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11-14-22, 11:03 AM | #8206 | |
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If this is the logic Russia chooses to use, then China, Iran and North Korea are party to this conflict as well. Russia can't have it both ways. Self determination, liberty and freedom are the cornerstones of any Democracy. It is for these ideals that the Ukrainians have lived, fought, died and yearn for. A Subsim member had suggested that Russia be removed as a permanent member of the U.N Security Council. I agree with this assessment. I believe the first step is labeling Russia a terrorist state. To that end, I believe that China should be considered as such as well. In the end, I think the Ukraine will win it's freedom and will have earned it. Unfortunately, if Russia does lose and I believe they will, Russia will pursue a " scorched Earth " policy on leaving the Ukraine. The rebuilding process will take years. For the lives lost, they can never be recovered. That's the real tragedy. Last edited by Commander Wallace; 11-14-22 at 11:15 AM. |
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11-14-22, 11:36 AM | #8207 |
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11-14-22, 11:56 AM | #8208 | |
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As Ukraine Retakes Kherson, U.S. Looks to Diplomacy Before Winter Slows Momentum
American arms are flowing, but officials in Washington question how much territory either side can win https://www.wsj.com/articles/as-ukra...um-11668345883 Quote:
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11-14-22, 12:14 PM | #8209 |
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European Union has officially launched training mission for 15,000 Ukrainian soldiers
The European Union has officially launched a training mission for Ukrainian fighters. As part of the mission, up to 15,000 military personnel will be trained. This was reported by Censor.NET with reference to the Twitter of the Presidency of the Czech Republic in the Council of the European Union. "The European Council launched the EU military assistance mission EUMAM to support Ukraine in the ongoing war with Russia and to train up to 15,000 members of the Ukrainian Armed Forces," it said. It is noted that the decision enters into force from the time of publication in the official journal of the EU. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3380471 Russia wants to take break to continue war with new strength. Ukraine will not make concessions regarding Crimea, - Kuleba on alleged readiness of Russian Federation for negotiations Kyiv does not even theoretically consider any concessions regarding the Crimea issue. The head of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Ukraine, Dmytro Kuleba, wrote about this on Facebook, Censor.NET informs. "I will dot the "ands" regarding media and sometimes behind-the-scenes conversations about pressure on Ukraine regarding negotiations, how far Ukraine can go in liberating its territories and what will happen next, etc.: 1. Listen to President Zelensky: Russia must withdraw its occupation troops from the territory of Ukraine within internationally recognized borders; 2. Ukraine does not give up diplomacy. But the Kremlin's current statements about its alleged readiness for negotiations are just a smokescreen. Russia is playing constructive, but in fact wants to take a break to recover and later continue the war with new strength. We will not go for it and urge our partners not to play along with Moscow; 3. Kyiv does not even theoretically consider any concessions regarding the Crimea issue. Neither for us nor for international law, there is no difference between Kherson and Sevastopol. All this - Ukraine; 4. Talks that Ukraine will tolerate or give in to any provocations if they are against our interests. In general, I advise everyone to leave this prehistoric perception of Ukraine as someone who is pressured and forced. Today, Ukraine is pressing and forcing. We are creating a new history together with those in the world who stand side by side with us. 5. As for those in the world who talk behind the scenes about not believing in the victory of Ukraine and express endless doubts, today I spoke at the EU Council of Ministers and told a story," Kuleba writes. According to him, it is impossible to win if you do not believe. "I thank everyone who believes in the victory of Ukraine. You will not regret taking such a position. If we remain united and principled in these difficult times, we will also celebrate the restoration of peace and security in Europe. And the more support, the more weapons we will receive, the sooner this day will come," added Kuleba. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3380474
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11-14-22, 12:24 PM | #8210 |
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USA will not participate in negotiations on Ukraine without Ukraine, - Biden
US President Joe Biden emphasized that the United States will not be involved in any peace talks in Ukraine without Ukraine. This is reported by Censor.NET with reference to Interfax-Ukraine. The American leader said that the liberation of Kherson is an important victory for Ukraine. "And I can only applaud the bravery, determination and capabilities of the Ukrainian people, the Ukrainian military. They are simply amazing! I think it's hard to say now what exactly that means. But I was very clear - we will continue to provide opportunities for Ukraine, the Ukrainian people to defend ourselves. And we have no intention of participating in any negotiations. Nothing about Ukraine without Ukraine. This is a decision that Ukraine should make," the US president said. At the same time, Biden suggested that in the near future "we will see things slow down through the winter months in terms of the ability to easily move around the country." "I think it remains to be seen what the outcome will be, except that I am sure that Russia will not occupy Ukraine as they originally planned," he emphasized. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3380479 Canada will provide another $400 million in military aid to Ukraine Canada announced the allocation of a new package of military aid to Ukraine worth 500 million Canadian dollars (about 400 million US dollars). This was announced in the office of Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, Censor.NET reports with reference to Ukrinform. "Canada will provide Ukraine with an additional $500 million in military aid to support the Ukrainian Armed Forces in defending the country from Russia's brutal and unjustified invasion," the message reads. The office of the head of the Canadian government notes that these funds will be used for the purchase of military, intelligence and communication equipment, as well as fuel and medicine. "While Russia continues its brutal and unjustified invasion of Ukraine, Canada will stand side by side with the Ukrainian people and allies in defense of our shared values of peace, democracy and human rights," Trudeau stressed. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3380485 EU has strengthened sanctions against Iran The EU Council introduced new sanctions against Iran due to human rights violations. This is reported by Censor.NET with reference to the website of the European Council. "The EU Council today added 29 individuals and three institutions to the list of entities subject to restrictive measures in the context of existing sanctions against Iran for human rights violations. This is done in view of their role in the Death of Masha Amini and the violence in relation to the recent demonstrations in Iran," the report said. The list of restrictions includes law enforcement officials who were involved in the arbitrary arrest of Masha Amini, local law enforcement officials, the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps, and members of the military leadership that oversaw the brutal crackdown on peaceful protests in Iran. Sanctions have also been introduced against the heads of Iran's state television, which disseminated the "confessions" of protest participants, as well as the head of Iran's so-called cyber police, who was involved in arbitrary arrests of people for criticizing the Iranian regime in online media. Sanctions include the freezing of financial assets and a ban on travel to the EU. EU citizens and companies are prohibited from providing any financial resources to individuals and institutions included in the sanctioned list. The sanctions regime also prohibits the export to Iran of any equipment that could be used for internal repression or control of telecommunications space. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3380506
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11-14-22, 01:26 PM | #8211 |
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A Strategic Strip Of Sand. Rumors Of Ukrainian Raids. As Russian Forces Retreat, Keep An Eye On The Kinburn Spit.
The Kinburn Spit is a narrow finger of sand and scrub, barely three miles long, that juts from the wider Kinburn Peninsula into the Black Sea at the mouth of the Dnipro River south of Kherson. It and the adjacent peninsula also are the last parts of Ukraine’s Mykolaiv Oblast that remain under Russian occupation. Don’t expect that to last. The Kremlin on Wednesday ordered its battered forces on the right bank of the Dnipro to retreat to the river’s opposite bank. The order came six months after Ukrainian brigades, re-armed with European howitzers and American rocket-launchers, began bombarding Russian supply lines in the south—and two months after those same brigades launched a counteroffensive aimed at liberating Mykolaiv and Kherson Oblasts. The Ukrainians have the Kinburn Spit in their sights. They’ve got the troops, the equipment … and a plan. Russian troops seized the Kinburn Spit in mid-June as Russian advances in the south—having already overwhelmed Kherson city—ran into stiff resistance a few miles south of Mykolaiv city. Capturing the spit would turn out to be one of the Russian army’s last victories in the south. The four-month Ukrainian counterlogistics campaign that preceded Ukraine’s southern counteroffensive already was underway. Kinburn matters. Russian control of the sandy strip “will allow them to exert further control of the Black Sea coast,” the Institute for the Study of War in Washington, D.C. explained in June. For the Ukrainians, Kinburn is a back door—a way to get forces onto the left bank of the Dnipro without crossing the river, likely while under fire. As far back as April, U.K. intelligence agents were advising their government to support Ukrainian forces in any future attempt to “conduct beach reconnaissance” on the Kinburn Spit. The recon could “Identify good landing locations for a larger assault force for a future counterattack,” the agents explained in a presentation that later leaked to the press. It’s possible Ukrainian special operations forces riding in rigid-hull inflatable boats began reconnoitering the spit as early as September. In October, video circulated online reportedly depicting the Ukrainian navy’s last remaining big ship, the 240-foot amphibious vessel Yuri Olefirenko, apparently firing rockets at Russian forces on or near the spit. The Ukrainian military’s southern command on Saturday announced its intention to liberate Kinburn. Within a day, there were videos online possibly depicting Ukrainian commandos riding toward the spit in their small boats. If and when the Ukrainians land in force on Kinburn, the odds should favor them. “With the recent advances in Kherson, this is well within massed artillery range,” explained Mike Martin, a fellow at the Department of War Studies at King's College in London. And to be clear, he means Ukrainian artillery. “The Russians are finding it very hard to hold” in Kherson and Mykolaiv, Martin added. The Kilburn Spit could be the next piece of Ukraine they give up. https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidax...h=582cc973304d |
11-14-22, 03:23 PM | #8212 |
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"There was a Moscow convict by the name of Evgeny Nuzhin. He was in jail for a murder. He had served 24 years of what was apparently a 28 year sentence when he was recruited by Wagner to go to Ukraine.
He was detailed to collect bodies- his group was sent to the front lines and hid in trenches by day and crawled out to collect bodies by night. The first day there were 16 of them. The second day there were 9. He decided to bug out. He surrendered, and he was interviewed and a video was posted. He wanted to join the Moscow free legion in the AFU, but the AFU didn't want him and exchanged him back to Moscow . The Muscovites handed him back to Wagner. A few days ago they posted a video of them killing him by bashing his head in with a sledgehammer. I will not post the link
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11-14-22, 03:28 PM | #8213 |
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The mayor of Oleshky hinted that the Armed Forces of Ukraine returned Oleshky under the control of Ukrainian Armed Forces.
The information is preliminary, but if it is true, it means that the Armed Forces have already crossed the Dnipro.
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11-14-22, 03:30 PM | #8214 |
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I only wait for Zelensky announcing that the Ukraine has launched its offensive to take Teheran.
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11-14-22, 04:00 PM | #8215 |
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Chatter about Ukrainian amphibious landings in Kinburn Peninsula, taking the town of Herois'ke, artillery strike on Russian base in Hornostaivka, rumors of Ukrainian troops in Oleshky, explosions reported in Hola Prystan'... No operational pause after Kherson, it seems. https://twitter.com/Euan_MacDonald/s...49051101143043
Herois'ke Oleshky Hornostaivka Hola Prystan "There is no operational pause we don't give them any rest" https://twitter.com/WarMonitor3/stat...59590728876032 |
11-14-22, 04:16 PM | #8216 |
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"There is no operational pause we don't give them any rest"
Which is the correct way to go on offensive...However the speed of such an offensive should not be faster than their logistic can keep up or they will have same situation as they had around Kharkiv-Here the speed of the offensive was so high that the UA had to hit the brake because their logistic was far behind-Which gave Russia time to reorganise their defence. Which is why I see Russia take and lose ground in the Donetsk area. Markus
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11-14-22, 04:22 PM | #8217 |
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Russians plan to “evacuate” entire civilian population of three settlements of Ukraine’s Luhansk Oblast – General Staff of Ukraine forces
The Russian occupiers plan to “evacuate” the entire civilian population from the settlements of Kreminna, Sievierodonetsk and Rubizhne in Ukraine’s Luhansk Oblast deep into the temporarily occupied territories due to the humanitarian situation in the Oblast, General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine reports. The General Staff also reports that in Mariupol, Donetsk Oblast, the Russian occupation authorities are expanding the coverage area of propaganda sources. So, according to available information, the occupiers are launching the “Mariupol-24” TV channel. Round-the-clock broadcasting is planned to be introduced within a month. https://euromaidanpress.com/2022/11/...rces/?swcfpc=1 Next retreat? |
11-14-22, 04:28 PM | #8218 | |
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11-14-22, 04:33 PM | #8219 | |
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11-14-22, 04:41 PM | #8220 | |
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Permission was given. Can have remembered wrong Markus
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