Full realism Campaign Series using the GWX OneAlex Edition - Page 4

Hooston · 05-04-23, 03:32 AM

Very funny. Long lecture about the stupidity of gun actions, followed by repeated stupidity. I like it. The "stay out of gun arc" trick only works on stopped ships.
What to do about the mines? The east coast barrier was to some extent a bluff and the thin spread of mines in GWX is probably fairly accurate. I don't know if the mines will affect you on the surface in the game, the fields laid had varying purposes as the war progressed, see https://naval-history.net/xGM-Ops-Minelaying.htm
The only work around I know is to use the periscope underwater, but this is NOT realistic. IRL you cannot see very far underwater in the North Sea.

Tonci87 · 05-10-23, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Hooston

Very funny. Long lecture about the stupidity of gun actions, followed by repeated stupidity. I like it. The "stay out of gun arc" trick only works on stopped ships.
What to do about the mines? The east coast barrier was to some extent a bluff and the thin spread of mines in GWX is probably fairly accurate. I don't know if the mines will affect you on the surface in the game, the fields laid had varying purposes as the war progressed, see https://naval-history.net/xGM-Ops-Minelaying.htm
The only work around I know is to use the periscope underwater, but this is NOT realistic. IRL you cannot see very far underwater in the North Sea.

I don´t think that this particular minefield will affect me while I´m on the surface, but I can´t know if there are areas where the mines are positioned closer to the surface.

Episode 24
There is not much one can do when the other side outguns you

Tonci87 · 05-17-23, 11:11 AM

Episode 25
We encounter an unusual ship

Tonci87 · 05-24-23, 12:46 PM

Episode 26
A ship appears out of the fog....

lederhosen · 05-25-23, 01:01 AM

wow, still going strong

Tonci87 · 05-25-23, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by lederhosen

wow, still going strong

I´m doing my best

Tonci87 · 05-31-23, 12:12 PM

Episode 27
We return home

Mister_M · 06-01-23, 01:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Tonci87

Episode 27
We return home

21:18 : Genius!

By the way, what is this march music? It's very appropriate for a successfull return at port.

Tonci87 · 06-10-23, 10:24 AM

Episode 28
We start a new patrol and I show how to plot an attack

lederhosen · 06-11-23, 03:00 AM

that was cool. Can't win everytime.

Hooston · 06-11-23, 03:22 AM

Whilst running a plot might be realistic, is perfect plotting compatible with full realism? It all seems to assume that your boat can maintain a perfectly accurate heading and speed and plot its own position perfectly. It all works perfectly in the game...

It's also fortunate that your targets only zig zag AFTER you have attacked them.

Enjoying the different styles of you and Wolfpack345. I think you have the edge at the moment because of your greater nerd coefficient!

Tonci87 · 06-11-23, 05:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Hooston

Whilst running a plot might be realistic, is perfect plotting compatible with full realism? It all seems to assume that your boat can maintain a perfectly accurate heading and speed and plot its own position perfectly. It all works perfectly in the game...

It's also fortunate that your targets only zig zag AFTER you have attacked them.

Enjoying the different styles of you and Wolfpack345. I think you have the edge at the moment because of your greater nerd coefficient!

Nerd coefficient, good one LOL

You are of course right in that this method works best in good conditions.
It will not work if the ships vary their course or speed, and I imagine it would work less well in rough weather (although I would expect a helmsman to be able to stay on course if the boat is submerged and a navigator to make an accurate plot).
I had used this method in SH5 TWOS with the real navigation mod, and it still worked, it just required me to plot my own position as well.

In the next episode I will be attacking another ship with the same method (I will do the plotting off camera though), and either because of errors in my measurements when the ship was still at a steep AOB, or because of the ship changing its speed over time I had measurements from 5,5kn to 8kn.
A significant spread.
In such circumstances I advise to use the value measured with the last observations in context with the average speed measured so far.

That is likely to give a good result.

Tonci87 · 06-14-23, 03:14 PM

Episode 29
A terrifyingly quick end

Tonci87 · 06-21-23, 11:21 AM

Episode 30
Things don´t work out the way I wanted them to

Tonci87 · 06-28-23, 11:06 AM

Episode 31
Grey skies create a fitting scene for the unfolding tragedy

05-04-23, 03:32 AM	#46
Hooston Planesman Join Date: Jun 2020 Posts: 199 Downloads: 15 Uploads: 0	Very funny. Long lecture about the stupidity of gun actions, followed by repeated stupidity. I like it. The "stay out of gun arc" trick only works on stopped ships. What to do about the mines? The east coast barrier was to some extent a bluff and the thin spread of mines in GWX is probably fairly accurate. I don't know if the mines will affect you on the surface in the game, the fields laid had varying purposes as the war progressed, see https://naval-history.net/xGM-Ops-Minelaying.htm The only work around I know is to use the periscope underwater, but this is NOT realistic. IRL you cannot see very far underwater in the North Sea. Last edited by Hooston; 05-04-23 at 03:57 AM.

05-17-23, 11:11 AM	#48
Tonci87 Samurai Navy Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 562 Downloads: 116 Uploads: 0	Episode 25 We encounter an unusual ship __________________ How to use the RAOBF to measure speed, range and AOB, and then use the Attack Disc to set up a perfect 90° attack. Your diveplane controllers are killing you! Das Brot https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Irs1NOMJVfg

05-24-23, 12:46 PM	#49
Tonci87 Samurai Navy Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 562 Downloads: 116 Uploads: 0	Episode 26 A ship appears out of the fog.... __________________ How to use the RAOBF to measure speed, range and AOB, and then use the Attack Disc to set up a perfect 90° attack. Your diveplane controllers are killing you! Das Brot https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Irs1NOMJVfg

05-25-23, 01:01 AM	#50
lederhosen Planesman Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Trier, Germany Posts: 182 Downloads: 423 Uploads: 0	wow, still going strong __________________

05-31-23, 12:12 PM	#52
Tonci87 Samurai Navy Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 562 Downloads: 116 Uploads: 0	Episode 27 We return home __________________ How to use the RAOBF to measure speed, range and AOB, and then use the Attack Disc to set up a perfect 90° attack. Your diveplane controllers are killing you! Das Brot https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Irs1NOMJVfg

06-10-23, 10:24 AM	#54
Tonci87 Samurai Navy Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 562 Downloads: 116 Uploads: 0	Episode 28 We start a new patrol and I show how to plot an attack __________________ How to use the RAOBF to measure speed, range and AOB, and then use the Attack Disc to set up a perfect 90° attack. Your diveplane controllers are killing you! Das Brot https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Irs1NOMJVfg

06-11-23, 03:00 AM	#55
lederhosen Planesman Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Trier, Germany Posts: 182 Downloads: 423 Uploads: 0	that was cool. Can't win everytime. __________________

06-11-23, 03:22 AM	#56
Hooston Planesman Join Date: Jun 2020 Posts: 199 Downloads: 15 Uploads: 0	Nice in theory Whilst running a plot might be realistic, is perfect plotting compatible with full realism? It all seems to assume that your boat can maintain a perfectly accurate heading and speed and plot its own position perfectly. It all works perfectly in the game... It's also fortunate that your targets only zig zag AFTER you have attacked them. Enjoying the different styles of you and Wolfpack345. I think you have the edge at the moment because of your greater nerd coefficient!

06-14-23, 03:14 PM	#58
Tonci87 Samurai Navy Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 562 Downloads: 116 Uploads: 0	Episode 29 A terrifyingly quick end __________________ How to use the RAOBF to measure speed, range and AOB, and then use the Attack Disc to set up a perfect 90° attack. Your diveplane controllers are killing you! Das Brot https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Irs1NOMJVfg

06-21-23, 11:21 AM	#59
Tonci87 Samurai Navy Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 562 Downloads: 116 Uploads: 0	Episode 30 Things don´t work out the way I wanted them to __________________ How to use the RAOBF to measure speed, range and AOB, and then use the Attack Disc to set up a perfect 90° attack. Your diveplane controllers are killing you! Das Brot https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Irs1NOMJVfg

06-28-23, 11:06 AM	#60
Tonci87 Samurai Navy Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 562 Downloads: 116 Uploads: 0	Episode 31 Grey skies create a fitting scene for the unfolding tragedy __________________ How to use the RAOBF to measure speed, range and AOB, and then use the Attack Disc to set up a perfect 90° attack. Your diveplane controllers are killing you! Das Brot https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Irs1NOMJVfg