always has been, and the imminent past years were just an intermezzo. It was always repressive, and utmost brutal to both the outside and inside.
__________________
If you feel nuts, consult an expert.
Skybird is offline  
Old 03-13-22, 04:38 PM   #2167
Skybird
Soaring
 
Skybird's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: the mental asylum named Germany
Posts: 40,655
Downloads: 9
Uploads: 0


Default

Financial Times says Russia asked China for military equipment.
New York Times says Russia runs out ou weapons of many types now after over two weeks.
__________________
If you feel nuts, consult an expert.
Skybird is offline  
Old 03-13-22, 04:48 PM   #2168
Rockstar
Rear Admiral
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Zendia Bar & Grill
Posts: 11,955
Downloads: 10
Uploads: 0


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Buddahaid View Post
I'm curious to see how far this gets. H. R. 6869.
https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-...9/text?r=1&s=1
I hope gets round filed and burned immediately. Our constitution already grants that power to Congress. Wouldn’t it be wonderful if those useless fooks got off their collective lazy arses and did their job instead of passing the buck.
__________________
Guardian of the honey and nuts


Let's assume I'm right, it'll save time.
Rockstar is online  
Old 03-13-22, 04:48 PM   #2169
mapuc
Fleet Admiral
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Denmark
Posts: 18,116
Downloads: 37
Uploads: 0


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Skybird View Post
Financial Times says Russia asked China for military equipment.
New York Times says Russia runs out ou weapons of many types now after over two weeks.
NATO help Ukraine with weapon and intel

What could prevent China to do the same for Russia help them with weapon.

Markus
__________________

My little lovely female cat
mapuc is offline  
Old 03-13-22, 04:54 PM   #2170
Rockstar
Rear Admiral
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Zendia Bar & Grill
Posts: 11,955
Downloads: 10
Uploads: 0


Default

Why would China get involved and want a stronger Russia? If Russia fails it would make China’s life a lot easier taking former Soviet block states right out from Russias so-called sphere’s of influence in Eastern Asia. If Putin fails to take Ukraine he is basically placing Russia in a position to be eaten alive by China. He ought seriously consider stepping down and allow someone willing to work WITH Europe rather than against and maybe go so far as to join NATO
__________________
Guardian of the honey and nuts


Let's assume I'm right, it'll save time.
Rockstar is online  
Old 03-13-22, 05:08 PM   #2171
mapuc
Fleet Admiral
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Denmark
Posts: 18,116
Downloads: 37
Uploads: 0


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rockstar View Post
Why would China get involved and want a stronger Russia? If Russia fails it would make China’s life a lot easier taking former Soviet block states right out from Russias so-called sphere’s of influence in Eastern Asia. If Putin fails to take Ukraine he is basically placing Russia in a position to be eaten alive by China. He ought seriously consider stepping down and allow someone willing to work WITH Europe rather than against and maybe go so far as to join NATO
Good question-Would China help Russia by selling them weapon and weapon systems ?

I don't know-time will tell.

Markus
__________________

My little lovely female cat
mapuc is offline  
Old 03-13-22, 05:15 PM   #2172
Skybird
Soaring
 
Skybird's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: the mental asylum named Germany
Posts: 40,655
Downloads: 9
Uploads: 0


Default

DW says Kyiv and Moscow negotiators hint at results yielded within few days.

The longer the war alsts, the stronger Ukrainian positions become in the3se negotiations, sinc epressure is mounting in Putin every day.

I place a bet: in the forseeable future I think Putin will get overthrown from within, this way or any other. He is done.
__________________
If you feel nuts, consult an expert.
Skybird is offline  
Old 03-13-22, 05:23 PM   #2173
Skybird
Soaring
 
Skybird's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: the mental asylum named Germany
Posts: 40,655
Downloads: 9
Uploads: 0


Default

And then there is this strange political genius who filed a word or two on how he would have dealt with the war:

Over the weekend, the former President provided a glimpse into how he may have handled on the ongoing Russian invasion of Ukraine -- and it is a doozy.
According to audio obtained by The Washington Post, Trump told a group of Republican donors in New Orleans that the United States should paint Chinese flags on its F-22 planes and then use those planes to bomb Russia.
"And then we say, 'China did it, we didn't do it, China did it,' and then they start fighting with each other and we sit back and watch," Trump concluded.
Uh, what?


https://edition.cnn.com/2022/03/07/p...sia/index.html

Oh Donald, how much we need you in these grim times while Laurel and Hardy are gone since so long. If your brain would be made of chocolate, you wouldn't have enough to fill a single Smartie, but I laugh nevertheless.
__________________
If you feel nuts, consult an expert.
Skybird is offline  
Old 03-13-22, 05:39 PM   #2174
mapuc
Fleet Admiral
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Denmark
Posts: 18,116
Downloads: 37
Uploads: 0


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Skybird View Post
DW says Kyiv and Moscow negotiators hint at results yielded within few days.

The longer the war alsts, the stronger Ukrainian positions become in the3se negotiations, sinc epressure is mounting in Putin every day.

I place a bet: in the forseeable future I think Putin will get overthrown from within, this way or any other. He is done.
After having read you comment about your prediction on Putins future I read this on twitter

"Moscow. Police beat a female protestor after she refuses to submit her phone for a search of anti-war content Sunday. Russia has reached totalitarian levels of repression, unseen in over 40 years. A large step backwards"

Russia is going down the drain-Hope there's some strong person who can remove Putin.

Markus
__________________

My little lovely female cat
mapuc is offline  
Old 03-13-22, 05:55 PM   #2175
Buddahaid
Shark above Space Chicken
 
Buddahaid's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 8,574
Downloads: 160
Uploads: 0


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by mapuc View Post
NATO help Ukraine with weapon and intel

What could prevent China to do the same for Russia help them with weapon.

Markus
China will just sit aside and let Russia and the west sort themselves out while taking notes.
__________________
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img924/4962/oeBHq3.jpg
"However vast the darkness, we must provide our own light."
Stanley Kubrick

"Tomorrow belongs to those who can hear it coming."
David Bowie
Buddahaid is offline  
Closed Thread


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:10 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © 1995- 2024 Subsim®
"Subsim" is a registered trademark, all rights reserved.