[WIP] Almagest. Strict Import for SH5.

Mister_M · 01-18-22, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by gap

Can you tell me the number of f and vt lines in the obj files you are processing?

Hull1.obj :
2018 f
868 vt

Hull1-uv2.obj :
2018 f
2729 vt

It already seems problematic...

[QUOTE=Jeff-Groves;2788565]Well that was easy.
I compared the main obj and the AO obj in 010.
Your vertices do not match between the Main Hull and AO Hull.

Ah ! You replied while I was writting this...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff-Groves

So basically S3D IS importing garbage you created.

Sorry, you mean : garbage that Wings3D created...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff-Groves

That is the flaw AND the opening in S3D that I am working to fix!

You are trying to fix garbage created by Wings3D when exporting ?

Jeff-Groves · 01-18-22, 02:23 PM

Well. In the dat file format you CAN HAVE different counts on that information!
But the VERTS MUST BE EXACTLY THE SAME!

I'd suspect Wings re-ordered the Verts placement in the exported obj file thus faces and textures are screwed.

And You are the one that used Wings. It didn't to it by itself!
LOL!

Mister_M · 01-18-22, 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff-Groves

Well. In the dat file format you CAN HAVE different counts on that information!
But the VERTS MUST BE EXACTLY THE SAME!

I'd suspect Wings re-ordered the Verts placement in the exported obj file thus faces and textures are screwed.

And You are the one that used Wings. It didn't to it by itself!
LOL!

I don't create garbage by myself...

Jeff-Groves · 01-18-22, 02:37 PM

Just playing with you Mate.

It is strange to many that somethings do not work as expected with programs like S3D or TDW's program for SH5.

Both missed things and based their codes on false assumptions.
Sometimes that was a Ego thing on their parts to NOT listen to suggestions.
Sometimes it was a lack of understanding EXACTLY how the import target is constructed!

S3D used ALOT of information from the Grey Wolves in it's construction.
TDW's program aslo credits a Grey Wolf as soon as you open it!
(Guess WHO privateer is!)

Mister_M · 01-18-22, 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff-Groves

Just playing with you Mate.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff-Groves

Guess WHO privateer is!

YOU

Jeff-Groves · 01-18-22, 03:06 PM

I may be the LAST Wizard left here at SubSim.

I look at the files in a way that others do not.
With nothing but 010 Hex editor? I opened and changed the Bunker so one can walk all around!

I'm probably the ONLY one left active that can change things and create a better future for other Modders.
I am in debt to the ones that taught me.

01-18-22, 02:23 PM	#2
Jeff-Groves Village Idiot Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 5,395 Downloads: 131 Uploads: 0	Well. In the dat file format you CAN HAVE different counts on that information! But the VERTS MUST BE EXACTLY THE SAME! I'd suspect Wings re-ordered the Verts placement in the exported obj file thus faces and textures are screwed. And You are the one that used Wings. It didn't to it by itself! LOL!

01-18-22, 02:37 PM	#4
Jeff-Groves Village Idiot Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 5,395 Downloads: 131 Uploads: 0	Just playing with you Mate. It is strange to many that somethings do not work as expected with programs like S3D or TDW's program for SH5. Both missed things and based their codes on false assumptions. Sometimes that was a Ego thing on their parts to NOT listen to suggestions. Sometimes it was a lack of understanding EXACTLY how the import target is constructed! S3D used ALOT of information from the Grey Wolves in it's construction. TDW's program aslo credits a Grey Wolf as soon as you open it! (Guess WHO privateer is!)

01-18-22, 03:06 PM	#6
Jeff-Groves Village Idiot Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 5,395 Downloads: 131 Uploads: 0	I may be the LAST Wizard left here at SubSim. I look at the files in a way that others do not. With nothing but 010 Hex editor? I opened and changed the Bunker so one can walk all around! I'm probably the ONLY one left active that can change things and create a better future for other Modders. I am in debt to the ones that taught me.